Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[psyonic]

I'm here for the X-Men news and.. hot daddies xD

 

[EnDz0n3]

So since the Danger Room was used in Kinberg's X3, are people weary of another Kinberg-written Danger Room sequence in Dark Phoenix?

What other X3 sequences are in danger of being repeats for DPh?

Who will give the eulogy? Will Storm talk about her hero?

(I know you said you're not arguing for that but many other people are)

Hopefully you won't forget this the next time this subject is broached. But anyways, I don't know anyone (much less "many other people") that wants a Cyclops who's well into his 30s as their introduction in the MCU.

 

[Web-Head]

Taron Egerton is 29. Does that mean he'll be too old for MCU Cyclops?

 

[x-er]

I’m 40 and I’ve damn well got a few more “arcs” left in me.

that's what all the 40 year olds i've met say
you only get one life

 

[The Infernal]

Will be interesting to see how the marketing for this film goes now post deal. If it's true that there a lot of temps already handling marketing then that would explain some of the past foul ups and maybe set the tone going ahead too.

 

[Cktopl33]

According to THR today:

But before it reboots the X-Men, Disney is inheriting two projects from Fox. Dark Phoenix (June 7) will be the first X-Men movie marketed by the studio and comes from longtime X-Men producer Simon Kinberg, making his directorial debut.

Though the Marvel projects will be under the purview of Feige, who has worked on Marvel properties since 2000, genre-based special effect-laden extravaganzas will still be made at Fox. In early January, Fox greenlit its last batch of pre-Disney acquisition movies that are now beginning to go into production and will be overseen by Disney brass on some level. Fear Street, based on the R.L. Stine books, began shooting a couple of weeks ago. Free Guy, which stars Reynolds as a man who realizes he's living in a video game movie, has Shawn Levy set to direct and begins shooting next month.

Marvel Studios has not publicly revealed any plans for integrating members of the X-Men and Fantastic Four into its cinematic universe, though Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige is said to have met with several members of the X-Men old guard in recent months.

The X-Men films date back to 2000's X-Men, and there are producer deals that will need to be looked at and either untangled or bought out, say sources. Lauren Shuler Donner, who championed the 2000 film and has been a producer on all Fox's mutant-centric movies, is said to have a deal that calls for her to receive an executive producer credit on any X-Men movie whether or not she is actively involved. Kinberg may have a similar deal.

While Disney's release schedule does contain the highest volume of untitled Marvel movies yet (two in 2020, three in 2021), it remains unclear when an X-Men or Fantastic Four movie could make it onto the calendar. Marvel is expected to shoot Black Widow and The Eternals this year, with kung fu hero Shang-Chi likely to bring up the rear. Also in development are sequels to Black Panther, Doctor Strange and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. Unless Feige has a completed script waiting in his desk drawer, any of the newly arrived heroes are unlikely to hit screens at least until 2021, if not later.

 

[The Infernal]

That doesn't really answer anything, just states the obvious that they are now technically overseen by Marvel. There's no details on what that means or if anything different can be expected going forward. It could still be a bunch of temps waiting for things to fully transition.

 

[Davidstorm]

According to THR today:

interesting article
things are not as simple as some think
there are many things to still be solved and adjusted.

 

[Cktopl33]

Sure, I didn't really expect them to shelve Phoenix at this stage. I just thought it had more to do with my question regarding marketing since you had originally quoted that, but I suppose that must have been a mistake since it's now edited out.

I know. That's what I meant when I said I expect them to make an announcement on the matter soon since people don't quite know how Disney will proceed in overseeing these last films being made from Fox. Will they still be under the Fox banner? Will they be under the Disney logo? Will they merge marketing teams immediately or later? How will the integration proceed?

Because that Marketing executive speaking on the acquisition apparently doesn't know what's going on and there seem to be a lot of uncertainty:

They are being issued mostly vague, Orwellian-lite guidance that outlines dress codes and explains key-card access, but they have been left wanting in terms of business directives. “Nobody has come around and said, ‘This is what’s going on.’ Why can’t they just tell us that there is no place for us? Why can’t they let anyone know?"

Not the best sign about the transition. This should have been ironed out. It remind me of missed targets in Merger/acquisitions:

Companies fail to define clearly and succinctly the deal's primary sources of value and its key risks, so they don't set clear priorities for integration. Some acquirers seem to expect the target company's people to integrate themselves. Others do have an integration program office, but they don't get it up and running until the deal closes. Still others mismanage the transition to line management when the integration is supposedly complete, or fail to embed the synergy targets in the business unit's budget. All these difficulties are likely to lead to missed targets.

Loss of key people: Many companies wait too long to put new organizational structures and leadership in place; in the meantime, talented executives leave for greener pastures. Companies also may fail to address cultural matters—the "soft" issues that often determine how people feel about the new environment. Again, talented people drift away.

 

[Iceman]

How I wish we could had a silver haired Fassbender for this movie. Wonder if it even crossed Kinberg's head or Fassy isn't into that... anyway... missed opportunity,

That would have been a nice touch in his last appearance.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Beyond a couple of bits of information which could be purely speculative in itself. That article seems like a speculative extension of bits and pieces thats been mentioned in various articles.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Some Kinberg quotes from EW:

“I approached the movie like it was the culmination in some ways,” says Kinberg, who wrote and directed Dark Phoenix. “Not that there couldn’t be other movies, but I did approach the movie as if, like, if you spent 20 years of living with this family, this is the movie where you see the family truly tested, fall apart, and hopefully come back together. There was something about that sense of closure for the family, that sense of test, that sense of loss. It felt like not this is the end necessarily, but this is it for them.”

This is it for them. Kinda fitting.

 

[GuestStar2004]

That actually could be taken in several different contexts.

But then Bryan said the same thing about Apocalypse.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

This franchise just has a stench on it. Looking forward to it ending so we can get MCU X-Men.

 

[Matt.S99]

Did a couple pages here just disappear? I made a post earlier replying to JP and it’s gone

 

[GuestStar2004]

Yeah alot of posts got deleted for some reason.

 

[Matt.S99]

Weird, anyway I’ll just repost what I posted:
While I’m actually looking forward to DP and hoping for the best, I totally understand peoples feelings here. Logan should have been the last film. It was a perfect love letter to the franchise.

This series means a lot to me as well. I loved the animated series, but the films are what I think really kick started my love for the X-men. That’s around the time I started to get into the comics (with the Morrison series being the one I remember most, so that’s why I love it)

I have so many fond memories surrounding the series. From getting all the figures, to following the production, spoilers etc.

I know that the films aren’t the most faithful and that some characters really got the shaft, but I still love them. It kind of pains me to see everyone hating on them, especially X2.

Hugh as Logan is incomparable. I don’t see anyone ever being so intertwined with a role like that ever again.

Famke as Jean is still one of my all time favorite castings ever.

Ian Mckellan & Patrick Stewart were perfect.

X1, X2,DOFP, First Class, The Wolverine, and Logan will always be some of my favorite and most watched comic films.


With all that being said, I’m really looking forward to seeing what the MCU does with them.

 

[darthcoolness3]

Weird, anyway I’ll just repost what I posted:
While I’m actually looking forward to DP and hoping for the best, I totally understand peoples feelings here. Logan should have been the last film. It was a perfect love letter to the franchise.

This series means a lot to me as well. I loved the animated series, but the films are what I think really kick started my love for the X-men. That’s around the time I started to get into the comics (with the Morrison series being the one I remember most, so that’s why I love it)

I have so many fond memories surrounding the series. From getting all the figures, to following the production, spoilers etc.

I know that the films aren’t the most faithful and that some characters really got the shaft, but I still love them. It kind of pains me to see everyone hating on them, especially X2.

Hugh as Logan is incomparable. I don’t see anyone ever being so intertwined with a role like that ever again.

Famke as Jean is still one of my all time favorite castings ever.

Ian Mckellan & Patrick Stewart were perfect.

X1, X2,DOFP, First Class, The Wolverine, and Logan will always be some of my favorite and most watched comic films.


With all that being said, I’m really looking forward to seeing what the MCU does with them.

The MCU is probably going to reboot the franchise and start from scratch

 

[Matt.S99]

They most definitely will. Looking forward to it. And hoping characters like Storm, Rogue, Cyclops, and Psylocke get some time to shine.

 

[Alison Blaire]

X-Men Franchise Poised for Shake-Up as Fox’s Marvel Heroes Migrate to Disney

 

[Web-Head]

X-Men Franchise Poised for Shake-Up as Fox’s Marvel Heroes Migrate to Disney

Yep. Just hope Dark Phoenix is a good sendoff.

 

[Mysteryman]

The one to worry about is New Mutants.
Very uncertain what is going to happen to that film.

 

[Web-Head]

The one to worry about is New Mutants.
Very uncertain what is going to happen to that film.

That I could see ending up on Hulu

 

[Matt.S99]

At least we know DP is guaranteed to come out.

 

[Mysteryman]

One possibility is that they release the current cut of New Mutants without doing the reshoots.
It still has that August release date.
We shall see.