BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion (TAG SPOILERS) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 2

[Poni_Boy]

The RT score isn't a rating

Doesn't matter how often you repeat it, they don't get it.

 

[Poni_Boy]

doesn't Daredevil live in Gotham? No Bat?

I wouldn't call that a killer...no slam dunk.

Dude I truly don't understand your words. Not trying to be insulting, I just don't understand you. At all. Feels like talking to someone through Google Translate.

 

[Light]

I'll admit its not perfect, but she was kidnapped in Smallville and brought to Gotham, that gives quite a large range of places for Superman to look for her.

Then how is he able to find Lois at all times, hell I wouldnt have minded if it was shown that he made an effort to try and find Martha before residing himself to the faith of killing Batman "no one stays good forever".

 

[Jumpman]

Again just want to point out none of these people possess the capability and abilities of Superman.

I don't care. The MCU doesn't address, within the films, those questions I asked. They don't I've seen those films enough times to know that they don't.

And don't give the BS about "it's in the TV show" nonsense. Don't want to hear that because I shouldn't have to watched BS of SHIELD to get the answers or at least, not have to ask the questions.

 

[TripleJ]

Yep, lets face it. At this point people just want to complain about everything regardless whether or not its logical.

Superman would literally hear everything, not just people crying out for help but people going to the bathroom, snoring, watching tv, talking. Of course he has to tune everything out.

People who complain hes not listening but then complain the clark kent persona is dead are hypocrites. He'd basically be superman full time when hes resurrected which sounds like what you people want.

I can understand actual criticism.

But, it's got to the point where people are "criticizing" every little thing in the movie - many of which were always part of the comics. I can't imagine how they enjoyed reading comics

 

[Predator jp]

Snyder definitely is not good at communicating those things. his reasoning behind allowing Batman to kill was a great example.

if he had explained how Batman is broken after all these years, he has seen Robin got killed and battle of metropolis was the final straw, there has been no controversy at all. instead, he went on to say Nolan's Batman killed alot as well or it's more like manslaughter than murder and all that. he's not helping.

 

[Light]

doesn't Daredevil live in Gotham? No Bat?

I wouldn't call that a killer...no slam dunk.

 

[TripleJ]

Then how is he able to find Lois at all times, hell I wouldnt have minded if it was shown that he made an effort to try and find Martha before residing himself to the faith of killing Batman "no one stays good forever".

They did have a scene...which Snyder just explained. But, they cut it out. We will get it (probably) in UC.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I don't care. The MCU doesn't address, within the films, those questions I asked. They don't I've seen those films enough times to know that they don't.

And don't give the BS about "it's in the TV show" nonsense. Don't want to hear that because I shouldn't have to watched BS of SHIELD to get the answers or at least, not have to ask the questions.

It is addressed. It's addressed in Ant-Man. It's addressed in Winter Soldier. It's addressed in Iron Man 3. It's addressed all over dude. And in the Netflix shows. And in the TV shows. It's there. Can't deny it.

 

[Aquafinn90]

Then how is he able to find Lois at all times, hell I wouldnt have minded if it was shown that he made an effort to try and find Martha before residing himself to the faith of killing Batman "no one stays good forever".

As I stated before, not perfect, but I would assume that he keeps an ear out for Louis since she's always getting into trouble. Especially considering she was going to a dangerous area of Africa- He obviously would have known she was going there.

As for making an effort to find Martha, that's exactly what was just posted- Snyder cut a scene in which he did try listening for her but was overwhelmed with all the cries for help by everyone else.

 

[Sleiek]

defenders are defending everything and haters are complaining about everything. i'm stuck in the middle and enjoying the view. it's amussing.

I am a defender but I know better than to repeat the same **** over and over again.

I am not even going to get in on this debate. It is amusing to watch.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Snyder definitely is not good at communicating those things. his reasoning behind allowing Batman to kill was a great example.

if he had explained how Batman is broken after all these years, he has seen Robin got killed and battle of metropolis was the final straw, there has been no controversy at all. instead, he went on to say Nolan's Batman killed alot as well or it's more like manslaughter than murder and all that. he's not helping.

Hah that's the point. He just needs to stop talking. Dude is just making it worse. Like, every day.

 

[Light]

I don't care. The MCU doesn't address, within the films, those questions I asked. They don't I've seen those films enough times to know that they don't.

And don't give the BS about "it's in the TV show" nonsense. Don't want to hear that because I shouldn't have to watched BS of SHIELD to get the answers or at least, not have to ask the questions.

You should care because it matters a great deal, based on the capabilities of these individuals they are limited to how they operate. Also just want to point out after Avengers we had IM3 and a lot of people complained where were the Avengers to aid Tony during the whole fiasco with the Mandarin attacking his home.

 

[Aquafinn90]

It is addressed. It's addressed in Ant-Man. It's addressed in Winter Soldier. It's addressed in Iron Man 3. It's addressed all over dude. And in the Netflix shows. And in the TV shows. It's there. Can't deny it.

I can't speak for those movies as I hardly was able to pay attention, but in the Marvel Movies "all the information is right there?"

Just like all of us defending BVS have been stating that most of the "plot holes"- all the information is "right there, addressed in the movie. it's there. Can't deny it"

hmmm sounds like a double standard

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Doesn't matter how often you repeat it, they don't get it.

Starting to realize that. I wonder how much it'd be rubbed in everyone's face if BVS got a good RT score

 

[Jumpman]

It is addressed. It's addressed in Ant-Man. It's addressed in Winter Soldier. It's addressed in Iron Man 3. It's addressed all over dude. And in the Netflix shows. And in the TV shows. It's there. Can't deny it.

********! WINTER SOLDIER addresses where Hawkeye and Iron Man are?! Find the footage and dialogue, ASAP. Don't give me any footage from the TV shows because they don't count. Show me the film footage.

Show me how Stark doesn't know ANYTHING about SHIELD come the original IRON MAN when in ANT-MAN, the prologue in 1989 shows Stark's father is active in SHIELD. He had no idea when the original film starts?

We could nitpick these goddamn films all day.

 

[Logan0327]

Hah that's the point. He just needs to stop talking. Dude is just making it worse. Like, every day.

 

[Jumpman]

You should care because it matters a great deal, based on the capabilities of these individuals they are limited to how they operate. Also just want to point out after Avengers we had IM3 and a lot of people complained where were the Avengers to aid Tony during the whole fiasco with the Mandarin attacking his home.

Yeah...where were they, besides Thor?

 

[Light]

As I stated before, not perfect, but I would assume that he keeps an ear out for Louis since she's always getting into trouble. Especially considering she was going to a dangerous area of Africa- He obviously would have known she was going there.

As for making an effort to find Martha, that's exactly what was just posted- Snyder cut a scene in which he did try listening for her but was overwhelmed with all the cries for help by everyone else.

Keeping an ear on Lois? Oh please this excuses my lord have mercy......we will just leave it at bad story telling then as there seems to be no good reason. I am aware it was cut out but I am saying it should have been shown as it's a pivotal point of the story and clearly a point of confusion for a lot of audience members wondering why he didn't attempt to find his dear ole ma. A good director and story teller would have known that scene was necessary in order to convey to the audience how dire the situation was.

 

[SuperAl]

I don't care. The MCU doesn't address, within the films, those questions I asked. They don't I've seen those films enough times to know that they don't.

And don't give the BS about "it's in the TV show" nonsense. Don't want to hear that because I shouldn't have to watched BS of SHIELD to get the answers or at least, not have to ask the questions.

agreed, they dont address it. Its a plothole but i dont think its a big deal in either movie universes. If they were, the only way for it to make sense is to have every movie be an avengers or JL movie.

 

[Light]

Yeah...where were they, besides Thor?

Good question audience members including myself also asked this but again these people are not Superman.

 

[Aquafinn90]

Keeping an ear on Lois? Oh please this excuses my lord have mercy......we will just leave it at bad story telling then as there seems to be no good reason. I am aware it was cut out but I am saying it should have been shown as it's a pivotal point of the story and clearly a point of confusion for a lot of audience members wondering why he didn't attempt to find his dear ole ma. A good director and story teller would have known that scene was necessary in order to convey to the audience how dire the situation was.

Well I won't repeat myself yet again. But there is always always always going to be this issue with Superheroes.Wether it be DC, Marvel, Star Wars, its always an issue.

Aside from the fact that I hardly think it absurd that he would listen for Louis on dangerous assignment in Africa since he would obviously know she's there.

 

[Poni_Boy]

********! WINTER SOLDIER addresses where Hawkeye and Iron Man are?!

Nick Fury tells Cap twice not to trust anyone or talk to anyone until they figure out who's on what side. It's right there

 

[Aquafinn90]

Good question audience members including myself also asked this but again these people are not Superman.

lol at the double standard

 

[FunkMiller]

My suggestion would be to look at it from an Elseworlds point of view, you will be able to enjoy it more

It certainly has helped me a lot of times (especially when it comes to DC's TV shows).

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I really wish I could! But this is the DCEU. The should have got the classics right, before going off into elseworld characterisations.

But I'll try to see it as Earth.... Oh, let's say..... 45.