Sequels X-Men Sequel - Part 5

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Both properties should return to Marvel as soon as possible before Fox damages both properties even more!

Though I prefer for the X-Men to be in their own cinematic universe.
 
yep and that's the best we'll get . alot of people want the Xmen back at marvel for alot of reasons and yes the FF too. but this is the best we can hope for movies wise. as top the comic's it's their creation it should stay therand the movies confict should even be causing problem's where thecomic's games and animated show are invovled next to liveaction tv which brand new. point is alot of problems should be happening and for now the feud's over and hopefully we never see new one spring up. but alot think it might, cause there stuborn people in busness and just plain every where.

so of course their only solution give it back. cause the conflict would end with that.

Anyway the best we can hope for is the same deal sony has with marvel. and it's good thing some one's open. and it from the marvel move studio side. I just want the writer on the comic's end to trying getting ride of them again. but they always go over bored sadly.

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sorry I must have wrote that in hurry

yep and that's the best we'll get .

Alot of people want the X-men back at marvel for a lot of reasons and yes the FF too.

but this is the best we can hope for movies wise.

as to the comic's it's their creation it should stay their's and the movies conflict shouldn't even be causing problem's where the comic's games and animated show are involved next to live action tv. which is brand new. point is alot of problems shouldn't be happening .

And for now the feud's over and hopefully we never see new one spring up. but alot think it might, cause there stubborn people in business and just plain every where.

so of course their only solution from thos looking in is to give it back. cause the conflict would end with that.



Anyway the best we can hope for is the same deal Sony has with marvel. and it's good thing some one's open to the idea.

And it's from the marvel move studio's side. I just want the writer on the comic's end to stop trying to get ride of them again. cause they can't have weird celebrations in the books when the movie came out while a go and the books should be focusing on their own thing story wise instead of weird tantrum's over it as well.

But they always go over bored sadly.
 
I'm fine with Marvel making X-Men films eventually. But not for a long time.
I know the Fox films have their ups and downs, (believe you me, there a few things I'm less than thrilled about. Such as their handling of certain characters) but I'm personally just not ready to let go of this universe any time soon. Maybe it's because the X-Men films have had a great deal of influence on me and are a big reason I got more into comics and film. (Keep in mind I was all of 8 years old when the first film was released)
It's a little hard for me to properly articulate, but there's just something special about this universe to me.
Yes, I'm sure Marvel would be more faithful. I'm sure their costumes would be better,(I love the black uniforms though. Always have and always will) character development would be better etc, but I don't care. I love these films and I'm happy they're still going on for the next little bit.

Would I like to see a new take on the franchise? Absolutely! Just not right now. I'm still very much interested in seeing what Fox will bring to the table.



Fantastic Four on the other hand— please Marvel, beg for that property back.
 
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Pray for Dark Phoenix

Producer Hutch Parker told Screen Rant it’s “definitely a possibility” Dark Phoenix could “go cosmic.” Which makes sense if you know anything about the comic book storyline, considering part of it involves Jean accidentally murdering a bunch of Shi’ar while under the Pheonix’s influence. But still, it’s nice to see the possibility being teased at least!
 
well dark phoenix is defently getting burtched.trying to do both phoenix and dark phoenix all in one film and with lawrence almost certinly returning
 
That isnt evidence of being butchered

Well unless you are expecting incredibly faithful to the comics material and looking at previous comic book movies of any sort i fail to see why.
 
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The only thing being butchered at the moment is the word "butchered".
 
I knew a girl in college who told me she got butched one time, but it was only an experimental phase of hers.
 
First... i think the word both of you are searching for is "butchered."

Second I don't know how when we have no idea what the story will be we can proclaim such a word to it.
 
That isnt evidence of being butched.

Well unless you are expecting incredible faithful to the comics material and looking at previous comic book movies of any sort i fail to see why

taking x-men into outer space and doing jean turning nutso or losing control is way too much in one film.the film is called dark phoenix and most of dark phoenix is et on earth.this isn't like dofp at all.that could be true to spirit
while changing details.

this should focus on cyclops and jean.hutch parker all but confirmed fassbender and lawrence back.with xavier,magneto,and mystique likely joining x-men into
outer space you defently won't see cyclops as leader.

this is kinberg we are talking about.even fans of films have no faith in him.
i am fan of films.just imagine what haters are going to say.unlike some here i even liked apocalypse.this is problem they are heading into.
 
Why is it too much?

If Jean "turning nutso" and going into space is part of her breakdown, that right there solves that story problem.

And how does that any of what is rumored to be in the film suggest that you won't see Cyclops as a leader?

It kind of sounds like you're focused on what's in the comics storyline of Dark Phoenix, yet willing to give another X-Men film that mostly just kept the spirit of the story intact a pass.
 
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Again TDPS was adapted in less than two hours and TPS was adapted in about the same amount of time. That equatse to about 4 hours and 15 minutes overall. And that was a fantastic adaption so shaving off maybe a couple unnecessary parts of that runtime would put it somewhere close to what Apocalypse was.
 
Hutch Parker on Dark Phoenix

"I can’t really speak to anything specifically but I think the challenge as offered by all the films we’ve mentioned is very – we’re very aware of the challenge that those movies pose and what it sort of demands of us as storytellers mining, again, one of the great comic runs in The Dark Phoenix Saga," Parker said. "Our hope and expectation is to try and do something that feels different, that takes the audience into a different tone and a different sense of cinematic style that is appropriately suited to the story we’re telling. So I’m trying to answer your question without giving anything away."

"We are committed to that and know that it’s not as simple as picking up where we left off in anyway. We actually have to be more bold [sic] and more inventive than that."
 
IGN Interview with Hutch Parker

IGN: Do you feel like now because this genre has evolved and so many bigger and crazier comic-book stories have been told on the screen, when approaching Dark Phoenix you can be a little more true to the source material? In the original comic, for example, they go into space and it's much more cosmic and epic in a way. Is that kind of the general idea here with this film?

Hutch Parker: Well, you know, I don't want to go into anything specific, but certainly just as a philosophical matter I don't think there's any territory that's out of bounds. I think part of what these have done is -- and I think there's more to come -- the expanding of the genre paradigms for comic book movies. And we're just at the beginning, and I sort of half-jokingly say you could easily do a romantic comedy. You could do that because at their core you’re talking about characters, whatever their challenges interpersonally, emotionally, or psychologically, who happen to have powers. And so when you really embrace that and you commit yourself to try to depict it in as substantive a way as you can, whether that's a tone like Deadpool or a tone like Guardians or even like Logan's, you begin to see that there's a really broad horizon and that includes where do the storylines go, how intimate can it be or how expansive can it be? And I think you do have to attend to the sort of core values of film, which is that the audience wants to have a relationship with the characters, they want to understand what's going on there. There are certain things that comics can have a little bit more freedom in then when you're asking an audience to engage in it as a piece of cinema, but I do feel like the canvas is much bigger and wider and that we're being invited and frankly challenged to take risks, to be a little bit different. And that's fun, that's exciting.

IGN: So what is the plan for the main X-Men franchise now? I know you have the Dark Phoenix movie going, but it feels as though the cast is locked into period films in a way. That seems like it could potentially be a franchise problem in that they don't exist in the same time as Deadpool or even I guess The New Mutants. Is the plan to continue to set those sort of core X-Men in the past?

HP: I think as you've identified Dark Phoenix is kind of following on what we've done in First Class and Apocalypse and Days of Future Past, but we’re moving pretty fast towards the present and I think it will open up the possibility of expanding the world to kind of include or at least touch on some of these other arenas, you know kind of other characters, other times, and things like that. We also know within the world now we have experienced time travel, we have experienced so many different tools and techniques for moving fluidly wherever one wants to. And I think the key for us in all the conversations with [Dark Phoenix writer-director] Simon [Kinberg] and the various filmmakers is really letting the stories we feel are best told to kind of dictate where we go. When we find a story we really believe is one that should be told, how do we best tell it and you know what do we need to tell that story most effectively? I think to the good, the universe is such that there are a lot of options, there a lot of opportunities. So that's kind of what's guiding us. It’s a long-winded way of saying I think we have flexibility and I think you may see some of that intersection in the future.

IGN: Is it scary to now be embarking on an X-Men movie with Dark Phoenix that will not have Hugh Jackman in it, and presumably not have Wolverine in it?

HP: No, because honestly I've never believed that... I mean, we’re lucky in that we have a lot of iconic characters, but I really think the key to any movie is that you tell the story kind of in a fulsome way, with depth, with skill, and you will find your audience. So the idea of having Hugh in it, I'd love to have him in it if there were a meaningful role for him to play. I think one of the mistakes that people historically have made in Hollywood, and there are countless examples of this, is making the assumption that if the movie worked before, if we just remake it it'll work again. And that's the same mistake as if we just put this big element into the middle of a movie that'll mean it works. And that's a false assumption. Would I like to have Hugh? Always. He's one of the finest guys around and is such a pleasure and so iconic in that character. But I think in the Dark Phoenix story that we're preparing, we feel really good about it and it's an opportunity to do something also that is unique and different and more specific in ways that previous movies haven’t really had the opportunity to be and that what those things are will fulfill what we're trying to do. So you never know whether they're going to work. We didn't know on Logan. But we feel very good about the story we're telling in the movie we hope to make and we hope the audience will too.

IGN: Now, you've been involved in these films from the beginning, haven't you?

HP: Yeah, in one role or another, meaning for the last four or five years I've been producing and before that I was at the studio for something like 20 years.

IGN: So what's it like to see how far this genre has come in the past 15 or 20 years? Really, you know, the trend kind of started with the X-Men movies and Spider-Man over at Sony.

HP: It's pretty amazing, and we owe a debt of gratitude to Bryan Singer and Lauren Shuler Donner for what they did with those early movies and the door they kicked open with the tone of the first X-Men. [It was] incredibly bold to open with something as sacred as, you know, the concentration camps, and in my opinion it reset the tonal boundaries for these movies and invited a different level of seriousness to them than we had seen before that. And I think they’ve continue to evolve since, and so for me sometimes more intimately and sometimes a little bit more sort of removed, it's been incredibly exciting to watch that evolve, knowing how incredibly rich and fruitful the underlying material is. At the end of the day, it's all about the underlying material and part of it has to be credited to that, and then I think you have the audience to credit because they have a lot to do with how they cast their votes. Ultimately as much as it's a business, it's a democracy. And the audience votes on how they feel based on the way they spend their money for tickets. So I think they play an important role.

And then I would I would tip my hat to the filmmakers because, as all of us know, it has so much to do with the filmmaker, and the quality of the material has gone on to attract really remarkable storytellers. And it will continue to because I think the horizon is broad and wide in terms of where these films can go tonally with these kinds of stories. We've now seen that with the ratings and in all ways the canvas is getting wider and larger, which doesn't necessarily mean we now all go make bigger movies. It actually means in some ways the opposite: You've got the flexibility to do them big when the scale is required or to do something more intimate when that's the better approach. And I find that really exhilarating as somebody who's involved in helping to articulate the stories and see them brought to the screen. You've got a tremendous amount of flexibility now.

IGN: It is such a vast world to pull from in the comics that there's got to be no shortage of material to spread around among all the filmmakers working on X-Men universe films, right?

HP: Yeah, that's absolutely true. In many ways there's more work than any few of us can do. And so luckily we've got other really high quality personnel and people, producers and directors and key personnel, that are drawn to the world. And that's great all the way around. It's great for these movies, it's great for emerging filmmakers, it's great for established filmmakers who want to kind of explore new territory. It's a really exciting place to be working.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/05/23/x-men-dark-phoenix-producer-says-nothing-is-out-of-bounds-now
 
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Since they've yet to come out and say or confirm it, would be nice to get a question about the direction itself. I mean, asking about not having Wolverine? That's the best IGN could do? Maybe the behind the scenes folks want to keep things close to the chest, but some sort of confirmation or even an idea would be nice.
 
with [...writer-director] Simon [Kinberg]

Ok IGN...LOL

I really don't get why this is allowed to be a thing.
 
I definitely get some peoples reservations about this. I too think it is a little quick, but I'm not that bugged by it if they do a good job. I'm also not expecting a completely faithful adaptation, nor do I really want one. I am more interested in them doing their own thing and seeing how the original story inspires them.

They said there is a possibility of them going cosmic, not that they 100% are going that route. Also, no way does it say that they're going to fully complete the story within the one film. They could always leave it on a cliffhanger. At this point, it's just too early to judge in my opinion.
I just hope they they've learned from their mistakes of X3 and do this story well.

but we’re moving pretty fast towards the present and I think it will open up the possibility of expanding the world to kind of include or at least touch on some of these other arenas, you know kind of other characters, other times, and things like that.

This part however, does worry me a bit. They say they're moving pretty quickly toward the present. So, I'm guessing we should just ignore the original cast entirely? Because there is no way that the current actors look to be the same age as the original actors. Of course I know they won't look exactly like the original cast, but they could at least look to be the same age as the original cast from 2000.
 
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Dayyyum, that is a gorgeous set!

I hope they do more X-men characters. I really want an Emma Frost figure. As well as a classic Storm and a Psylocke.
 
I thought the bit about time travel was interesting.
 
I thought the bit about time travel was interesting.

If the X-Men are heading into space it makes sense that Writer/Director/Producer Simon Kinberg would use that opportunity to skip forward a couple of decades.
 
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