All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 34

[DarthSkywalker]

I didnt see Oz, but yes I heard some complaints about Franco and Kunis.

Franco did good. I was suprised about how good he was. Mila on the other hand was terrible. Like really, really bad.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

Franco did good. I was suprised about how good he was. Mila on the other hand was terrible. Like really, really bad.

Why they casted Mila as the wicked witch, I will never understand.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I liked her as Theodora. The wicked witch is where she started to f**k up.

 

[Project862006]

Emmy Rossum would of made a great young lois imo she is only 26 as shown on shameless she can play a great strong hard nosed female character but also very funny and relatable person

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Emmy Rossum would of made a great young lois imo she is only 26 as shown on shameless she can play a great strong hard nosed female character but also very funny and relatable person

She's hot but my top choice was

 

[dark_b]

Just to compare...

WB released the second theatrical Green Lantern trailer on April 4th, and it was a June 17 release. No action movies where released that week before or after so WB just released it without attaching it to anything.

Could the same happen with MOS?

i think green lantern had a wondercon trailer. then they made a shorter version and realesed it as a theatrical trailer. so we got 2 trailers very close together.

but i think GL only had 1 trailer in november before the april trailer.

 

[Lighthouse]

My top choice for Lois got the part.

 

[Smallville13]

Spoiler

Wait so who's Tor-An? Tahmoh Penikett?

 

[Kal-El.9859]

My top choice for Lois got the part.

I'm pleased with Amy Adams no doubt but I have a huge crush on Olivia Wilde!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Emmy Rossum would of made a great young lois imo she is only 26 as shown on shameless she can play a great strong hard nosed female character but also very funny and relatable person

Oh I like. I like Olivia Wilde, but not for Lois.

If Amy Adams was a few years younger, I'd think she'd be close to a perfect choice. She is still a great choice, but I fear that by the time we get to a third film she is just going to look too old standing next to Henry.

 

[Binker]

REPOST:
On the topic of who to cast Wonder Woman, why not...Olivia Wide?

 

[BH/HHH]

I originally wanted Wilde for Lois but waas very pleased with Adams. I hadn't really thought of her for the role then when she was cast I was stunned but thought about her range as an actress and I thought yes this makes sense.

 

[G.Godfrey]

Just to compare...

WB released the second theatrical Green Lantern trailer on April 4th, and it was a June 17 release. No action movies where released that week before or after so WB just released it without attaching it to anything.

Could the same happen with MOS?

I've been saying for a while that if WB was to follow TDK's and TDKR's trailer #3 timeliness of release that the MOS trailer #3 would have to debut in the first week of April. Now Irish also reminded me GL debuted at the same time.

And I don't know if anyone remembers but this Emile Eid fella of the Lebanese cinema movie guide (yes I know, lol) first posted that the trailer #2 would debut with The Hobbit. Yeah, we all knew that would happen but the thing is the same dude (or dudette, whatever the case may be) went on imdb forums in early December and said that the trailer will debut online on 11th, as per his sources. It did. He also got a few other trailer dates right. So I thought It would be fun to ask him and he said that ´´my contacts tells me that a new trailer is due beginning of April``. Huge grain of salt of course, but for the more optimistic of you it's something to latch on I guess.

However, given the number of events happening in mid-April (MTV Movie awards, Cinema-Con) that WB likes to frequent, 42 and Oblivion opening in theaters and also some great opportunities like the NCAA championship game on April 8th, if WB doesn't want to completely botch up the marketing or have another Batman Begins marketing/box office on their hands, debuting the trailer online in early April would be a necessity if they want to bring anything to any of the events in mid-April.

Of course, the fact that they released a 4 month old photo (already used in a number of things) yesterday instead of a new poster (ala Pacific Rim) doesn't do much to inspire any faith or confidence and given how things have been going I still feel nothing will happen before May. But I hope I'm wrong and that tradition and common sense wins, in which case we should have a new trailer at the end of next week or in the beginning of second week of April.

If anything NEW comes out this week, my optimism will rise from 1% to 15%. t:

 

[Norek]

I like how this conversation was initially how everyone is craving new images, to a somewhat serious concern about WB not doing their part well on the promotion front. With all kinds of silly arguments and points that have nothing to do with anything... Chillax broskies, we still have 2 1/2 months until Man of Steel arrives, and once the promotion kicks in, everything will be flooded with MoS promo-****. At one point some of you will no doubt try to stay away from it because it will be too much.

 

[dark_b]

i think 70% of fanboys talk about the marketing because they hope that MOS makes enough money to become a franchise. they are afraid that because of WB's marketing the movie will not get enough attention in the summer.the realese date is not perfect IMO. its in the summer and in june. WB has more luck in july.

 

[BH/HHH]

People have to remember that WBs re-released 3 pics from MOS again with that promotional pack. Its not like they were trying to give anything new with it so I don't know why people keep moaning about the fact that we got the cuffs pick again. That pack wasn't intended to push anything new.

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

I like how this conversation was initially how everyone is craving new images, to a somewhat serious concern about WB not doing their part well on the promotion front. With all kinds of silly arguments and points that have nothing to do with anything... Chillax broskies, we still have 2 1/2 months until Man of Steel arrives, and once the promotion kicks in, everything will be flooded with MoS promo-****. At one point some of you will no doubt try to stay away from it because it will be too much.

Yeah, I've tried that approach, but hardly anyone will listen. Apparently WB is supposed to show their hand now.

 

[G.Godfrey]

. Apparently WB is supposed to show their hand now.

Yes, actually they are and probably will, as they did with TDK as they did with TDKR and so on. We're not a year or even 6 months away anymore, saying it's still time to hide something is...well, I'll say silly because what I really want to say would probably get me an infraction.

Anyway, new non-news from Goyer:

IAR: To begin with, you’ve previously stated that your original concept for Man of Steel was exploring man’s first contact with an alien and a boy growing up with two fathers. Can you talk about the themes that you wanted to explore with your screenplay and the process of developing the story with Christopher Nolan to reboot the franchise?

David S. Goyer: Yea. I can’t say much about that other than Superman is an incredibly well known iconic figure and I think my challenge was to try to figure that out. To a certain extent he is sort of cinematically frozen in amber, I mean a lot of people when they think of Superman they think of the (Richard) Donner films, and its been thirty-five years or so since the first Donner film came out. It’s been a long time and the world has moved on. I loved those movies and my goal was to figure out away to recontextualize him perhaps and figure out how to make him relatable. I thought, even though he is inhuman and he is an alien, if I can find a way to humanize him then hopefully I will have done my job and people will care about him. He is a tough character because he is invulnerable so you have to give him emotional vulnerabilities and hopefully that way he can become more accessible to the audience.

Since you have been a comic book writer and have worked on comic book adapted movies for so long, did you feel that your extensive knowledge of comic book folklore and the mythology of this character helped you in writing the screenplay?

Goyer: It did help! Although, writing Batman Begins, even Da Vinci’s Demons, and now Superman, I mean yes, I would go to the comic books but I would also call from a lot of sources that don’t have anything to do with comic books. I read a lot of mythic poems and versus for Superman, Beowulf and Gilgamesh, hero legends and things like that. Not just comic books.

Did you have a lot of involvement with director Zack Snyder during production?

Goyer: Yea, I was involved a lot. I was on the set about half the time. We kind of overlapped with Da Vinci’s Demons but I would come and go. I love Zack to death and he’s a blast to work with.

When you were on set and saw Henry Cavill in the iconic Superman suit for the first time, what was your initial reaction?

Goyer: Henry is also a really nice guy and it’s not always that way. I was like, holy crap that’s Superman! I mean I tell my sons that I work with Superman and Batman. I went and visited the set with my six year-old and I timed it so that Henry was in the suit. We showed up and he was like, “Wow, you do work with Superman!” So I got a lot of cred with my kids for that.

What did you think about Snyder’s choice to cast Laurence Fishburne as Perry White, making him the first African American to ever play the role in a live-action film, and the online controversy that it sparked with the fans?

Goyer: I thought it was an awesome choice. I think that it is silly that
people are like, “You can’t have a black guy named White.” But I’m like, well what about Barry White? I thought that was stupid. You just want to get the best actor.

There have been rumors that the Jimmy Olsen character has been changed to a female, can you address that issue?

Goyer: I can’t comment on that.

Can you talk about your decision to not include Lex Luthor in Man of Steel?

Goyer: I don’t think anyone has ever confirmed that we haven’t included him.

Have you planned Man of Steel as a trilogy, and if not, do you currently have ideas for future sequels?

Goyer: I haven’t planned a trilogy. That I sort of took from Chris (Nolan). He always says, “Put everything you have in this film and worry about the sequel once the movie is done.”

As a fan of the source material, are there classic characters from the Superman mythology that you would like to introduce in possible sequels?

Goyer: Sure, but I won’t say who they are.

Do you want to keep that a secret for now?

Goyer: … The Wonder Twins.

http://www.iamrogue.com/news/interv...he-invisible-man-and-the-legacy-of-blade.html

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I like how this conversation was initially how everyone is craving new images, to a somewhat serious concern about WB not doing their part well on the promotion front. With all kinds of silly arguments and points that have nothing to do with anything... Chillax broskies, we still have 2 1/2 months until Man of Steel arrives, and once the promotion kicks in, everything will be flooded with MoS promo-****. At one point some of you will no doubt try to stay away from it because it will be too much.

This 100%

The promotion for this movie will pick up soon. Especially with NBA playoffs coming up soon, plenty of people will see ads for this movie. All the fanboy worry about marketing is just unnecessary.

 

[G.Godfrey]

Its not like they were trying to give anything new with it

And that's the problem.

so I don't know why people keep moaning about the fact that we got the cuffs pick again.

Because it's been done 4 times in the past 4 months.

That pack wasn't intended to push anything new.

Again, that's the problem. Pacific Rim got a new poster MOS got a reused old photo. Shows they put care to PR's marketing and material released, even though it's out a month later.

Anyway, we'll probably get the trailer in the next 2-3 weeks.

 

[Smallville13]

Yes, actually they are and probably will, as they did with TDK as they did with TDKR and so on. We're not a year or even 6 months away anymore, saying it's still time to hide something is...well, I'll say silly because what I really want to say would probably get me an infraction.

Anyway, new non-news from Goyer:

Spoiler

IAR: To begin with, you’ve previously stated that your original concept for Man of Steel was exploring man’s first contact with an alien and a boy growing up with two fathers. Can you talk about the themes that you wanted to explore with your screenplay and the process of developing the story with Christopher Nolan to reboot the franchise?

Spoiler

David S. Goyer: Yea. I can’t say much about that other than Superman is an incredibly well known iconic figure and I think my challenge was to try to figure that out. To a certain extent he is sort of cinematically frozen in amber, I mean a lot of people when they think of Superman they think of the (Richard) Donner films, and its been thirty-five years or so since the first Donner film came out. It’s been a long time and the world has moved on. I loved those movies and my goal was to figure out away to recontextualize him perhaps and figure out how to make him relatable. I thought, even though he is inhuman and he is an alien, if I can find a way to humanize him then hopefully I will have done my job and people will care about him. He is a tough character because he is invulnerable so you have to give him emotional vulnerabilities and hopefully that way he can become more accessible to the audience.

Since you have been a comic book writer and have worked on comic book adapted movies for so long, did you feel that your extensive knowledge of comic book folklore and the mythology of this character helped you in writing the screenplay?

Goyer: It did help! Although, writing Batman Begins, even Da Vinci’s Demons, and now Superman, I mean yes, I would go to the comic books but I would also call from a lot of sources that don’t have anything to do with comic books. I read a lot of mythic poems and versus for Superman, Beowulf and Gilgamesh, hero legends and things like that. Not just comic books.

Did you have a lot of involvement with director Zack Snyder during production?

Goyer: Yea, I was involved a lot. I was on the set about half the time. We kind of overlapped with Da Vinci’s Demons but I would come and go. I love Zack to death and he’s a blast to work with.

When you were on set and saw Henry Cavill in the iconic Superman suit for the first time, what was your initial reaction?

Goyer: Henry is also a really nice guy and it’s not always that way. I was like, holy crap that’s Superman! I mean I tell my sons that I work with Superman and Batman. I went and visited the set with my six year-old and I timed it so that Henry was in the suit. We showed up and he was like, “Wow, you do work with Superman!” So I got a lot of cred with my kids for that.

What did you think about Snyder’s choice to cast Laurence Fishburne as Perry White, making him the first African American to ever play the role in a live-action film, and the online controversy that it sparked with the fans?

Goyer: I thought it was an awesome choice. I think that it is silly that
people are like, “You can’t have a black guy named White.” But I’m like, well what about Barry White? I thought that was stupid. You just want to get the best actor.

There have been rumors that the Jimmy Olsen character has been changed to a female, can you address that issue?

Goyer: I can’t comment on that.

Can you talk about your decision to not include Lex Luthor in Man of Steel?

Goyer: I don’t think anyone has ever confirmed that we haven’t included him.

Have you planned Man of Steel as a trilogy, and if not, do you currently have ideas for future sequels?

Goyer: I haven’t planned a trilogy. That I sort of took from Chris (Nolan). He always says, “Put everything you have in this film and worry about the sequel once the movie is done.”

As a fan of the source material, are there classic characters from the Superman mythology that you would like to introduce in possible sequels?

Goyer: Sure, but I won’t say who they are.

Do you want to keep that a secret for now?

Goyer: … The Wonder Twins.

http://www.iamrogue.com/news/interv...he-invisible-man-and-the-legacy-of-blade.html

Great interview. Interviewer asked questions that we would ask too (Jenny Olsen, Luthor, etc.) which was great.

2.5 months people!!!

I'll ask again though: Who are we speculating is playing Tor-An? I'm guessing Tahmoh Penikett.

 

[G.Godfrey]

All the fanboy worry about marketing is just unnecessary.

It would be if no big budget and/or great movie ever tanked or underperformed and thus and failed to start a franchise or if WB's marketing team was infallible. As neither is the case, I fail to see how discussing the marketing aspect of this film (a reboot AND an origin story of a character no longer massively popular or relevant on the big screen) is unnecessary, especially on a forum that discussed everything from hair styles, hair color, actresses legs/body weight and the shape of the abs on Supermans costume, among other things.

 

[STARMAN]

Tor-An is played by Rich Cerrone.

 

[Krumm]

Yes, actually they are and probably will, as they did with TDK as they did with TDKR and so on. We're not a year or even 6 months away anymore, saying it's still time to hide something is...well, I'll say silly because what I really want to say would probably get me an infraction.

Anyway, new non-news from Goyer:

Spoiler

IAR: To begin with, you’ve previously stated that your original concept for Man of Steel was exploring man’s first contact with an alien and a boy growing up with two fathers. Can you talk about the themes that you wanted to explore with your screenplay and the process of developing the story with Christopher Nolan to reboot the franchise?

David S. Goyer: Yea. I can’t say much about that other than Superman is an incredibly well known iconic figure and I think my challenge was to try to figure that out. To a certain extent he is sort of cinematically frozen in amber, I mean a lot of people when they think of Superman they think of the (Richard) Donner films, and its been thirty-five years or so since the first Donner film came out. It’s been a long time and the world has moved on. I loved those movies and my goal was to figure out away to recontextualize him perhaps and figure out how to make him relatable. I thought, even though he is inhuman and he is an alien, if I can find a way to humanize him then hopefully I will have done my job and people will care about him. He is a tough character because he is invulnerable so you have to give him emotional vulnerabilities and hopefully that way he can become more accessible to the audience.

Since you have been a comic book writer and have worked on comic book adapted movies for so long, did you feel that your extensive knowledge of comic book folklore and the mythology of this character helped you in writing the screenplay?

Goyer: It did help! Although, writing Batman Begins, even Da Vinci’s Demons, and now Superman, I mean yes, I would go to the comic books but I would also call from a lot of sources that don’t have anything to do with comic books. I read a lot of mythic poems and versus for Superman, Beowulf and Gilgamesh, hero legends and things like that. Not just comic books.

Did you have a lot of involvement with director Zack Snyder during production?

Goyer: Yea, I was involved a lot. I was on the set about half the time. We kind of overlapped with Da Vinci’s Demons but I would come and go. I love Zack to death and he’s a blast to work with.

When you were on set and saw Henry Cavill in the iconic Superman suit for the first time, what was your initial reaction?

Goyer: Henry is also a really nice guy and it’s not always that way. I was like, holy crap that’s Superman! I mean I tell my sons that I work with Superman and Batman. I went and visited the set with my six year-old and I timed it so that Henry was in the suit. We showed up and he was like, “Wow, you do work with Superman!” So I got a lot of cred with my kids for that.

What did you think about Snyder’s choice to cast Laurence Fishburne as Perry White, making him the first African American to ever play the role in a live-action film, and the online controversy that it sparked with the fans?

Goyer: I thought it was an awesome choice. I think that it is silly that
people are like, “You can’t have a black guy named White.” But I’m like, well what about Barry White? I thought that was stupid. You just want to get the best actor.

There have been rumors that the Jimmy Olsen character has been changed to a female, can you address that issue?

Goyer: I can’t comment on that.

Can you talk about your decision to not include Lex Luthor in Man of Steel?

Goyer: I don’t think anyone has ever confirmed that we haven’t included him.

Have you planned Man of Steel as a trilogy, and if not, do you currently have ideas for future sequels?

Goyer: I haven’t planned a trilogy. That I sort of took from Chris (Nolan). He always says, “Put everything you have in this film and worry about the sequel once the movie is done.”

As a fan of the source material, are there classic characters from the Superman mythology that you would like to introduce in possible sequels?

Goyer: Sure, but I won’t say who they are.

Do you want to keep that a secret for now?

Goyer: … The Wonder Twins.

http://www.iamrogue.com/news/interv...he-invisible-man-and-the-legacy-of-blade.html

The corners of my mouth definitely curled when reading his Luthor answer.

 

[Smallville13]

Tor-An is played by Rich Cerrone.

Who?