Sequels X-Men Sequel - Part 4

[marvelrobbins]

Well, there's a few things to be learned from GoTG: Excellent special effects. A focus on the actual Guardians themselves. And a pop culture appeal.

One of the main frustrations with the X-Men films is that the focus isn't on the X-Men. At present, it's on Xavier, Magneto and Mystique. Previously it was mostly on Xavier, Magneto and Wolverine.

Can you imagine if they made a GoTG movie and the Guardians were mostly wallpaper while the focus was on someone else? Or if they made a Harry Potter movie and the focus was NOT on Harry Potter and his friends? Sadly, this is what Fox is doing with X-Men. They are sometimes looking at things in a very odd way that leads people to think they don't really have a good grasp of the material (even if that is not true).

Of course, GoTG isn't perfect by any means. I am a much bigger fan of X-Men - and the X-Men movies have far more depth and substance - but they are missing the mark in several key ways. The series hasn't done badly, but it could do better.

In my view, X-Men: Dark Phoenix now needs a new costume designer and some first-class VFX, whether it goes into space or not. At this point, it's really not clear if they will go cosmic with this movie.

xavier is founder and leader of x-men.however no excuse with mystique and magneto.once we get likely confirmation both fassbender and lawrence are back for dark phoenix it's one step closer to being another last stand especilly with kinberg left alone to his own deivces.

going into outer space alone will psell doom for dark phoenix film.not because they are going into space but it's clear phoenix will become sub-plot.you can't do personal story of phoenix and go into outer space.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Marvel Studios has a certain mindset when it comes to ensemble films, meaning they know how to do it. Even if a few of the cast are more of the supporting type, they all get their own little arc and time to shine.

I think most assemble movies attempt to do this with the majority of characters, which is why any belief that its 100% all gonna be on jean while the others just center around her development isn't the most likely scenario for a movie.

going into outer space alone will psell doom for dark phoenix film.not because they are going into space but it's clear phoenix will become sub-plot.you can't do personal story of phoenix and go into outer space.

Not at all, its about how you balance it all out.

 

[YoungBlood]

xavier is founder and leader of x-men.however no excuse with mystique and magneto.once we get likely confirmation both fassbender and lawrence are back for dark phoenix it's one step closer to being another last stand especilly with kinberg left alone to his own deivces.

going into outer space alone will psell doom for dark phoenix film.not because they are going into space but it's clear phoenix will become sub-plot.you can't do personal story of phoenix and go into outer space.

Why would it be another last stand?
If Magneto or Mystique come back, it is more likely that they would be there to help the X-Men defeat the Phoenix and save Jean.

 

[terry78]

The problem is that during the 90s X-Men turned into The Wolverine Show, in all media. They wanted to capitalize on that but it got out of hand.

 

[YoungBlood]

The problem is that during the 90s X-Men turned into The Wolverine Show, in all media. They wanted to capitalize on that but it got out of hand.

Luckily, those days should be over with Wolverine getting thrown out of DOFP in the final battle, Jackman's Swan Song Logan, and whatever nonsense Marvel Comics is doing to X-Men and Wolverine.

 

[magneto23]

Honestly if they touch on space in the next movie i doubt it would be full blown guardians of the galaxy, it would probably be more a tease to a much bigger universe.

Farthest the X-Men will venture is the moon to battle the imperial guard IMO. It'd be cool if they stuck to comic and actually had Phoenix destroy a star, but they might not want to go that route. But I agree, they will be teasing the cosmic universe if anything.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I think they will be fine to make a movie without wolverine.

its just whether the audience will be so hung up over the character that without wolverine there is no X-Men.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Why would it be another last stand?
If Magneto or Mystique come back, it is more likely that they would be there to help the X-Men defeat the Phoenix and save Jean.

it's trying to do too much in one film and having mystique and magneto overshadow cyclops and jean.at least in past wolverine was most popular x-man.mystique was never one.and while magneto has worked with x-men and even led them in aoa magneto is suspose to be x-men's greatest enemy not one of them.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Luckily, those days should be over with Wolverine getting thrown out of DOFP in the final battle, Jackman's Swan Song Logan, and whatever nonsense Marvel Comics is doing to X-Men and Wolverine.

The last stand was only x-men film that went overboard with wolverine.he's currently dead in comics although question is would that had happened if they have x-men film rights and while wolverine will be recast eventully it won't be in dark phoenix.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

I had a light bulb moment; what if Magneto comes into play because Quicksilver died off screen (if Evan Peters decided not to return or isn't in the script) or in the beginning of the film he dies, which would be shocking. Magneto visibly upset that Charles knew he was his son, never told him and that puts him back on the path of mutant supremacy. QS's death could be reminiscent of Thunderbirds dying on a mission. Just a thought I had just in case Fassbender is returning his return would be justified by this.

 

[terry78]

They already killed off one QS, they ain't getting rid of the fan favorite in this series.

 

[Tg11]

They definitely need to reveal that Quicksilver is Magneto's son

 

[GuestStar2004]

The thought of them killing off Quicksilver is quite laughable.

 

[EnDz0n3]

The last stand was only x-men film that went overboard with wolverine.he's currently dead in comics although question is would that had happened if they have x-men film rights and while wolverine will be recast eventully it won't be in dark phoenix.

In the current Marvel comics where Jane is Thor, Cap is a "Nazi" (or Nazeee as Trump would say), the idea that Marvel killed off Wolverine because they don't have his film rights is...misguided.

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[JP]

Yeah, Wolverine may be dead, but Old Man Logan is on the X-Men: Gold team.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The thought of them killing off Quicksilver is quite laughable.

I would lose a lot of interest if they did that. Of the team of young X-Men introduced in Apocalypse, he was by far the best one.

 

[JP]

Quicksilver is too popular with the GP. He'll have a hefty role.

Just hope they retire the music sequence. It was great the first two times, but a third time would verge on "this again?" They have to start getting more creative with him. I actually thought his fight with Apocalypse was a better moment for him than the Sweet Dreams sequence.

 

[terry78]

Well, that's what he does, puts on headphones when he has to do something heroic. It's pretty much his trademark now. Unless they pull a gag where he gets them broken or forgets them.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Quicksilver is too popular with the GP. He'll have a hefty role.

Just hope they retire the music sequence. It was great the first two times, but a third time would verge on "this again?" They have to start getting more creative with him. I actually thought his fight with Apocalypse was a better moment for him than the Sweet Dreams sequence.

to be frank i wasn't inmpressed with his seqyenze in apocalypse..i am sure kinberg will bring him back especilly since it seems like he will magneto and mystique.

 

[jed]

Deadpool 2, New Mutants and Dark Phoenix.

Which one out of these three will start filming first?

I think Deadpool 2 will be the first to start production.

 

[NotNickFury]

The fact that we got the Deadpool 2 teaser before Logan I think hints that it might be shooting soon, but between near radio silence on casting and the fact that Josh Boone is scouting in Boston could mean there's been stuff going on with New Mutants as well.

 

[Drseuss]

wolverine shouldnt be recast any time so others have more screentime....
QS, Xavier, Magneto should return as supporting players

 

[TX85]

Sucks Cyclops still isn't a major supporting player

 

[DawnWarrior]

Tye Sheridan, our new Young Cyclops, is the lead in Spielberg's upcoming 'Ready Player One.' If that does well enough, I wonder if it will lead to him having a bigger role in the next movie. I hope it does.

 

[TX85]

I can't remember right now but was it explained how Wolverine became Weapon X again?...Wasn't Mystique posing as Striker when he/she found Logan in the river?

Everything prior to DOFP was clearly erased and reset in the ending of that film but they should put a little effort in showing how things become different now than just being like oh yeah Nightcrawler is in the new films and Angel got killed off as a villain and that's it. Star Trek 2009 showed how and why new changes got made!

I love the X-Men movies as much as I love the comics but the continuity issues since X2 really frustrates me. Why can't Fox make X-Men their own cinematic universe with a clear connected continuity like the MCU even if dealing with two timelines now?