All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 49

[mclay18]

I think with After Earth moving up a week, I think WB will move Man of Steel up a week as well. Wouldn't surprise me.

 

[G.Godfrey]

I think with After Earth moving up a week, I think WB will move Man of Steel up a week as well. Wouldn't surprise me.

I bet Sony will move This is the End to 7th now. I don't think WB will move anything. They are way too confident for that.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

I bet Sony will move This is the End to 7th now. I don't think WB will move anything. They are way too confident for that.

The release date for the film is too close to change for my taste as well. Let the lesser films move and change their dates.

 

[dark_b]

I actually like the dragonfly shot. It looks like something from LOTR. It reminds me how much Hobbit would have looked better if shot on film.

but this is a 100% CGI shot.

 

[Kane52630]

I bet Sony will move This is the End to 7th now. I don't think WB will move anything. They are way too confident for that.

Maybe they will push it up a few days and release it on Wednesday. It's happened before.

 

[chintai80]

those opening scenes of krypton in the trailer remind me of mars from the john carter movie...t:
...and that's a good thing!

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

Updated cleaner version of the trailer music, little to no dialogue echo this time.

https://soundcloud.com/antovolk/hans-zimmer-man-of-steel

Via Antovolk!

 

[fake]

Maybe they will push it up a few days and release it on Wednesday. It's happened before.

"This is the End" is already slotted for Wednesday the 12th, moving it to the 7th won't be that big a deal: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=rogenhilluntitled.htm

 

[Nemeres]

Does anyone get a Donner vibe watching the new trailer ? cause I DON'T.
I grew up with the first 2 Donner films. Hell, I sight seeing Donner's first film when i was 5, as the reason I became fascinated with film.
But to say that this re-interpretation is basically a remake of Superman 1 and 2 just seems to me, to be a unsubstantial argument, and quite honestly, seems to be a over-reaching point of view.
Nolan is helping Synder do exactly what he did with Batman
Where there elements in Nolan's film that were reflective of past incarnations ? Yes, but very few. Could Joker's hit me scene be reminiscent of Jack Nicholson's line in Burton's film ? Yes.
What i am trying to say is, while there may be "familiar" elements of previous incarnations of Superman in Man of Steel, calling MOS a remake of Donner's first two films, is such a fallacy.

But it's the same logic behind a remake, isn't it? The same characters, the same basic story, only told in a different way. It escapes the 'remake' label because you can use the excuse that they're not remaking the film, they're just taking inspiration from the same source material - the comics. Which is true, but in the movie realm, and on movie terms, it's kind of a remake.

Nothing wrong with that, though. Remakes can be soulless rehashes with nothing new to add to the original, but it's more than obvious that MOS is aiming for a novel spin. It can turn out better or worse, but it will be different enough.

 

[DarkKnight FTW]

NOW YOU SEE ME has now moved from June 7 to May 31. And I don't really think MU will have that large of an effect on MOS. It will open well but I just don't see it really denting the MOS audience if its as good as being reported.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

The music sounds way more heroic listening to the new version of that track.

 

[DarkKnight FTW]

Plus I expect MOS to have great Summer legs.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

We'll see how fit and strong those legs are (excuse that expression, haha) on June 21st when MU hits.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

But it's the same logic behind a remake, isn't it? The same characters, the same basic story, only told in a different way. It escapes the 'remake' label because you can use the excuse that they're not remaking the film, they're just taking inspiration from the same source material - the comics. Which is true, but in the movie realm, and on movie terms, it's kind of a remake.

Nothing wrong with that, though. Remakes can be soulless rehashes with nothing new to add to the original, but it's more than obvious that MOS is aiming for a novel spin. It can turn out better or worse, but it will be different enough.

So would you argue then, that Nolan's film trilogy were remakes as well ?

Yes, it will definitely distance itself.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

Plus I expect MOS to have great Summer legs.

I see it having strong legs yes. Longevity is key.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

Updated cleaner version of the trailer music, little to no dialogue echo this time.

https://soundcloud.com/antovolk/hans-zimmer-man-of-steel

Via Antovolk!

 

[BH/HHH]

The trailer has really made me believe this film will be a big hit.

I really wish they would move it up a week but it won't happen

 

[X Knight]

doesn't the date of June 14th have some kind of significance in Superman history?

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Krypton's totally a CGI shot. But it has a "film style" to it. The shots of Clark walking in the artic are epic.

 

[Nemeres]

So would you argue then, that Nolan's film trilogy were remakes as well ?

Yes, it will definitely distance itself.

It's a little different, though, because it's not only about putting the same characters together in a film. MOS will contain the destruction of the planet, the childhood, the discovery phase, the 1st Superman outing, then the alien invasion, the fight... it's not only the same characters, it's the same plot points. TDK, not being an origin story, didn't have a mold to fit into the same way MOS does.

 

[The Batman]

Does anyone get a Donner vibe watching the new trailer ? cause I DON'T.
I grew up with the first 2 Donner films. Hell, I sight seeing Donner's first film when i was 5, as the reason I became fascinated with film.
But to say that this re-interpretation is basically a remake of Superman 1 and 2 just seems to me, to be a unsubstantial argument, and quite honestly, seems to be a over-reaching point of view.
Nolan is helping Synder do exactly what he did with Batman
Where there elements in Nolan's film that were reflective of past incarnations ? Yes, but very few. Could Joker's hit me scene be reminiscent of Jack Nicholson's line in Burton's film ? Yes.
What i am trying to say is, while there may be "familiar" elements of previous incarnations of Superman in Man of Steel, calling MOS a remake of Donner's first two films, is such a fallacy.

Is this in reference to the comments made by Showtime and Jamie, two guys with insider info and not just a poster who wants everyone to feel the same way he/she does about things?

 

[ConnorKon-El]

It's a little different, though, because it's not only about putting the same characters together in a film. MOS will contain the destruction of the planet, the childhood, the discovery phase, the 1st Superman outing, then the alien invasion, the fight... it's not only the same characters, it's the same plot points. TDK, not being an origin story, didn't have a mold to fit into the same way MOS does.

To an extent i agree. So , I assume you hope that if we get a sequel, then the filmmakers can cover plot points never displayed on film before ?
Because Begins had certain plot points that had been displayed on screen before. But it was largely fresh and new, and i'm hoping that's what MOS can accomplish.
I am not arguing that MOS will have plot elements that have been displayed on film before. I am arguing that the plot elements that are familiar, will be covered in a completely new light, and thus, will have not Donner vibes attached to them. I just don't think it's fair for something to watch the new trailer, and then say it reminds them of Donner's films. I just don't understand that, when it's obvious the vibe of this film will be completely different than Richard's.

 

[Super Kal]

Updated cleaner version of the trailer music, little to no dialogue echo this time.

https://soundcloud.com/antovolk/hans-zimmer-man-of-steel

Via Antovolk!

the link isn't there anymore anyone get to download it?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't care what you call MOS, I just hope it's a great movie.

 

[TDK elbowstrike]

So Ive heard that in this movie, Kryptonians live mostly under the surface of the planet and only come out to travel or attack each other. Wonder why that is?

I have so many questions about Krypton. Why the ban on interstellar travel? What were Kryptons plans for Earth? They obviously visited before, and the FOS has been on earth for who knows how long.

And why, when all other Kryptonians use their advanced tech to create "perfect" children with preordained paths in life, did the smartest Kryptonian Jor-El think it a wise decision to create a child the "old fashioned way"? He had to know it would cause chaos amongst his people. Why did he think it was so important? I dont buy that baby Kal-El was an accident, not if he is the ONLY natural birth in centuries.

So many questions...my head hurts now.