Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League - Part 8

[Da-Scribe]

I just have a hard time seeing any studio giving the guy a lot of money to make a movie, let alone a passion project that probably wouldn’t make its money back.

Maybe he’s at the point in his career where he can mostly bankroll his own stuff. Who knows. It’s been more than a year since he’s worked on his last project. Wonder what’s next for him.

Not disagreeing at all. Just saying if it happens, I’ll check it out. I’m just not of the mindset that Zack should or shouldn’t do certain things.

 

[Consona]

Zaddy I really wanted this to be in the film.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Really need Zack to just write a tell all book at this point.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Really need Zack to just write a tell all book at this point.

I've often wondered if he'd be game for adapting the original screenplay to graphic novel format. Ideally, it would include annotations or behind-the-scenes info. Hell of a commitment, though...

 

[chintai80]

I've often wondered if he'd be game for adapting the original screenplay to graphic novel format. Ideally, it would include annotations or behind-the-scenes info. Hell of a commitment, though...

that would sound very good.
someday someone's gotta do that - it's like how they released a robocop comic series based off frank miller's original script for robocop 2 about 2-4 years ago.

put it under the elseworlds banner.

and it's possible that snyder's ideas would fit better in comic book format.

 

[Jekecy]

If Snyder stuck to <60m short films, he’d rein that territory. I firmly believe his sensibilities just do not translate to long-form storytelling.

I’ve found even his most vilest of detractors would at least concede to two things:

• His trailers are always great and raise expectations
• Watchmen’s opening scene is sublime

Both cases are fragmented pieces of story condensed into essentially a music video. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

that would sound very good.
someday someone's gotta do that - it's like how they released a robocop comic series based off frank miller's original script for robocop 2 about 2-4 years ago.

put it under the elseworlds banner.

and it's possible that snyder's ideas would fit better in comic book format.

Exactly. Better yet, they could release it under the new "DC Black" label with Gary Frank or Clay Mann on pencils.

 

[idiot09]

Clay Mann or Jason Fabok would be my pick. David Finch is not a bad shout either.

 

[Aurakles]

I think Frazer Irving would be a good match with Snyder

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I think Frazer Irving would be a good match with Snyder

Irving's imagery is some of the most evocative I've ever seen in a comic. Good choice!

 

[Consona]

If Snyder stuck to <60m short films, he’d rein that territory. I firmly believe his sensibilities just do not translate to long-form storytelling.

You know what's really interesting? You're saying that "his sensibilities just do not translate to long-form storytelling", yet I've noticed he's one of the few directors that can handle and deliver a third act of a film exceptionally well, the lack of which is something that plagues so many movies.

Like I was watching the director's cut of Watchmen and was like, first act: "ok, quite good so far", second act: "yea, this is really really good, no... it's great", third act: "holy f***ing s**t this is fantastic". And that's a film that was deemed un-filmable and Snyder even changed the Moore's ending. Some day I must watch the longest cut.

BvS UE, another 3 hours long film with so well-controled build-up and such a cathartic finale.

Man of Steel is not only superb overall, but has one of the best third acts ever. I mean ever, a pure blissgasm.

Zack's style is quirky, but he definitely has no problem telling a long cohesive story, rather the opposite, his 3 DC films are the best stuff since The Dark Knight. (Still haven't seen the Rogue Cut of DofP though.) Plus I've noticed one important thing, the more I watch his DC films, the more they keep giving. Which is exactly the opposite of when I was trying to rewatch some MCU films, old and recent, and they felt so flat I didn't get past the first hour (sometimes even 20 minutes) with any of them. I must rewatch X-men 1 and 2 to see how they perform in this regard.

 

[2kt09]

I must rewatch X-men 1 and 2 to see how they perform in this regard.

The OG "getting to follow the character journeys of multiple characters" with sincere, intimate, and human themes.

 

[Polux]

You know what's really interesting? You're saying that "his sensibilities just do not translate to long-form storytelling", yet I've noticed he's one of the few directors that can handle and deliver a third act of a film exceptionally well, the lack of which is something that plagues so many movies.

Like I was watching the director's cut of Watchmen and was like, first act: "ok, quite good so far", second act: "yea, this is really really good, no... it's great", third act: "holy f***ing s**t this is fantastic". And that's a film that was deemed un-filmable and Snyder even changed the Moore's ending. Some day I must watch the longest cut.

BvS UE, another 3 hours long film with so well-controled build-up and such a cathartic finale.

Man of Steel is not only superb overall, but has one of the best third acts ever. I mean ever, a pure blissgasm.

Zack's style is quirky, but he definitely has no problem telling a long cohesive story, rather the opposite, his 3 DC films are the best stuff since The Dark Knight. (Still haven't seen the Rogue Cut of DofP though.) Plus I've noticed one important thing, the more I watch his DC films, the more they keep giving. Which is exactly the opposite of when I was trying to rewatch some MCU films, old and recent, and they felt so flat I didn't get past the first hour (sometimes even 20 minutes) with any of them. I must rewatch X-men 1 and 2 to see how they perform in this regard.

The OG "getting to follow the character journeys of multiple characters" with sincere, intimate, and human themes.

The first X-Men is to this day one of my favorite CBMs, and I feel the only one in the franchise that got the personalities and roles (within the group dynamics) right, particularly Scott and Logan.

And agree with @Consona about Zack, but honestly, at this point...Zack is the very definition of a "divisive" artist; he takes bold creative choices and some people will be on board with them and some won't (and even aggressively reject them), and I think most people who have a position in regards to him won't be convinced of the other one...and so be it.

 

[_Superman_]

You know what's really interesting? You're saying that "his sensibilities just do not translate to long-form storytelling", yet I've noticed he's one of the few directors that can handle and deliver a third act of a film exceptionally well, the lack of which is something that plagues so many movies.

Like I was watching the director's cut of Watchmen and was like, first act: "ok, quite good so far", second act: "yea, this is really really good, no... it's great", third act: "holy f***ing s**t this is fantastic". And that's a film that was deemed un-filmable and Snyder even changed the Moore's ending. Some day I must watch the longest cut.

BvS UE, another 3 hours long film with so well-controled build-up and such a cathartic finale.

Man of Steel is not only superb overall, but has one of the best third acts ever. I mean ever, a pure blissgasm.

Zack's style is quirky, but he definitely has no problem telling a long cohesive story, rather the opposite, his 3 DC films are the best stuff since The Dark Knight. (Still haven't seen the Rogue Cut of DofP though.) Plus I've noticed one important thing, the more I watch his DC films, the more they keep giving. Which is exactly the opposite of when I was trying to rewatch some MCU films, old and recent, and they felt so flat I didn't get past the first hour (sometimes even 20 minutes) with any of them. I must rewatch X-men 1 and 2 to see how they perform in this regard.

 

[flickchick85]

If "nailing" a 3rd act means the movie devolves into loud, tedious destruction porn, then yeah, Snyder's really gotten that down. I have never felt an emotional catharsis watching ANY 3rd act of a Zack Snyder film, not even the ones without superheroes and OTT big boss battles. Third act emotional catharsis requires me to have gotten invested in the characters/story in the 1st two acts, and that is probably Zack's fundamental failing as a storyteller for me. His films all fail to engage me with the characters on an emotional level to the point where I actually care what happens to them. How he managed to make me NOT emotional watching the death of my favorite fictional character in existence, I'll never quite understand, but he managed it.

 

[Micromind]

I remember Singer's reaction when some reporters told him that Nolan had selected Zack Snyder to helm next Superman movie, he said something like "I like that he has not chosen a Yes Man". (Can't seem to find that exact quote tho.)

This is what Bryan Singer said about Man of Steel in 2014, while giving an interview promoting DoFP.

That said, Singer noted how impressed he was with Man of Steel, saying he was "in awe of the world building and the scope." However, he noted there might have been aspects he approached differently.

"I'm not a critic and it starts to get into a weird thing where one director is talking about another director," he said. "I know how hard it is to make a movie, especially one of these movies and especially a Superman movie, and there was so much I was impressed with in that movie. There were things I might have done a little differently just because of the way I view the character. Don't misinterpret that as me not liking something. It's not 'Bryan Singer's review of Man of Steel'!"

Bryan Singer Critiques 'Man of Steel,' Reflects on 'Superman Returns'

 

[2kt09]

I remember Singer's reaction when some reporters told him that Nolan has selected Zack Snyder to helm next Superman movie, he said something like "I like that he has not chosen a "Yes Man". (Can't seem to find that exact quote tho.)

This is what Bryan Singer said about Man of Steel in 2014, while giving an interview promoting DoFP.

That said, Singer noted how impressed he was with Man of Steel, saying he was "in awe of the world building and the scope." However, he noted there might have been aspects he approached differently.

"I'm not a critic and it starts to get into a weird thing where one director is talking about another director," he said. "I know how hard it is to make a movie, especially one of these movies and especially a Superman movie, and there was so much I was impressed with in that movie. There were things I might have done a little differently just because of the way I view the character. Don't misinterpret that as me not liking something. It's not 'Bryan Singer's review of Man of Steel'!"

Bryan Singer Critiques 'Man of Steel,' Reflects on 'Superman Returns'

dang, that's the end of the quote.
Comes full circle: Nolan remarks on Singer's X-Men as doing what he wanted to do with Batman, Singer reflecting on Returns would have been a full-on reboot if he could, the "Watchmen is a movie you made too early,", and now this exact quote.

 

[Aurakles]

I didn't have a problem emotional connecting with character is Snyder's films.
Such a shame we didn't get to see the third act of his Superman story.

 

[Nemeres]

I remember Singer's reaction when some reporters told him that Nolan had selected Zack Snyder to helm next Superman movie, he said something like "I like that he has not chosen a Yes Man". (Can't seem to find that exact quote tho.)

I remember that one too. He said something along the lines of "They got a director, not just a shooter".

 

[Tra-El]

Anyone see Zack's burn to WB? On Vero he posted a closeup of his Turkey for TG with the thermometer reading "120 degrees" and his caption was "Just one more hour..atleast."

 

[Aurakles]

Anyone see Zack's burn to WB? On Vero he posted a closeup of his Turkey for TG with the thermometer reading "120 degrees" and his caption was "Just one more hour..atleast."

That made my day

 

[kguillou]

Anyone see Zack's burn to WB? On Vero he posted a closeup of his Turkey for TG with the thermometer reading "120 degrees" and his caption was "Just one more hour..atleast."

Oh **** really?! Thats awesome.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

you gotta wonder if WB even knows or cares that he's dishing out these subtle burns on social media

Like if I'm a director who wants to continue a working relationship with a studio, I'm probably not doing this on social media, where every single aspect of anything posted is put under a magnifying glass

 

[Vaibow]

Anyone see Zack's burn to WB? On Vero he posted a closeup of his Turkey for TG with the thermometer reading "120 degrees" and his caption was "Just one more hour..atleast."

And the JL we saw was a bit of a turkey too!!

 

[Tra-El]

you gotta wonder if WB even knows or cares that he's dishing out these subtle burns on social media

Like if I'm a director who wants to continue a working relationship with a studio, I'm probably not doing this on social media, where every single aspect of anything posted is put under a magnifying glass

That relationship is burned, burned like a wicker cabinet. Chalk white and oh so frail..