Sequels X-Men Sequel - Part 6

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[JP]

Our pessimism is what causes things to go wrong. I am an optimist.

Been an optimist on this board since I joined. Heck, I still defend Apocalypse. That time has passed.

Well yea that is a similarity but not all first time writers/producers on a big budget film flop at it, some actually soar. Idk about Kinberg honestly ill have to wait and see, unless they found someone else and just keeping it very much under wraps which is what I hope lol.

'Cept he is directing his own script. How can he soar when he has yet to even leap once in his career?

 

[Smilodon]

Kinberg isn't Taylor Sheridan or Alex Garland. That's not pessimism, that's realism.

 

[BeholdMe]

Been an optimist on this board since I joined. Heck, I still defend Apocalypse. That time has passed.



'Cept he is directing his own script. How can he soar when he has yet to even leap once in his career?

Is there a possibility that he wont be doing both and they are keeping it under wraps? Im just trying to stay optimistic at least until I see a bit more of the film.

 

[GuestStar2004]

In the long run what is happening is gonna happen and all you can really do is hope for another DOFP rather than TLS.

The lack of directing doesn't mean kinberg won't be a good director, heck there are many first time directors that can pull it off purely because they have the vision too, just like there are many directors who people feel are either to samey like michael bay or directors who were once praised that people feel (perhaps unfairly) that just don't have it anymore.

Fans can over exaggerate very easy and you guys should know that by now, you can anxiously make mole hills into mountains purely because as of the moment there is very little else to think about with this film.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Been an optimist on this board since I joined. Heck, I still defend Apocalypse. That time has passed.



'Cept he is directing his own script. How can he soar when he has yet to even leap once in his career?

i am perhapes biggest apocalypse fan on these boards.heck i will defend any singer fim even superman returns from haters.but,no defending this idiotcy by fox giving Kinberg total regins for dark phoenix.and we know they are because a-Kinberg doing interviews for logan didn't deny collidar report saying it was premature and 2-hutch parker basicly confirmed it.so he's directing dark phoenix.

I don't see anyway around dark phoenix doesn't turn out like the mummy which has a 18% fresh on rt.it would be miracle if dark phoenix would get rating similar to apocalypse 48% freshKinberg also will screw up for
second time dark phoenix story.now even if singer was directing i still
would think it was bad idea to do introduction of shiar,take x-men into space,and dark phoenix story in one film.at least with Singer i would have
some faith.i have none In Kinberg.

when people who liked apocalypse,and yes people who do exsist,have no faith in dark phoenix to be anything at best another last stand this film has
serious problem.and this is before the likelyhood as parker hinted at both lawrence and fassbender being confirmed to return.while i continue to argue
with dofp jackman didn' take it from first class cast and that in apocalypse
jean was actully more important in context of film than mystique i can see
no way of arguring for dark phoenix having both especilly mystique.
and again.jackman was liked by fans of films and was draw playing wolverine.and he always was seen as loving playing wolverine.fans don't
like lawrence.she is no draw.and she has shown no love for x-men films.

 

[GuestStar2004]

now even if singer was directing i still
would think it was bad idea to do introduction of shiar,take x-men into space,and dark phoenix story in one film.at least with Singer i would have
some faith.i have none In Kinberg.

But thats because you are looking at it as if it would follow the comic direction of the story rather then be its own thing.

Thing about this movie is that it will have the same amount of freedom that New mutants or Logan has where they made alot of changes or to requote what you said "thinking outside of the box"

Thinking outside of the box is gonna be big thing with this franchise and truth be told any decisions made with Dark Pheonix will also be thinking outside of the box rather than held to comic lore.

 

[marvelrobbins]

But thats because you are looking at it as if it would follow the comic direction of the story rather then be its own thing.

Thing about this movie is that it will have the same amount of freedom that New mutants or Logan has where they made alot of changes or to requote what you said "thinking outside of the box"

Thinking outside of the box is gonna be big thing with this franchise and truth be told any decisions made with Dark Pheonix will also be thinking outside of the box rather than held to comic lore.

lol at anyone saying i want a perfectly comic accurate film.

the skeptism starts with simon kinberg.

there undoudtly will be a reason for x-men to go into outer space.now who knows if d'ken will be in film but it's possibly with lilandra being cast.of course it's also possable some other threat.

with how kinberg in interview brought up first x-men.it's possable while in outer space towards end of second act jean loses it in outer space and third act is trying to both save universe from "dark Phoenix" and try to bring
jean back.

a compassion can be made to batman v superman which took batman vs superman from dark knight returns and superman vs doomsday from
death of superman to taking outer space story and dark phoenix for this film.

 

[JP]

The only thing that would put me at ease is if Drew Goddard was overseeing the film in some capacity, like Deadpool 2. But the way Kinberg has talked about the script, he's the only one who's worked on it.

 

[Sithborg]

On a technical level, I'm not too worried. It seems pretty clear that Kinberg has been turning his on level producership into an apprenticeship.

Anything other than that, well, no real point in worrying until we actually get something.

 

[NotNickFury]

The only thing that would put me at ease is if Drew Goddard was overseeing the film in some capacity, like Deadpool 2. But the way Kinberg has talked about the script, he's the only one who's worked on it.

Yeah, Goddard would be great. It's really something that the solo stuff like Logan and Deadpool, and even stuff like Legion, have some top notch writers and directors attached, but for the main films and something as big as Dark Phoenix...yeah, the technical crew and stuff sound good, but not so much the writers and directors. At this time, anyway.

 

[Lip]

I still think that is too, too soon for Dark Phoenix. They just introduced Jean. Give time to develop Jean and Scott as individuals and as a couple. Not to mention the other characters like Storm that need that shining spot too.

Plus, they're mixing the Phoenix saga with Dark Phoenix Saga, which is a lot of one movie. So the movie will have: 1) the new cast; 2) the FC cast with McAvoy, Fassbender and Lawrence and their screentime; 3) the introduction of the Shi'ar empire, apparently with big names like Jolie or Chastain; 4) New (beloved) characters like Rogue; 5) Apparently the Hellfire club too, judging by January Jones tweet. That's a lot. I wonder if Storm will have four or five lines this time.

And there is also Kinberg writing and directing.

Rumours or not, I hate basically everything I hear about this movie.

 

[Lip]

Does anybody know if they have the same people that worked in previous movies?

I know a crew from Mad Max joined the movie, I think for the action scenes.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Apparently the Hellfire club too, judging by January Jones tweet.

January jones has a twitter page?

I can't find this piece of information

 

[2kt09]

Does anybody know if they have the same people that worked in previous movies?

Check the imdb.
The only new guys are people who worked on Mad Max Fury Road and the upcoming It.

 

[Lip]

January jones has a twitter page?

I can't find this piece of information

instagram

 

[GuestStar2004]

instagram

I can't see anything on there either that even hints that she will be in it.

Unless you mean the photo she posted in Febuary which is a long time ago now or an image in the "photos of Januaryjones" section but thats not what she posted, thats what a fan posted and tagged her in it asking the question whether she will be back or not.

 

[Lip]

I can't see anything on there either that even hints that she will be in it.

Unless you mean the photo she posted in Febuary which is a long time ago now or an image in the "photos of Januaryjones" section but thats not what she posted, thats what a fan posted and tagged her in it asking the question whether she will be back or not.

Yes, darling, that picture. That picture she posted around the same time Sophie Turner reported they'd be shooting soon, the same time it was reported McAvoy and Kinberg were talking about the new x-men movie.

If you did read the saga, you know Emma and the Hellfire is a big part of it, and the movie is names Dark Phoenix, so I won't be surprised at all if she is back.

And if she is or not, I can't decide what's worst. Not having Emma and the Hellfire in the Dark Phoenix adaptation, or having them mixed with all of that.

And still with Emma or not, I still hate what I'm hearing about this movie and it only make it worse the fact that Kinberg is writing and probably directing.

 

[JP]

Doubt it. You either have Hellfire or Shiar. Both? Too much...

 

[Lip]

Exactly it's too much. Still, there was already too much in The Last Stand (Kinberg involved) and too much in Apocalypse (Kinberg involved).

So no, I don't doubt there will be too much stories or too much characters.

Beloved characters wasted or killed off is guaranteed. That's an X-Men movie tradition. I don't expect them to change that, not with same creative team.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Yes, darling, that picture. That picture she posted around the same time Sophie Turner reported they'd be shooting soon, the same time it was reported McAvoy and Kinberg were talking about the new x-men movie.

So you think January would be one of the first to be informed?

If you did read the saga, you know Emma and the Hellfire is a big part of it, and the movie is names Dark Phoenix, so I won't be surprised at all if she is back.

I would, and i don't think its happening personally

Not everything is gonna be adapted, like with New Mutants for example they are stripping away layers of it by not having the X-Men or even costumes but the core of the idea is still there.

 

[X-Maniac]

I am quite concerned about this movie. I very much doubt it will juggle all the elements successfully. Then there's the worry about crappy VFX or make-up.

As at the start of both First Class and XM:A, I expect a dizzying onslaught of quick set-up scenes introducing various characters/situations.

Some fan-favourites will get short shrift, others we don't really need (Mystique, Magneto) will get undue prominence when they don't really have any thematic relationship, on-screen friendship or, indeed, any real relevance to Phoenix.

There will be a Quicksilver sequence just for the sake of it, Storm will be a token of diversity standing in the background (I wish they'd sell the character to Disney/Marvel for the Black Panther movies, at least she'd have some development and probably be shown as a strong and powerful character) and (as already indicated with their approach to KPop star Rain) they will try to add an Asian character just for the sake of diversity (expect no speaking lines, maybe even cannon fodder).

 

[YoungBlood]

Yes, darling, that picture. That picture she posted around the same time Sophie Turner reported they'd be shooting soon, the same time it was reported McAvoy and Kinberg were talking about the new x-men movie.

If you did read the saga, you know Emma and the Hellfire is a big part of it, and the movie is names Dark Phoenix, so I won't be surprised at all if she is back.

And if she is or not, I can't decide what's worst. Not having Emma and the Hellfire in the Dark Phoenix adaptation, or having them mixed with all of that.

And still with Emma or not, I still hate what I'm hearing about this movie and it only make it worse the fact that Kinberg is writing and probably directing.

Over-exaggerating much?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think with an experienced director on board the multiple things this movie has to juggle wouldn't seem such a worry. But the thought of a first time director tackling it is almost terrifying.