All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 37

[JimJimBinks]

yea they was fan friendly cause they knew they had a bad movie and wanted to make a big hype to make as many money they can.With MOS is diferent,propably they have made the best superhero movie ever,and they want to hide a lot from the story,and make fan delighted when they see the movie,and make them want to see it again.I strongly believe that.

That makes no sense at all. I'm sure you know that and you're just trolling. But they were fan friendly from the start of production not just during the last few months of marketing.
Despite what you think, they thought they had a hit movie from the get go, or they wouldn't have spent so much on it.

 

[JimJimBinks]

The steel guitar should be very interesting. It was actually used a lot in the Brokeback Mountain score. It's most commonly associated with country music though so I understand why people are a little nervous. I'm kinda excited.

 

[C. Lee]

Of course you are being ridiculous because I never said I'm going to die or that WB wants the movie to fail.

And of course you are being ridiculous because I never singled you out....I was commenting on the posts made by many people in here.

This thread is about talking about stuff and that includes the marketing. You can say you think the marketing is awesome or bad.

And I can also say that I think some of the comments made by posters about said marketing is pretty darn ridiculously funny to me.

Of course you are free to chat about how movies were marketed back when Americans had to use seperate water fountains.

Thank you for your permission. It brings my heart much joy.

I try not to live too much in the past

I don't LIVE in the past...I just enjoy visiting it and telling young whippersnappers about it....because as they say, those that do not know of the past are doomed to relive it.

because frankly a lot of the pass sucked.

A lot of the past sucked...a lot of the present sucks....and I dare say a lot of the future will suck. But I at least do not ignore it.

 

[Simo]

Well celebrating my birthday tomorrow but went in to work today and found my colleagues got me a cake to celebrate early....t:

I also picked up the new Action Comics today (some nice art in this one, not bad an issue giving the circumstances) and it has a folding gatefold cover which on the other side has DC recommending classic Superman trades to get ready for MOS such as...

• Superman Earth One: Vol 1 & 2
• Superman: Last Son of Krypton
• Superman: For Tomorrow
• All Star Superman
• New 52 Action Comics Vol 1: Superman & The Men of Steel

At least two of those trades feature General Zod.

Before anyone mentions Superman: Birthright not on their list its because it seems to be no longer in print. I guess I was lucky to snag one from B&N a month ago when I did.

 

[C. Lee]

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Sadly, the Internet has spoiled me and thus my already limited patience gives way to fanboy despair when I don't get new stuff for extended periods of time.

But old man, I still ride my bike 12 miles to get to work so !!!!

You have a bike to ride!?!? In my day we had to walk....with no shoes....through the snow!!!!!!

 

[C. Lee]

Well celebrating my birthday tomorrow but went in to work today and found my colleagues got me a cake to celebrate early....t:

That's cool....you have nice colleagues.

 

[Enriquespy]

You have a bike to ride!?!? In my day we had to walk....with no shoes....through the snow!!!!!!

In my days the snow was made of legos!!!!!





Nice cake by the way, congrats Simo!

 

[ThePhantasm]

My life moves on just fine whether I get more MOS marketing tomorrow or not. I have other films I'm excited about too, and as a researcher I have deadlines I have to meet to look forward to (or dread) as well. So my life moves on with or without MOS.

That said, I think that MOS' marketing stinks. A few decades ago it would be fine, sure, but for these times it is insufficient. Like it or not, the advent of social networking (not to mention the new blockbuster marketing paradigm created back in 1989) has changed the way films are marketed. Look at Iron Man 3 and TASM and whatnot, and the marketing that they are undertaking... that's your standard superhero movie marketing. Anything less risks being drowned out in the swamp of media vying for the GA's attention each and every day.

Could marketing shift back to the days of old? Sure it could. The shift might even be welcomed by many. But to attempt to bring about that shift on the back of a huge budgeted film like MOS is tremendously risky.

Lastly, creating a media frenzy about a movie creates profit. Batman 1989's high-octane marketing worked not only because it sold the film, but because it sold 3/4ths of a billion dollars worth of merchandise as well. It really seems to me WB is wasting an opportunity here.

 

[Simo]

Cheers! t:

The crystal base on the figurine actually lights up. Ah technology these days...lighted cakes and all that.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I actually imagine Zimmer doing something similar to this for the SV scenes:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVbwaHTuLvE

Oh, I actually like that a lot. Never would have guessed they were even the same instrument. The piano is prevalent there as well though...hope it's used in MOS as well.

 

[Mysteryman]

Oh, I actually like that a lot. Never would have guessed they were even the same instrument. The piano is prevalent there as well though...hope it's used in MOS as well.

I could live with that .
Very Nice .

 

[Mysteryman]

Well celebrating my birthday tomorrow but went in to work today and found my colleagues got me a cake to celebrate early....t:

I also picked up the new Action Comics today (some nice art in this one, not bad an issue giving the circumstances) and it has a folding gatefold cover which on the other side has DC recommending classic Superman trades to get ready for MOS such as...

• Superman Earth One: Vol 1 & 2
• Superman: Last Son of Krypton
• Superman: For Tomorrow
• All Star Superman
• New 52 Action Comics Vol 1: Superman & The Men of Steel

At least two of those trades feature General Zod.

Before anyone mentions Superman: Birthright not on their list its because it seems to be no longer in print. I guess I was lucky to snag one from B&N a month ago when I did.

Cool Cake.
Your friends obviously know you quite well.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

because as they say, those that do not know of the past are doomed to relive it.

He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past.

 

[ThePhantasm]

yeah that cake is super

 

[Mysteryman]

That makes no sense at all. I'm sure you know that and you're just trolling. But they were fan friendly from the start of production not just during the last few months of marketing.
Despite what you think, they thought they had a hit movie from the get go, or they wouldn't have spent so much on it.

Yeah, Singer even made Video Diaries .
I remember fans getting quite upset as The Diaries slowed down When Singer got deeper into post production.

 

[MrMaooz]

So in other news... Final Four is today. I expect Star Trek and IM3 but no MOS.

 

[ThePhantasm]

One should never expect MOS.

 

[Mysteryman]

Thanks for reminding me.
I will watch, you never know.

 

[gomez147]

Marketing of TDKR at 2 months and 10 days before release:

Spoiler

Edit: Marketing of MOS until today:

Spoiler

(I had to exclude aaaaall the fanart)

 

[Kevin Smith]

Say what you will about Superman Returns, but John Ottman's score was very good. The movie's strongest point if you ask me. If MOS' score is anywhere close to what Ottman did, I will be happy. (even if it's not the Williams theme)

 

[Dr.]

Lastly, creating a media frenzy about a movie creates profit. Batman 1989's high-octane marketing worked not only because it sold the film, but because it sold 3/4ths of a billion dollars worth of merchandise as well. It really seems to me WB is wasting an opportunity here.

I don’t recall any “high-octane” marketing for B89 that was over-and-above normal levels. To be sure, there was a tremendous amount of buzz. But much of this was generated by word-of-mouth and media coverage - not because of marketing geniuses. I remember an article about an artificial “box office bounce” that Pink Cadillac (a bad Clint Eastwood flick) received. Turns out, many were buying tickets to it, only to leave after the trailers played. Batman was one of the trailers. Terrific publicity (for Batman, at least) - and the kind you can’t buy.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Say what you will about Superman Returns, but John Ottman's score was very good. The movie's strongest point if you ask me. If MOS' score is anywhere close to what Ottman did, I will be happy. (even if it's not the Williams theme)

It probably won't be. Unfortunately it is likely to be more of Zimmer's latest wall-of-sound experimentation. I'll be pleasantly surprised if Zimmer returns to his earlier style of leitmotif composition, something he hasn't done in a long time.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I don’t recall any “high-octane” marketing for B89 that was over-and-above normal levels. To be sure, there was a tremendous amount of buzz. But much of this was generated by word-of-mouth and media coverage - not because of marketing geniuses. I remember an article about an artificial “box office bounce” that Pink Cadillac (a bad Clint Eastwood flick) received. Turns out, many were buying tickets to it, only to leave after the trailers played. Batman was one of the trailers. Terrific publicity (for Batman, at least) - and the kind you can’t buy.

Batman '89 started marketing almost a year before the film's release... an unprecedented early start. After that everything was saturated with the marketing and with the Bat-Symbol. It was huge. Granted, not as huge as some marketing strategies today, but for its time it was really something new.

 

[C. Lee]

In my days the snow was made of legos!!!!!

In my day you had to carve your own legos

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Marketing of TDKR at 2 months and 10 days before release:

Spoiler

Edit: Marketing of MOS until today:

Spoiler

(I had to exclude aaaaall the fanart)

You've missed rather a lot off the MOS side... the official pic of Jor-el isn't even in there.