Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[EnDz0n3]

VULTURE just tweeted out their X-men movie Ranking from Worst (12) to Best (1):

The good news: It's not #12. Bad news? It's #10.

10. Dark Phoenix (2019)
Famously plagued by bad test screenings and reshoots, the “final” X-men movie with this cast is less a historic disaster than it is a droning, repetitive bore, hitting the same beats we’ve seen over and over, in a perfunctory fashion that feels obligatory and exhausted. (At one point, Michael Fassbender’s Magneto, right when James McAvoy’s Professor Xavier is about to launch into another speech about Who We Are and What They Think Of Us, essentially rolls his eyes to the camera.) Jessica Chastain’s villain has no discernible personality or motivation, the movie seems to be missing whole chunks of exposition, and most of the actors have the emotional investment of people who would much rather be doing something else with their time. At one point, a major character dies, and the response is not to be sad, but to instead be happy for the actor for finally finishing off that onerous contract. You’ll have the same sense: Gratefulness that it’s at last over.

 

[MasterBoss]

VULTURE just tweeted out their X-men movie Ranking from Worst (12) to Best (1):

The good news: It's not #12. Bad news? It's #10.

Will Leitch gave Logan a negative review (mostly for it's violence and darkness) so I'm not surprised it's only number 6.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Meh. I can see why it wouldn't be someone's favourite.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I mean look she is very openly liberal with her politics. But besides that, I just think it's not OK for Mystique to be "hiding" especially around other mutants when there's no real explanation for it. Even in the comics, Mystique tends to be a very prideful person.

IMHO to me the message sets a bad precedent against X-Men's anti-prejudice messages and being who you are.

Yes, I get it, from a practical standpoint, Lawrence doesn't want to wear the blue paint and heavy makeup. Alright, but there's never an in storyline reason explaining why she does it.

It outright contradicts her character development in First Class.

 

[JP]

I’m at the Lincoln Center theater in NYC (seeing Rocketman lol) and it’s surprisingly dead. You wouldn’t think there was a big budget tent pole being released in 10 minutes...


Even XMA has a lively crowd for the Thursday 7PM

 

[terry78]

June is just meh except for hopefully Toy Story. I'll go see Secret Life of Pets and MIB probably due to the A-list but....nothing I NEED to see, per se.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I’m at the Lincoln Center theater in NYC (seeing Rocketman lol) and it’s surprisingly dead. You wouldn’t think there was a big budget tent pole being released in 10 minutes...


Even XMA has a lively crowd for the Thursday 7PM

Nice! I’m Brooklyn based myself. Nice to see another NYC hypester.

 

[terry78]

Nice! I’m Brooklyn based myself. Nice to see another NYC hypester.

There's hundreds of ya'll up in here.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

Isn't this movie relentlessly dour and totally humorless? Who wants to watch that on a humid summer day?

 

[terry78]

Isn't this movie relentlessly dour and totally humorless? Who wants to watch that on a humid summer day?

People going to indie movies during the summer.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Pejo]

Idk who the hell started this whole idea that this was a bad movie, because it was so effing not.

 

[Detective Conan]

Idk who the hell started this whole idea that this was a bad movie, because it was so effing not.

To you maybe not. To a lot of people it is.

 

[Web-Head]

Really enjoyed this, actually. Certainly not the best of the bunch but definitely liked it more than Apocalypse or Last Stand

 

[fan4stic]

I do feel like I missed out not participating in that Q&A. To this day, I don’t know what I was doing to have missed it lol

Ratner shot 2 alternate endings to Rogue’s storyline. One of them was of Rogue NOT taking the cure. You could very well have a storyline of Marie, going to take the cure because life is hard for someone who can’t touch anyone. Because she wasn’t available to shoot the third act battles.

AND THEN NOT TAKE THE CURE. Rogue showing up at the mansion, cured is a slap in the face for what this franchise, this IP, THE X-MEN means to the fans.

I think they said something to the effect of they thought it would seem like she was saying, though this could've been a joke, "I've been partying for the past week, what's been going on here?" or something like that.

I don't see why it's a slap in the face for someone who doesn't like something about themselves, that can mentally effect them and hurt others physically around them, to give that up.

 

[daddydivine]

Idk who the hell started this whole idea that this was a bad movie, because it was so effing not.

The...the people that watched the movie and thought it was bad. It was all their idea.

 

[Matt.S99]

Just finished seeing it. I think I need to see it again to form a better opinion, but for right now I thought it was “eh.” It was fine. It has some really awesome parts to it. There wasn’t really anything I thought was *really* bad, but just average. (Well, maybe the lack of an actual villain)

I thought Sophie Turner was actually pretty great. The action scenes were awesome. I really liked Nightcrawler (I saw some people saying he acted out of character, but I didn’t see that. I appreciated that he got more to do)

What I think really hurts this film is that we just don’t have that emotional connection to these characters. Had they had 1 more film between this and Apocalypse, I think that would have been better.

It really just makes me more upset that Fox didn’t just wait to make X3 instead of rushing it. We never got a fully realized Phoenix, and we probably never will now.
I know it’s not the most popular series, but the X-Men film series has always been a huge thing for me. It’s sad to see it go and on such a bland note. To me, the series really ended with DOFP and Logan. I almost feel like Apocalypse and DP aren’t even part of the same series.

 

[Tymminator]

Well, I just saw it.

I was expecting a freaking dumpster fire and for it to approach Fan4stic levels, and for me, it didn’t. So I don’t have it with Fan4stic, but at the same time I’m still not a fan. X-Men Apocalypse for me was better and I was not a fan of that either.

I think it had parts in there that I liked, but the movie as a overall experience was not a strong or even moderate one. I didn’t leave the theater mad, or sad, but just kinda...tired, and just glad the FoX-Men run is done.

It REALLY should have stopped at Logan, THAT would have been a strong end for this universe.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Spider-Fan]

Capsule review, was not a total dumpster fire, but still had many problems and showcased a general lack of ideas overall. So, basically same quality as X-Men: Apocalypse

 

[Web-Head]

My brother and I both had sorta low expectations going in and enjoyed it thoroughly. He seemed to like it more than I did, but we were both satisfied and enjoyed it more than Apocalypse or the Last Stand. I'd say it's on par with X-Men, personally.

Nothing special like Logan or DoFP, but a definite improvement over Apocalypse.

 

[Detective Conan]

I...didn’t hate this. It’s not good exactly but I had fun and I was impressed with some of the fight choreography.

Once again, Micheal Fassender is the MVP of this series and Sophie Turner was surprisingly good!

One of the biggest problems with this for me is that some of the dialogue is pretty rough in some places and at some point in the film there’s a really forced F-bomb in this that was so bad that I rolled my eyes and cringed.