BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion (TAG SPOILERS) - Part 302

[Visualiza]

Faraci, if you are reading this please realize that you are a massive *****e. Stop hiding behind your underhanded comments about hoping WB makes more appealing and fun movies. We all know that you have an agenda against the DCEU and hope that it crashes and burns.

Head on over to Reddit and tell him how you really feel. He was in the DCEU sub last night taking questions. PM if you want the link; won't post here due to profanity.

 

[djsunyc]

they can reboot this the way fox did with x-men by using the flash to go back and reset history.

 

[Lily Adler]

Batman will appear in the Flash... Buying a Danish!

 

[Knight-Tale]

Batman should appear or be hinted at in all the movies he's the connective tissue of the DCEU at this point just like Iron Man is for Marvel

 

[JOE]

Batman should appear or be hinted at in all the movies he's the connective tissue of the DCEU at this point just like Iron Man is for Marvel

Exactly.

That's why Iron Man is showing up in the new Spider-Man movie next year. People have a bad taste in their mouths after SM3 and the Webb series (at least the second one). Civil War seems to be bringing back some hype to the name for Spidey, but RDJ in there is going to help set that solid foundation that franchise has been missing since Spider-Man 2.

Batman could have that same presence in the DCeU. Sign Ben up as long as humanly possible...

 

[Flint Marko]

I think I might have to see this movie again... I'm baby sitting my cousin for a few hours and she said she might want to see BvS.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

I think I might have to see this movie again... I'm baby sitting my cousin for a few hours and she said she might want to see BvS.

Show her the Batman/Superman Worlds Finest cartoon movie.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Don't. She'll be bored and possibly be reduced to tears after the movie ends.

 

[SpideyZERO]

Please tell us her reaction

 

[Tacit Ronin]

This is a film for adults not kids.

 

[Flint Marko]

She's 11 and has been wanting to see it because her friend told her it was good. My aunt gave me two movie passes and twenty bucks for popcorn, so at least this movie isn't getting any more of my money.
I'll certainly post her reaction once we come back from the screening.

 

[Sleiek]

they can reboot this the way fox did with x-men by using the flash to go back and reset history.

You know what, if it shuts all those people up, I say go for it. At this point, I don't care if I liked this movie personally. The negativity won.

She's 11 and has been wanting to see it because her friend told her it was good. My aunt gave me two movie passes and twenty bucks for popcorn, so at least this movie isn't getting any more of my money.
I'll certainly post her reaction once we come back from the screening.

Great! If her friend thought it was good, there's a possibility your cousin might not find it boring. Will look for your post about her reaction.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

She's 11 and has been wanting to see it because her friend told her it was good. My aunt gave me two movie passes and twenty bucks for popcorn, so at least this movie isn't getting any more of my money.
I'll certainly post her reaction once we come back from the screening.

I am so sorry you have to go through this and she will be disappointed.

 

[Sleiek]

I have to point out younger audience tend to enjoy the movie more. The cinemascore for under-18 is A-.

 

[FunkMiller]

The opening monologue of Batman V Superman is all you really need to hear if you want an idea of the quality of the writing in this movie:

"There was a time above... a time before. There were perfect things. Diamond absolutes. Things fall. Things on Earth. And what falls... is fallen."

Wow. There are things, people. And they fall, man. And when they fall... they are fallen.

That's some deeeeeeeep **** right there. That's some clever-ass dialogue for you.

Because things fall. Things. Lots and lots of things. Fallen. Because they fell.

What absolutely awful writing.

 

[Sleiek]

Hmmm. Guess we have different tastes then. I really liked that line.

 

[Boom]

The opening monologue of Batman V Superman is all you really need to hear if you want an idea of the quality of the writing in this movie:

"There was a time above... a time before. There were perfect things. Diamond absolutes. Things fall. Things on Earth. And what falls... is fallen."

Wow. There are things, people. And they fall, man. And when they fall... they are fallen.

That's some deeeeeeeep **** right there. That's some clever-ass dialogue for you.

Because things fall. Things. Lots and lots of things. Fallen. Because they fell.

What absolutely awful writing.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

The opening monologue of Batman V Superman is all you really need to hear if you want an idea of the quality of the writing in this movie:

"There was a time above... a time before. There were perfect things. Diamond absolutes. Things fall. Things on Earth. And what falls... is fallen."

Wow. There are things, people. And they fall, man. And when they fall... they are fallen.

That's some deeeeeeeep **** right there. That's some clever-ass dialogue for you.

Because things fall. Things. Lots and lots of things. Fallen. Because they fell.

What absolutely awful writing.

Sad thing is the opening monologue made me pumped for the movie.

It made me think we were gonna have another Watchmen on our hands.

 

[BatLobster]

I was with that line up until "what falls...is fallen." That just sounds like a meaningless pretentious line...unless somebody can decode that for me.

 

[Greens]

Maybe he wouldn't have an agenda against the DCEU if WB knew what they were doing? I'll be frank, Faraci has said things in the past I find offensive and childish but his distaste against the DCEU is warranted at the moment.

I find myself in a curious position because this is pretty much what I expected to happen a few years ago when we found out DC's game plan. I figured they were diving head first into waters they had no business being in, and it would backfire on them. Quickly throwing a slate together to copy Marvel seemed wrongheaded on every front.
And yet, I bought the hype. I voiced these aforementioned trepidations and was consistently told by DC fans that they weren't copying Marvel, that BvS was not stuffed to the brim, that Snyder would course correct, that Terrio was going to make up for what Goyer lacked, etc., and I changed my attitude in an effort to be more optimistic and give the DCEU a chance. Now that the walls are beginning to crumble around them I'm starting to wish I had never gotten my hopes up.

I was extremely optimistic about the DCEU. Now, I have a hard time believing anything WB/Roven/Snyder/whoever says.

If Suicide Squad is good, I'm content. It's the only DC movie I'm actively looking forward to. JL is a wash. WW is whatever.

 

[FunkMiller]

I find myself in a curious position because this is pretty much what I expected to happen a few years ago when we found out DC's game plan. I figured they were diving head first into waters they had no business being in, and it would backfire on them. Quickly throwing a slate together to copy Marvel seemed wrongheaded on every front.
And yet, I bought the hype. I voiced these aforementioned trepidations and was consistently told by DC fans that they weren't copying Marvel, that BvS was not stuffed to the brim, that Snyder would course correct, that Terrio was going to make up for what Goyer lacked, etc., and I changed my attitude in an effort to be more optimistic and give the DCEU a chance. Now that the walls are beginning to crumble around them I'm starting to wish I had never gotten my hopes up.

My thoughts about the whole thing exactly. Gutted that it's turned out as badly as it has.

 

[AndrewOz]

The opening monologue of Batman V Superman is all you really need to hear if you want an idea of the quality of the writing in this movie:

"There was a time above... a time before. There were perfect things. Diamond absolutes. Things fall. Things on Earth. And what falls... is fallen."

Wow. There are things, people. And they fall, man. And when they fall... they are fallen.

That's some deeeeeeeep **** right there. That's some clever-ass dialogue for you.

Because things fall. Things. Lots and lots of things. Fallen. Because they fell.

What absolutely awful writing.

I think they were trying to set up the fact that Batman was....fallen? Did I get that right?
Man this movie just keeps me on my toes making sure nothing sails over head. It's so challenging!!!

I had chills during that voice over.

It made me very, very, afraid.

It triggered flashbacks to another time when I heard Ben's gravelly voice-over delivering lines of turgid prose over flashbacks to his childhood.
It was another movie based on critically praised Frank Miller comic work. That also was full superb visuals ripped from the pages of the comics, that had a lot of promise, but started to fall apart when the director did the following:
Changed the origin in bizarre aways for no apparent reason-it added nothing to the story on screen and detracted from the established legend.
Had some interesting and novel ideas for the characters, but ruined those with others that were...not.
Tried to cram over a decade of story lines into a single tale, leaving an unsatisfying ending that felt forced, unearned and eliminated immediately the use of several iconic story arcs from the source material.
Made the hero a killer, refuting one of his core traits in the source material.
Took an iconic arch villain and made him a looney and twitchy parody
Took itself waaaay too seriously, so just when it was looking good it was ruined by portentous dialogue/voice overs....

At least this time Ben is getting praised for his work, not copping the blame for creative decisions that he had no control over.

I actually thought he made a good Matt Murdock/Daredevil anyway, so I wasn't worried when they announced him for BvS.
But yeah, Sadfleck must've been feeling the deja vu. At least he got Jen out of the last one.

If we wait 12 years, do you think we'll get a Worlds' Finest Netflix series that will redeem this?t:

 

[FunkMiller]

If we wait 12 years, do you think we'll get a Worlds' Finest Netflix series that will redeem this?t:

See my current sig.

 

[Flint Marko]

Just returned from the movie with my cousin. Overall she thought it was "okay", her words.
When pressed for further details she sounded very mixed about most everything in the movie, but hated the desert scene in particular. She didn't understand it and didn't like how certain parts were just set up for other films. "That's dumb", her words again. She said she probably wouldn't watch it again and it was boring in parts, but again, she felt it was "okay".
However there was one bright spot that I think redeemed the movie in her eyes - Wonder Woman. She loved Wonder Woman. That's all she really wanted to talk about after the movie; she didn't know there was a Wonder Woman movie coming, so I think I made her day telling her that.
I've always known how woefully under-represented females were in superhero movies but seeing her get as excited as she was over wonder woman's small role in the movie convinced me even more that DC and Patty Jenkins really have the opportunity to do something special.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Tell her its okay and to wait a week because a much better film is coming.