All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - Part 11

[Zionite1]

Pretty sure it's been replaced by the Alaska stuff. Would've preferred Africa, myself.

Same here.I think putting the Alaska stuff instead of Africa was a big mistake.It makes Clarks worldly travels unnecessarily similar to Bruce's in BB.He even spots a beard like Bruce did.If Clarks travels result in him discovering his purpose in the icy fotress just like Bruce discovered his in the Icy Temple of Shadows,ill say Mos is ripping off way too much BB.

 

[DaJanksta]

Same here.I think putting the Alaska stuff instead of Africa was a big mistake.It makes Clarks worldly travels unnecessarily similar to Bruce's in BB.He even spots a beard like Bruce did.If Clarks travels result in him discovering his purpose in the icy fotress just like Bruce discovered his in the Icy Temple of Shadows,ill say Mos is ripping off way too much BB.

Meh I don't think it will matter. Plus Clark/Superman has always been in the cold weather especially in relation to his fortress. Superman and Batman are just similar DC characters

 

[BH/HHH]

Meh I don't think it will matter. Plus Clark/Superman has always been in the cold weather especially in relation to his fortress. Superman and Batman are just similar DC characters

Exactly, I hate when ppl say oh its too much like BB even though Superman has travelled the world in his stories way before BB.

 

[Zionite1]

Meh I don't think it will matter. Plus Clark/Superman has always been in the cold weather especially in relation to his fortress. Superman and Batman are just similar DC characters

My problem is with making Clarks world travels overtly similar to Bruce world travels.I dont want Mos to be a called a BB rip off.It would have been better to have Clark wander africa instead of another artic region sporting a beard becuse Bruce already did it.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I would have preffered the Africa too, but it's all about the reason he goes there.

He's not in Alaska travelling and finding himself or doing anything journalistic (from what we can see). He's gone somewhere secluded and cut off from the world.

 

[Zionite1]

I would have preffered the Africa too, but it's all about the reason he goes there.

He's not in Alaska travelling and finding himself or doing anything journalistic (from what we can see). He's gone somewhere secluded and cut off from the world.

HE Could be secluded and cut off in Africa as well.

 

[ElDuderino]

I'd prefer Alaska and Africa, to show the global nature of his journey. Africa would give him some insight on the truly horrific nature of man at times (e.g., warlords/mass killings).

 

[SuperAl]

there prolly wouldnt be enough time for him to travel to africa and experience all of that. In the end they would have to rush it. Plus hes gonna have to go into the arctic eventually for the fortress.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

HE Could be secluded and cut off in Africa as well.

Africa would give him some insight on the truly horrific nature of man at times (e.g., warlords/mass killings).

I feel like the latter post answers the former.

Yeah, sure there are probably places in Africa he could be cut off from the world as well. But there's a heck of a lot more going on down there that he'd be tempted to get involved in, and maybe the point is that he's trying to avoid the temptation to use his powers for whatever reason.

And hey, i'm not saying I like that. I'd have much preferred him experiencing the horrors in Africa and having that spur him on. But that doesn't seem to be the way they were going.

 

[G.Godfrey]

They probably ditched Africa because it would have resembled Birthright too much. Don't get me wrong, I love Birthright but perhaps they wanted to do something that would be unique to their story. And I kind of prefer the Alaskan setting to the African one. I hope Clark wrestles a polar bear while in Alaska region. Jon Peters is an executive producer so he might.

 

[ElDuderino]

I feel like the latter post answers the former.

Yeah, sure there are probably places in Africa he could be cut off from the world as well. But there's a heck of a lot more going on down there that he'd be tempted to get involved in, and maybe the point is that he's trying to avoid the temptation to use his powers for whatever reason.

And hey, i'm not saying I like that. I'd have much preferred him experiencing the horrors in Africa and having that spur him on. But that doesn't seem to be the way they were going.

Makes sense. There's nothing to "fix" in Alaska. It's just living in misery. Alone.

 

[Zionite1]

I feel like the latter post answers the former.

Yeah, sure there are probably places in Africa he could be cut off from the world as well. But there's a heck of a lot more going on down there that he'd be tempted to get involved in, and maybe the point is that he's trying to avoid the temptation to use his powers for whatever reason.

And hey, i'm not saying I like that. I'd have much preferred him experiencing the horrors in Africa and having that spur him on. But that doesn't seem to be the way they were going.

Cool I see your piont.But I worry this could bite them in the ass with the siilarities between Clark and Bruces Travels.

They probably ditched Africa because it would have resembled Birthright too much. Don't get me wrong, I love Birthright but perhaps they wanted to do something that would be unique to their story. And I kind of prefer the Alaskan setting to the African one. I hope Clark wrestles a polar bear while in Alaska region. Jon Peters is an executive producer so he might.

If that was why they did it they are silly.The Superman movie should rightfully resemble the superman comics in certain aspects.They had no problem lifting the Smallville-tornado rescue from the comics,and had no problem lifting the Schoolbus save from TAS.So there really should have been no problem with borrowing the Africa scenes from Birthright.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

They probably ditched Africa because it would have resembled Birthright too much. Don't get me wrong, I love Birthright but perhaps they wanted to do something that would be unique to their story. And I kind of prefer the Alaskan setting to the African one. I hope Clark wrestles a polar bear while in Alaska region. Jon Peters is an executive producer so he might.

Makes sense. There's nothing to "fix" in Alaska. It's just living in misery. Alone.

Exactly.

And anyway, Batman Begins has Bruce in a Bhutan, in a prison and then climbing a mountain. How is Clark being in Alaska on a fishing boat going to be too similar?

 

[DaJanksta]

Exactly.

And anyway, Batman Begins has Bruce in a Bhutan, in a prison and then climbing a mountain. How is Clark being in Alaska on a fishing boat going to be too similar?

Lol apparently only one person can have a beard and be in a cloudy environment

 

[G.Godfrey]

If that was why they did it they are silly.The Superman movie should rightfully resemble the superman comics in certain aspects.They had no problem lifting the Smallville-tornado rescue from the comics,and had no problem lifting the Schoolbus save from TAS.So there really should have been no problem with borrowing the Africa scenes from Birthright.

It's one thing to ´´homage`` a scene, but lifting an entire first part of the series would be a bit too much. Perhaps Mark Waid could have demanded percentage in that case (even with changed names, it would still be too obvious). I don't know, could be wrong, but still, like I sad, it gives the story of Goyer and Nolan something unique. And I like that. I've read Birthright dozens of times but I've never seen Clark in Alaska. But then again, I love snow and the environment of Alaska much more than the hot African sun so it's also a personal prefernce.

 

[G.Godfrey]

Lol apparently only one person can have a beard and be in a cloudy environment

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[ElDuderino]

I honestly remember people complaining about too many wizard movies back in 2001 (Harry Potter and LOTR both came out in the same year).

Point being, stupid is as stupid does to borrow from another movie.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

What I said was nonesense?

I think it's crazy when people complain about music from other movies being used in this teaser. It happens ALL THE TIME

 

[SuperAl]

I think it's crazy when people complain about music from other movies being used in this teaser. It happens ALL THE TIME

Its hilarious, because people are arguing that they should steal the music from the previous superman films.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Its hilarious, because people are arguing that they should steal the music from the previous superman films.

I'll admit I did want them to use the previous Superman theme for this movie and a part of me still does. But as long as they make something just as good as Williams' theme I'll be cool

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I bet anyone that this is the last shot of the film

You know why i know, because is flying straight up breaking the sound barrier. It's not like he is flying to space to save somebody or go to another planet. The shot is well done. I don't see anything that could be in the movie where Superman well bolt to space like that if it wasn't the last shot.

I am think that this shot will be apart of his first flight. I think the last scene of the film will be Clark, glasses on, arriving at the Daily Planet for his first day of work and his first meeting with Lois. Clark will have actually met Lois early, but only as Superman.

I know most seem not to like the idea, but I think the film will have a structure similar to that of STM and Batman Begins, at least for the first half. It is the tried, tested and approved manner in which to do origin films. If you going to do another, you might as well do it right.

I can see the film starting with a young Clark playing and talking to his father, when the film cuts to bearded Clark doing his Deadliest Catch thing. He'll brood, we will see flashbacks of his youth and eventually he'll find the Jor-El archive. Clark will get a little father/son time with his biological father, and this is where I think we will see the end of Krypton. Unlike Pa Kent, Jor-El will encourage Clark to show the world what he is made of, and we might even get a little training. Then we will see him walk out of the Fortress in his suit and then his first flight.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'll admit I did want them to use the previous Superman theme for this movie and a part of me still does. But as long as they make something just as good as Williams' theme I'll be cool

Does that really seem possible though? It could be very good, but better or even as good the Williams' theme? Not really likely.

I think it's crazy when people complain about music from other movies being used in this teaser. It happens ALL THE TIME

I think the choice was bad. Picking something so engrained in a scene makes it all just a bit awkward.

 

[DyeLorean]

As much as I like the classic, iconic Superman theme from Williams, just by looking at the teaser you can tell the song doesn't match with the image and the tone of the film.

Maybe the new composer could incorporate little notes, hints of the theme, in the score but I doubt he will.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Does that really seem possible though? It could be very good, but better or even as good the Williams' theme? Not really likely.



I think the choice was bad. Picking something so engrained in a scene makes it all just a bit awkward.

I doubt they will have anything as memorable as John Williams' theme....but I can dream. And I honestly had no idea the music from the Comic-Con footage was from the Thin Red Line and I had no idea the music from the teaser was from LOTR

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I doubt they will have anything as memorable as John Williams' theme....but I can dream. And I honestly had no idea the music from the Comic-Con footage was from the Thin Red Line and I had no idea the music from the teaser was from LOTR

The Comic-Con footage is understandable. But everyone I talked to at my midnight screening was laughing that they used Gandalf's death music in the trailer. It is was the first thing I noticed.