90th Annual Academy Awards - Part 2

[TheFuture]

Dunkirk's great but it's funnyh to me that you think awarding another WWII film would help conteract the Oscar's stuffy reputation.

Then if that's the gauge or intent now it's pretty sad.

 

[fancyarcher]

Looks bland visually (it's Rob Marshall), but it's a good teaser. Repeats the original classic scenes but reminds the audiences that its still Mary Poppins. I can already tell that Blunt is perfect casting for the character.

 

[fancyarcher]

I forgot Adam was last year, but I noticed the lack of Tobe.

It was especially noticeable since they had Romero in the tribute, but not also the other horror director who passed away last year.

 

[Kane52630]

I got 19 out of 24

My predictions...

Spoiler

Best Picture
Get Out


Best Director
Guillermo del Toro


Best Actor
Gary Oldman


Best Actress
Frances McDormand


Best Supporting Actor
Sam Rockwell


Best Supporting Actress
Allison Janney


Best Original Screenplay
The Big Sick


Best Adapted Screenplay
The Disaster Artist


Best Animated Feature Film
Coco


Best Foreign Language Film
A Fantastic Woman


Best Documentary Feature
Icarus


Best Documentary – Short Subject
Edith+Eddie


Best Live Action Short Film
The Silent Child


Best Animated Short Film
Dear Basketball


Best Original Score
The Shape of Water


Best Original Song
Remember Me - Coco


Best Sound Editing
Dunkirk


Best Sound Mixing
Dunkirk


Best Production Design
The Shape of Water


Best Cinematography
Blade Runner 2049


Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Darkest Hour


Best Costume Design
Phantom Thread


Best Film Editing
Dunkirk


Best Visual Effects
War for the Planet of the Apes

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Sawyer]

I contend that Batman v Superman being a straight white dude thing is what ruined it. Should've been their romcom.

 

[Doug_Moore]

Gary Oldman and Blade Runner won Oscars. Awesome!

 

[MadVillainy]

Good for GDT

I'm not a huge fan and I have no interest is seeing a weirdo movie about someone who ***** the creature from the black lagoon

But I respect GDT a lot. And his vision and grind. Also nice to see another director of color win

Good for him.

 

[Iceman]

I didn't see the ceremony but I'm pretty glad about the winners.

 

[chamber-music]

Glad Deakins finally got his Oscar.

Those Hollyoakes actors winning for best short film is super random. I'm sure the award is well deserved and short is probably very good but it weird because Hollyoakes is a 16 to 30 demographic British soap opera in which most of the actors were cast traditionally for looks over acting ability.

Universal should be throwing money at Guillermo Del Toro to do their monster movies.

 

[BatLobster]

The Shape of Water has made 130 million dollars worldwide. There ain't anybody else sinking that kind of care and devotion into creature effects and they certainly aren't casting them as romantic leads. Shape is pretty much GDT's best English language film by a country mile.

Dunkirk's great but it's funnyh to me that you think awarding another WWII film would help conteract the Oscar's stuffy reputation.

Fair points about Shape. To be fair, Dunkirk would've been more like a Saving Private Ryan thing. There's a pretty big difference between films like those and say...The King's Speech. I also think awarding Dunkirk could've played nice symbolically in terms of celebrating the big screen experience in the streaming era.

As I said though, GDT and the genre factor are enough for me to be okay with an okay film winning.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Dunkirk just didn't wow me. It is remarkable on a technical level, but the story just didn't grab me. I remember walking into the theater to see Dunkirk super excited, and I left underwhelmed. Nolan has made better.

Shape of Water grabbed me on all fronts. Beautiful to look at, top notch acting performances, wonderful make-up/camera work, wonderful story, etc. Like I said before, it was a complete experience for me. Easily his best work in English, by far.

 

[BatLobster]

Dunkirk just didn't wow me. It is remarkable on a technical level, but the story just didn't grab me. I remember walking into the theater to see Dunkirk super excited, and I left underwhelmed. Nolan has made better.

Shape of Water grabbed me on all fronts. Beautiful to look at, top notch acting performances, wonderful make-up/camera work, wonderful story, etc. Like I said before, it was a complete experience for me. Easily his best work in English, by far.

I'm glad Shape of Water played for you that way (and obviously others).

I think I'm with DarthSkywalker in that in a lesser year, I could've seen it standing out more for me but I just enjoyed other films a lot more this year, including a bunch that didn't get BP nominated.

But hey, there's always a subjective part to this. All of the nominees were well-crafted in their own way.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm glad Shape of Water is played for you that way (and obviously others).

I think I'm with DarthSkywalker in that in a lesser year, I could've seen it standing out more for me but I just enjoyed other films a lot more this year, including a bunch that didn't get BP nominated.

But hey, there's always a subjective part to this. All of the nominees were well-crafted in their own way.

If I were running things this year, my biggest 2 changes would have been nominating 10 films as opposed to just 9, eliminating Darkest Hour from the BP pool (Oldman and the make-up are great, the film is not otherwise). I would have added Logan and Baby Driver. I preferred a few other like Blade Runner 2049 to some of the nominees as well, but while some of the other nominees didn't play as well for me, I think they were still strong films and don't argue their nominations. Darkest Hour stands out to me as being nominated because it was a biopic with a great performance, no other reason.

 

[Schlosser85]

Dunkirk just didn't wow me. It is remarkable on a technical level, but the story just didn't grab me. I remember walking into the theater to see Dunkirk super excited, and I left underwhelmed. Nolan has made better.

Exactly. Back when it was first announced, I was like "Nolan and a seldom-shown battle of WWII? Take my money!". I walked out of the theater cold.

I honestly think it's one of his lesser films.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Exactly. Back when it was first announced, I was like "Nolan and a seldom-shown battle of WWII? Take my money!". I walked out of the theater cold.

I honestly think it's one of his lesser films.

Very much the same. I expected to see a movie I loved, and just got a movie I liked. For as much flack of Interstellar got when it came out, I thought it was miles better (loved Interstellar).

 

[StarLord]

Congrats to Guillermo del Toro. Well deserved.

 

[Boom]

The Shape of Water was 4th on my personal ranking for Best Picture (behind Dunkirk, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, and Get Out), but I can't be mad about it winning. It's not the typical kind of movie that the Academy gives this award to. If you had told me a year ago that our 2017 Best Picture winner would be a 1950's sci-fi/romance about a mute woman falling in love with an amphibian man, I'd have laughed you off the internet. So I gotta give it to the Academy for going against convention here.

It's also the first science fiction film to win Best Picture too, I believe. So that's cool.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The Shape of Water was 4th on my personal ranking for Best Picture (behind Dunkirk, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, and Get Out), but I can't be mad about it winning. It's not the typical kind of movie that the Academy gives this award to. If you had told me a year ago that our 2017 Best Picture winner would be a 1950's sci-fi/romance about a mute woman falling in love with an amphibian man, I'd have laughed you off the internet. So I gotta give it to the Academy for going against convention here.

It's also the first science fiction film to win Best Picture too, I believe. So that's cool.

For pure Science Fiction, you would be correct. But, if we bundle Sci-Fi/Fantasy like they often are, that would be Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.

 

[Boom]

The Lord of the Rings is one of those films that is a pure fantasy film. Can't put the "science-fiction" label on that one and keep a straight face.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The Lord of the Rings is one of those films that is a pure fantasy film. Can't put the "science-fiction" label on that one and keep a straight face.

Oh, I agree. My point is often times, Sci-Fi and Fantasy are lumped into one category. That's my only point. Not saying LOTR is sci-fi in any way shape of form, LOL!

 

[MadVillainy]

Dunkirk just didn't wow me. It is remarkable on a technical level, but the story just didn't grab me. I remember walking into the theater to see Dunkirk super excited, and I left underwhelmed. Nolan has made better.

Shape of Water grabbed me on all fronts. Beautiful to look at, top notch acting performances, wonderful make-up/camera work, wonderful story, etc. Like I said before, it was a complete experience for me. Easily his best work in English, by far.

I was the same WITH Dunkirk. I actually really disliked it. Technically of course it's masterful but everything else was trash to me.

 

[LvtLeeTDK]

If I were running things this year, my biggest 2 changes would have been nominating 10 films as opposed to just 9, eliminating Darkest Hour from the BP pool (Oldman and the make-up are great, the film is not otherwise). I would have added Logan and Baby Driver. I preferred a few other like Blade Runner 2049 to some of the nominees as well, but while some of the other nominees didn't play as well for me, I think they were still strong films and don't argue their nominations. Darkest Hour stands out to me as being nominated because it was a biopic with a great performance, no other reason.

How is Logan and Baby Driver better than BR 2049 ? Blade Runner 2049 would be my choice for winning Best Picture if it was nominated.

Agree about Dunkirk, Nolan should have grab Best Director (although I'm perfectly fine with Del Toro winning), but the film itself was pretty dull.

 

[Spider-Fan]

How is Logan and Baby Driver better than BR 2049 ? Blade Runner 2049 would be my choice for winning Best Picture if it was nominated.

Agree about Dunkirk, Nolan should have grab Best Director (although I'm perfectly fine with Del Toro winning), but the film itself was pretty dull.

Blade Runner 2049 I would have had no problem nominating, but none of the other nominees were obvious take off the list movies. But as for why I personally preferred them, Baby Driver I think was a master class of editing and both Logan and Baby Driver I feel had superior scripts. I won't argue on a visual level, BR2049 is superior. That film is a technical masterpiece. But, I have to agree with the consensus that the film was too long and needed to shave about 15 minutes. I love it, don't get me wrong. But that is a flaw for me.

 

[Boom]

Oh, I agree. My point is often times, Sci-Fi and Fantasy are lumped into one category. That's my only point. Not saying LOTR is sci-fi in any way shape of form, LOL!

Actually, thinking more about this I suppose the argument could be made that The Shape of Water is more fantasy than science fiction - given that the origin of the creature itself is more mythological and not science-based.