BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion (TAG SPOILERS) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 2

[Poni_Boy]

Starting to realize that. I wonder how much it'd be rubbed in everyone's face if BVS got a good RT score

Oh dude, if this thing was Fresh that's all people would talk about. If it got an A with Cinemascore that's all people would talk about. It if was doing well at the BO that's all people would talk about. Negating the other two reception factors to justify one portion of it

 

[Light]

lol at the double standard

I am lost care to elaborate on that statement?

 

[Predator jp]

Yeah...where were they, besides Thor?

he, that's why i love Thor (not the movies but the character). he doesn't give a sh--, he shows up whenever he feels like it lol.

 

[Jumpman]

Nick Fury tells Cap twice not to trust anyone or talk to anyone until they figure out who's on what side. It's right there

That's your answer as to why Hawkeye isn't in the film? Seriously?!

Cap takes that advice to heart so well that 3 scenes later, he's talking to Widow about this whole situation. Nope. Doesn't cut it at all.

Next.

 

[Aquafinn90]

Nick Fury tells Cap twice not to trust anyone or talk to anyone until they figure out who's on what side. It's right there

My exact words I've used all day to explain the "plot holes" in BVS that you've been shunning aside. Evidently you can only do that Marvel films, not DC films. k.

 

[Aquafinn90]

I am lost care to elaborate on that statement?

sure. Its ok in the Marvel Movies because none of the heroes are "Superman"?
That is absurd.

 

[Poni_Boy]

That's your answer as to why Hawkeye isn't in the film? Seriously?!

Cap takes that advice to heart so well that 3 scenes later, he's talking to Widow about this whole situation. Nope. Doesn't cut it at all.

Next.

He didn't trust Widow either at first. Again, it's in the movie. Same with Ant-Man. They address it. It's in the movie. Can't deny it

 

[Poni_Boy]

My exact words I've used all day to explain the "plot holes" in BVS that you've been shunning aside. Evidently you can only do that Marvel films, not DC films. k.

I've already explained the plot holes. They're holes. People are filling them in any way they can. And so it goes on over and over again

 

[SuperAl]

Why are people complaining about superman not showing up in other conflicts when the situation hasnt even occurred yet? Are you making a prepaid complaint?

 

[Light]

Well I won't repeat myself yet again. But there is always always always going to be this issue with Superheroes.Wether it be DC, Marvel, Star Wars, its always an issue.

Aside from the fact that I hardly think it absurd that he would listen for Louis on dangerous assignment in Africa since he would obviously know she's there.

Except Snyders comments contradicts your assumption, and he managed to know where she was on several occasions even during a heated battle. Look it's obvious these things were put in place for plot sake and were not thought through. It's just another issue with this movie and no matter how much you try and make excuses as to why certain details don't make sense or work you can't because the film highlights your inaccuracy everytime.

 

[Poni_Boy]

he, that's why i love Thor (not the movies but the character). he doesn't give a sh--, he shows up whenever he feels like it lol.

Hah that's in the movies too. "I gotta go check something out BRB" and leaves. Boss

 

[Jumpman]

He didn't trust Widow either at first. Again, it's in the movie. Same with Ant-Man. They address it. It's in the movie. Can't deny it

Stop it. It's not. I can deny because the questions are not addressed. Period.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Stop it. It's not. I can deny because the questions are not addressed. Period.

They are addressed. I just proved it. You simply refuse to acknowledge it because it doesn't adhere to your point.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

********! WINTER SOLDIER addresses where Hawkeye and Iron Man are?! Find the footage and dialogue, ASAP. Don't give me any footage from the TV shows because they don't count. Show me the film footage.

Show me how Stark doesn't know ANYTHING about SHIELD come the original IRON MAN when in ANT-MAN, the prologue in 1989 shows Stark's father is active in SHIELD. He had no idea when the original film starts?

We could nitpick these goddamn films all day.

Where was Batman, Flash, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman in Man of Steel?

 

[Aquafinn90]

Except Snyders comments contradicts your assumption, and he managed to know where she was on several occasions even during a heated battle. Look it's obvious these things were put in place for plot sake and were not thought through. It's just another issue with this movie and no matter how much you try and make excuses as to why certain details don't make sense or work you can't because the film highlights your inaccuracy everytime.

K.

I'll ignore that it's an issue in every movie ever produced ever. Because "It's Superman" so it's different. You're right.

 

[Light]

Why are people complaining about superman not showing up in other conflicts when the situation hasnt even occurred yet? Are you making a prepaid complaint?

I am not complaining just pointing out that when creating a universe it is smart to plan these things out. It's just a minor gripe that I personally feel will bite them in the ass later down the line.

 

[Aquafinn90]

Where was Batman, Flash, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman in Man of Steel?

I can't speak for Flash or Aquaman, but ummm We were shown where Batman was during Man of Steel. And WW left man's world 100 years ago. She only came out to investigate what Lex had on her.

 

[Light]

K.

I'll ignore that it's an issue in every movie ever produced ever. Because "It's Superman" so it's different. You're right.

Yes because it's Superman it is different, does every movie ever produced have a character with the abilities of Superman placed in similair scenarios?

 

[Aquafinn90]

I've already explained the plot holes. They're holes. People are filling them in any way they can. And so it goes on over and over again

false. all the information is RIGHT THERE. just like you said about the Marvel movies. no filling needed. literally RIGHT THERE.

 

[Light]

sure. Its ok in the Marvel Movies because none of the heroes are "Superman"?
That is absurd.

I didn't say it was ok, comprehension my dear chap I have already stated I criticised Marvel for it already but Are you really going to hold Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye to the same response level as Superman?

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Where was Batman, Flash, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman in Man of Steel?

Where was Cap and Shield and Thor during Ironman and Incredible Hulk?

The difference is that it is established that the Avengers exist in IM3 and Cap2.

 

[Poni_Boy]

false. all the information is RIGHT THERE. just like you said about the Marvel movies. no filling needed. literally RIGHT THERE.

How did Superman know Lois was in trouble in Africa?

Why did Superman go to fight Batman instead of saving his mom?

Why was Batman just waiting on the roof for Superman and no one noticed he was there?

How did Lois know the spear would kill Doomsday?

Why did Batman make a spear instead of bullets when he uses bullets against thugs?

How did batman aknowledge Superman was no longer a threat?

How did Wonder Woman just show up out of nowhere?

Why is Batman asking Superman if WW is with him?

How did Lois get to the top of that roof where Supes and Bats were fighting?

Why was Jack not evacuating Wayne Tower until Bruce told him to?

Why did Lex create Doomsday if he thought Batman would kill Supes anyway?

Why is Doomsday more powerful than Zod when mixing Lex's blood would inherently make him weaker?

What the hell is Flash talking about?

What was the point of the Knighmare sequence in the context of the story?

Why didn't Bruce research Supes at all?

Top of my head. Go for it

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Where was Cap and Shield and Thor during Ironman and Incredible Hulk?

The difference is that it is established that the Avengers exist in IM3 and Cap2.

Well Cap was frozen.

 

[SuperAl]

I am not complaining just pointing out that when creating a universe it is smart to plan these things out. It's just a minor gripe that I personally feel will bite them in the ass later down the line.

lol What, because they are neighboring cities? Superman can fly around the world, how does being neighbors change anything.

You must seriously hate superman if this is your complaint. And you'll start hating superhero movies more and more since they just keep adding more to the fold on both the MCU and DCEU. Once they introduce captain marvel in the MCU you wont be happy.

 

[Spideyfan117]

Well Cap was frozen.

And Thor hadn't been banished yet.