All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - Part 3

[hopefuldreamer]

First, do what the Donner films and SR didn't do - actually have Superman's skin start to turn a yellow/green from the exposure. Don't overdue it as they did in Superboy where Supes turns bright green immediately.
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I'm not sure about the green skin, but I do think that STM was a piss poor show of what kryptonite exposure is like for him. At the very least they should show him in pain.

 

[Herolee10]

I guess it's really about; "what can MOS give Audiences and Fans alike that no other live action interpretation of Superman" hasn't given yet, let alone comic book film for that matter?

BB gave fans and audiences a in depth look into a section of Bruce's life that none of us had been able to see before on screen. TDK imho, really showed audiences since S:TM that comic book films can really be GREAT films all around, and more than just a comic book film if done right.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I dunno, I think it'd be great, but I don't wanna set the bar of my expectations too high.

After the mess of SR and the near train wrecks we've narrowly avoided in the several failed projects, all I'm hoping for is a good movie.

Not even gonna think about whether or not it makes money, and definitely not gonna start dreaming about it being a TDK style hit.

 

[Herolee10]

I dunno, I think it'd be great, but I don't wanna set the bar of my expectations too high.

After the mess of SR and the near train wrecks we've narrowly avoided in the several failed projects, all I'm hoping for is a good movie.

Not even gonna think about whether or not it makes money, and definitely not gonna start dreaming about it being a TDK style hit.

For Superman to have a bright future in the coming years, he needs more than a GOOD film; if anything, I think Warner Bros would/will have higher expectations for this film to succeed and successfully start a new franchise for them, since:

1. GL fell way below their expectations

2. Nolan's Franchise will be over before MOS premieres

3. HP is wrapping up this month

Some would argue that SR was a good film, and look where that verdict got that film in the long run.

Heck, if a unfamiliar and more difficult character in the likes of Thor can be critically and financially successful (Over 430 Million in the BO), then it's safe to assume that this new film should make as much as that.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Okay maybe the use of the word good was a bit of an understatement, because your right, I suppose in a way SR was a 'good' film in a few senses of the word.

What I meant was that I want an undeniably great film. A movie that I will want to watch over and over again, that I will convince everyone I know to go an see and be proud and confident that they will like it too.

And your probably right, I should be hoping for it to be critically successful and financially successful too, because it's kind of the last chance for them to prove Superman can make them money and can be done well on the big screen...

But shhhh! I'm trying not to set myself up for a fall

 

[GreenKToo]

It's tough to try and make something new and fresh with any film these days..It seems like everything has that ''been there, done that'' feel, and if you try too hard (speed racer, GL) the audience is left scratching their heads.
I think with MOS they should follow the acronym, K.I.S.S., keep it simple stupid.

 

[El Payaso]

Ooooooh, snap. Damn, you really bruised my ego with that one.

Your ego, who knows. Your reasoning, most likely.

so? do you or i pay 200 millions for a movie? would you spend 200 millions and 100 millions of marketing in am movie that has a big chance of underperforming?
they make cliche popcorn movies because there is a bigger chance that the masses will like it.i liked Hulk 2003. but this means f..... nothing. it was not my money that got lost. Hulk was different and it failed at the BO. so hollywood leanred a leasson in 2003.

You never got the point that we don't do that. We, the audience, spend just the ticket money. And for that, I'd rather have 1 good movie than 3 average sequels.

 

[merced]

I should be hoping for it to be critically successful and financially successful too, because it's kind of the last chance for them to prove Superman can make them money and can be done well on the big screen...

But shhhh! I'm trying not to set myself up for a fall

Yup. I'm worried as this will be the last Superman film - for a decade or so anyway, and this film will set the perception of whether Superman is seen as having been a successful film franchise or not.

I want to see Superman on film go out with a bang (as in good film making good money) but I have my doubts it can be done.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

'Superman' Calling For More Extras
By Dominic Trombino
Thursday, Jun 30, 2011
Updated 10:11 AM CDT

Still looking for your spotlight moment with the Man of Steel? You may still have a chance.

The next "Superman" sequel, filming in the Chicago area this August and September, hosts its latest casting call from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Thursday at the Fire Museum, 5218 S. Western Ave., in Chicago.

Casting directors are hiring firefighters and paramedics as paid extras for the "Metropolis Fire Department."

Earlier this month, casting calls were held in Naperville, Plano and Chicago.

The film has a $175 million budget and is expected to debut Christmas of 2012.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Superman-Casting-Call-124771779.html

 

[Tacit Ronin]

It's tough to try and make something new and fresh with any film these days..It seems like everything has that ''been there, done that'' feel, and if you try too hard (speed racer, GL) the audience is left scratching their heads.
I think with MOS they should follow the acronym, K.I.S.S., keep it simple stupid.

How was Green lantern ( I assume that is what GL stands for, right?) fresh? It was the textbook definition of safe and derivative.

 

[GreenKToo]

One thing that stands out is the uniforms they wore. Maybe i'm mistaken, but I think thats the first time something like that has been seen in a CB film, CG suit over a real body. That was anything but safe.

 

[Rowsdower!]

One thing that stands out is the uniforms they wore. Maybe i'm mistaken, but I think thats the first time something like that has seen in a CB film, CG suit over a real body. That was anything but safe.

Shhh, you're only supposed to say bad things about GL on this site. Only criticisms are allowed, even if they have no basis whatsoever.

 

[SatEL]

It's tough to try and make something new and fresh with any film these days..It seems like everything has that ''been there, done that'' feel, and if you try too hard (speed racer, GL) the audience is left scratching their heads.
I think with MOS they should follow the acronym, K.I.S.S., keep it simple stupid.

How did GL try to hard, quiet the opposite. It played the safe and cliché angle quiet well.

 

[Dr.]

HUlk 2003 was different IMO. it was a bomb muhahahahah

Hulk had respectable attendance. Financially, it broke even at the BO and probably picked up a modest profit on home video, etc.

 

[WeasleyIsRKing]

Okay maybe the use of the word good was a bit of an understatement, because your right, I suppose in a way SR was a 'good' film in a few senses of the word.

What I meant was that I want an undeniably great film. A movie that I will want to watch over and over again, that I will convince everyone I know to go an see and be proud and confident that they will like it too.

And your probably right, I should be hoping for it to be critically successful and financially successful too, because it's kind of the last chance for them to prove Superman can make them money and can be done well on the big screen...

But shhhh! I'm trying not to set myself up for a fall

Haha. I think you just summarized what most Superman fans are feeling very well. What is the cliche that goes with this..."Hope for the best, prepare for the worst."

 

[Godzilla2014]

dude has absolutely got a point.

Hell, even THIS movie could end up being "just another comic book movie". The cast looks good, but I'm not entirely sure this movie will blow people away.

Sad thing is...there are some Superman fans who want a "safe" Superman movie, in order to please the general audience by not doing anything risky.

I agree. I want this film to take risks, and put Superman in positions that he's never been in before, take him places he's never been, and maybe even challenge him as a character. That was why The Dark Knight was so successful, why many wanted it to win the Oscar for Best Picture. For me personally, it broke my preconceptions of superhero movies and opened up whole possibilities for the superhero genre I never really thought about before. Man of Steel should go outside the box that most comic book films seem so content to leave themselves in.

I guess it's really about; "what can MOS give Audiences and Fans alike that no other live action interpretation of Superman" hasn't given yet, let alone comic book film for that matter?

BB gave fans and audiences a in depth look into a section of Bruce's life that none of us had been able to see before on screen. TDK imho, really showed audiences since S:TM that comic book films can really be GREAT films all around, and more than just a comic book film if done right.

Agreed.

Okay maybe the use of the word good was a bit of an understatement, because your right, I suppose in a way SR was a 'good' film in a few senses of the word.

What I meant was that I want an undeniably great film. A movie that I will want to watch over and over again, that I will convince everyone I know to go an see and be proud and confident that they will like it too.

And your probably right, I should be hoping for it to be critically successful and financially successful too, because it's kind of the last chance for them to prove Superman can make them money and can be done well on the big screen...

But shhhh! I'm trying not to set myself up for a fall

Agreed.

Haha. I think you just summarized what most Superman fans are feeling very well. What is the cliche that goes with this..."Hope for the best, prepare for the worst."

That's my philosophy.

 

[SuperDaniel]

New logo?
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=35547

 

[Sabaoth]

^Doubt it. Looks like something put together in a rush to promote the contest.

 

[SuperDaniel]

Still looks cool

 

[akfj]

I can't tell, but what are those images inside the logo?

 

[SuperDaniel]

No idea. There's one that looks like some kind of lighting device for movies or shooting photographs.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Were not getting a blue symbol lol.

 

[SuperDaniel]

I'm liking the idea that they are using the classic S to promote this film. It's the second time we see it.

 

[Herolee10]

Just out of curiosity; assuming that MOS does extremely well at the box office and is received wholeheartedly by a majority of the fans/GA, which then results in a sequel be on the way....How would you guys feel if Snyder didn't return for the sequel, and if someone, like Chris Nolan himself took over the directing helms?

 

[akfj]

I don't think it really fits Nolan's style as a director, and I think he understands that based on what he's said in interviews. If he continues with this franchise he'll just stay on as a producer.