Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[The Guard]

Exclusive: No, ‘X-Men: Dark Phoenix’ Is Not Undergoing Three Months of Reshoots

http://collider.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-reshoots-explained


Contrary to reports, X-Men: Dark Phoenix is not going back in for an extensive round of reshoots, we at Collider can confirm. Earlier this year, the X-Men sequel was pulled off of its November 2018 release date and pushed to February 2019. After test screenings, it was determined the film needed some additional photography (as is routine when it comes to studio blockbusters), but owing to the busy schedules of the A-list cast, the production couldn’t assemble everyone in time to meet the November release date, so the date was pushed.

Now that the additional photography on Dark Phoenix is poised to take place later this year, Montreal outlet LaPresse reported that the film would be undergoing “three months” of photography, which would suggest extensive changes to longtime X-Men writer/producer Simon Kinberg’s directorial debut. Sources close to the production of Dark Phoenix tell Collider that this report is erroneous. The film is indeed going back for additional photography in Montreal, but it’s only scheduled to last two and a half weeks. That’s a pretty standard amount of time for a major blockbuster, and is on par with the time spent on additional photography for Marvel Studios movies like Thor: Ragnarok and Black Panther.


Our sources tell us that the additional photography will involve some additional action in the film’s third act, a couple of new scenes, and adding some shots for existing scenes. So no, contrary to rumors, this is not a major overhaul. Kinberg wrote and directed Dark Phoenix, which serves as a follow-up to X-Men: Apocalypse but takes place a decade later in the 1990s. The story is under wraps aside from the obvious fact that it’s drawing from the iconic Dark Phoenix comics arc, which will find Sophie Turner’s Jean Grey taking center stage and Jessica Chastain playing a new key role.

It’s unclear which actors, exactly, are involved in the additional photography, but both Chastain and James McAvoy are currently in the midst of shooting IT Chapter Two and Turner only recently wrapped the final season of Game of Thrones, so those three actors playing major characters have been/are tied up for quite some time.

The necessary cast members will reassemble soon in Montreal for a couple weeks of additional photography, but no, they’re not reshooting the entire film.

Uh oh, trolls aren't gonna like this...

 

[Dark Raven]

Here

https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney...99?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/GMLjdQIno3

Ok thanks.

 

[Drexelhand]

Now Collider should clarify why La Presse reported that the reshoots jumped from 2 weeks to 3 months. And that they're moving from MELS studio to MTL Grandé studios.

That would be up to La Presse to clarify, I would assume, since they're the ones who put out the report, true or erroneous or otherwise.

 

[Drexelhand]

how convenient that Collider got a reply from their sources this fast, when the 3 months of rehoots was basically posted one hour ago at best.

Did their source call them the second after seeing the JamesMcavoy fanaccount tweet or what?

I see a lot of "studio style" on their article. Interesting coincidence or personal interests of Collider.

What are you a conspiracy theorist?

 

[EnDz0n3]

That would be up to La Presse to clarify, I would assume, since they're the ones who put out the report, true or erroneous or otherwise.

But nothing’s to stop Collider from checking with their sources to see which parts of the La Presse article are erroneous, and then report it.

The La Presse article also included quotes from the CEO of Quebec Film and Television Bureau, so is he lying?

 

[Drexelhand]

But nothing’s to stop Collider from checking with their sources to see which parts of the La Presse article are erroneous, and then report it.

The La Presse article also included quotes from the CEO of Quebec Film and Television Bureau, so is he lying?

They already did the first half of what you've said, and as for the second half, that is again up to La Presse if they misrepresented that dude's words.

 

[SumT]

What are you a conspiracy theorist?

no, Im just talking the obvious. This was too fast from Collider, its not like their source told them the info a day after, a more natural time gap.

And its been clear since some years ago that Collider has a good relationship with Fox, so to me they are clearly playing nice with Fox. so I cant trust them 100% on this one. plain and simple.

on their article they are acting like all is fine and are reshoots as usual, even naming some Marvel studios films. Please lol. This has nothing to do with how Marvel Studios work. Fox is just in a bad situation with both XMen and New mutants having issues, and both delayed. Thats the reality here, as hard as some reporters/fans try to hide/twist.

we arent as naive. are we?

 

[EnDz0n3]

They already did the first half of what you've said, and as for the second half, that is again up to La Presse if they misrepresented that dude's words.

The publising of the Collider article was clearly in response to the erroneous info from the La Presse article and to correct it.

It did not clear up ALL the issues.

 

[GuestStar2004]

we arent as naive. are we?

Well its easy to choose what we want to be naive about and what we don't.

if you actually heard something you wanted to hear you wouldn't think you was naive to believe it.

Uh oh, trolls aren't gonna like this...

This is why we can't have nice things.

Joking aside, if that report isn't true and its 3 months of reshoots then we would still find out over time anyway when after 2 and a half weeks they are still filming. so its probably not worth lying about really.

 

[The Infernal]

I think the wait for a trailer just got that little bit longer.

 

[X-Maniac]

But there has been a trailer along with positive reaction. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean there isn't one.

Well, we only have your word for that.

Their marketing probably won't start until 5 months from release.....just like their last x-men film.

Good. Then we'll have something to really get our teeth into it. I hope you fasten your seatbelt, it's gonna be bumpy ride....

In regard to reshoots, according to the article this info is based on, it's quite clear reshoots are for the "last part" of the film. Not half, not three quarters. No film reshoot take three months to shoot something like that. Even movies that have had 50%-80% re-shot don't take that long in reshoots. This is obviously based on scheduling. It was already revealed a month or so ago that Jessica Chastain and James McAvoy won't be available to shoot their scenes until some time in October after they wrap shooting on It Chapter 2. The actual reshoot scenes themselves are smaller. But oh.....I guess that's silly. Yes, let us ignore all those facts and slip into a state of delirium and stupidity, right X-Maniac? Silly me.....

Speculation and rumour thrive in a vacuum of no officially stated information at all.

At this point, nothing is very clear.

Fans online may well go overboard with assumptions, but then we have your 'nothing new to see here' posts making out that everything is rosy.

Of course, the studio is going to do everything it can to make out it's all going amazingly well and without a hitch. But right in the midst of a Disney takeover that will likely bring this X-Men series to a halt, there might be a lot more going on than we know.

Apparently it wasn't suppose to be the final film at the time it was shot, but rather part of a new trilogy.

So does this mean there's a chance Storm might utter a line of dialogue then, without these two further movies to use as excuses for when she might be developed? LOL

 

[fobi]

I was curious to know how they would know what exactly they were shooting and why they would report that the third act was being redone. Aside from the length of the production is that information they would be privy too?

Also, I thought Collider was reputable, what's the issue here?

 

[Charzhin0]

I sense another release date push - hope Im wrong.

 

[Detective Conan]

https://***********/_ChristopherM/status/1027662810833141760


hmm.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

https://***********/_ChristopherM/status/1027662810833141760


hmm.

Chris M is a poor person. He is just a MCU fan with a fan-page. It's ridiculous to quote him

 

[Detective Conan]

His point still stands though. Colider has been proven wrong before in their first ‘debunking’ of that site which does make me suspicious about what’s really going on behind the scenes. I don’t really care either way but I do find it interesting.

 

[SumT]

https://***********/_ChristopherM/status/1027662810833141760


hmm.

hahahahahahaha. he nailed it.

seems then like this is the second time that Collider has something against Montreal press or something lol.

I guess some trusty sites/reporters also get pissed when they miss the hot scoop of the month

this just added more weight to my first reaction from Colliders quick article.

 

[fobi]

That same guy has also been pretty adamant about the film not being cancelled or released via some type of streaming service. Do you believe him on that too?

 

[Jekecy]

What are you a conspiracy theorist?

Wouldn’t be the first time a studio tried to curb concern. Same precise thing happened on Justice League, which we now know was almost completely redone through the reshoots.

Insiders who were in bed with the studios had counter-reports minimizing the word of vast reworking. Even the stars themselves tried to downplay the situation through their interviews.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

This movie better be on par with Avengers 1! From everything I have read whether it’s true or not I’m hoping for a movie that will let the X-Men cut up! We still haven’t seen the team go all out with their powers, DOFP came close but I wanted to see Rogue, Gambit, etc basically the team from the 90s I want to see the comics brought to life! I know the X-Men can deliver and I think is long time fans deserve that blockbuster action with a compelling story. I want Phoenix Vs Storm up in the air, Cyclops letting those optic blast year through the aliens (if that stuff about them invading DC is true) and I wouldn’t mind Jean Vs Xavier, but I want too see Scott and Jean’s relationship struggle but the heart of this story is that this family is hurting for their loved one. All I’m saying is if this the end to the Fox franchise end it on a bang and let the naysayers eat crow! I have been waiting to long to see this particular story done Justice.

 

[Cktopl33]

As I have said so many times previously, a three month schedule span.....does NOT equate three months of continuous shooting. The shooting period is shorter and could be spread out. Reshoots have always operated like this. They are based on availability. And again, 2 actors won't be available until October. Other actors are probably only available now and might not be then, likely starting the shooting period this month. So the Collider article doesn't really dismiss Montreal press or vise versa. Delirium delirium everywhere.....

 

[Cktopl33]

Wasn't your guess of 2 weeks based on The Hollywood Reporter article that quoted a $10 Million cost? No where in that article quoted 2 weeks or even just weeks (as opposed to what others suspected as months of reshoot, based on the delay of release from November to February).

Unless you have a source at the studio, that was your only reason for saying these wouldn't be "major" reshoots. IIRC, Chastain's and McAvoy's delayed reshoot schedules weren't announced by the time that article was posted.

The title of that THR article was "'X-Men: Dark Phoenix' to Get Major Reshoots as Simon Kinberg Tweaks Script."

Here's your rebuttal to the above dated July 5th:

Now we have actual reports that the planned 2 weeks of filming has jumped to 3 months. Surely that $10Mil price tag is no longer the most up-to-date.

So now more than $10Mil and two months or longer period (in this case three months) is still not major?

Still nothing to see here huh?

None of that dismisses what I said previously. The fact that Chastain's and McAvoy's schedules delayed their reshoot schedules validate the reason for an additional two month period schedule. They won't be available until then. That doesn't mean shooting time has increased to extensive additional filming. Chastain & McAvoy's actual filming period may only amount to a few days. If those two actors weren't still filming another movie, then it would be a different story. So no....that doesn't indicate major or extensive reshoots from what was planned. Simply changes in scheduling.

 

[henzINNIT]

Worth noting that scheduling was an issue for DOFP too and that film's reshoots were 2 weeks only.


Is Collider often right on these matters? I only know of the obnoxious youtube show. They were clearly wrong at least once before.

 

[X-Maniac]

Worth noting that scheduling was an issue for DOFP too and that film's reshoots were 2 weeks only.

Is Collider often right on these matters? I only know of the obnoxious youtube show. They were clearly wrong at least once before.

I doubt Collider knows first hand if the reshoot stuff is true or not, the site is merely reporting what it has been told by its sources.

Those sources could be telling the truth or they could be spin-doctoring and downplaying the extent of the reshoots.

We will know soon enough. Someone will have an eye on the reshoots when they get going, and we will know how long they last.

 

[x-er]

No way, Feige definitely wants new cast for their X-Men

I don't know, I can see them thinking that popular actors who helped start the comic book movie boom like Hugh Jackman could make a smash hit in a crossover of sorts. It would make the crowds go nuts and it would also be a way to honor an original X-Man or two. Who wouldn't pay to watch Hugh Jackman duke it out with Robert Downey Jr?

I'm definitely in between on this issue though; i see the benefits Marvel could reap in either case.