All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 58

[Mysteryman]

Whats with his facial expression?
he looks confused

 

[SpideyFan866]

Said this in the Justice League forum but it also applies here so I'll restate my view on the whole matter.

WB needs to take their time with MOS and other DC properties individually and then go ahead and make the JL.

No it isn't "copying" Marvel but simple world building and common sense. Making something like this without a single shred of an existing background (or only using MOS as a base and possibly jeopardizing the former on untested and questionable waters) has to be one of the most ill conceived ideas that I've heard of in a while.

There are two groups I feel that support this project with its haphazard developed base. Those who are desperate to see the JL at all cost regardless of quality and WB who's trying to make Avengers type money.

WB should give Superman his own time to shine in his own franchise and dedicate their time in developing the rest of the DC gallery of heroes that have been left to rot all these years. Then and only then should they even consider tackling the Justice League. Putting all these characters on the line at a blatant attempt for a quick buck is not the road that should be followed.

I don't agree. Now I don't think that they should rush the development of JLA, script/story wise, HOWEVER, doing it the Marvel way and releasing individual films for each character and then releasing JLA just won't work IMO.

When it comes to DC, I feel they would be better off introducing (or rather reintroducing) the likes of Green Lantern, Flash, Wonder Woman, etc. alongside Superman and Batman who will have already been firmly established.

Introducing them in JLA, (ala, say, The New Frontier) they can show the characters off and THEN use the built in interest from JLA to spin the characters off into their own films.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I don't agree. Now I do think that they should rush the development of JLA, script/story wise, HOWEVER, doing it the Marvel way and releasing individual films for each character and then releasing JLA just won't work IMO.

When it comes to DC, I feel they would be better off introducing (or rather reintroducing) the likes of Green Lantern, Flash, Wonder Woman, etc. alongside Superman and Batman who will have already been firmly established.

Introducing them in JLA, (ala, say, The New Frontier) they can show the characters off and THEN use the built in interest from JLA to spin the characters off into their own films.

Good points, and I do agree.

 

[titansupes]

Slightly off-topic: Does anybody have any super high quality caps of Superman floating all majestically from the National Guard promo released a couple of days ago?

 

[redhawk23]

I know I'm going to get killed for this but I think that Whedon still has some T.V director sensibilities. This isn't a prop up Man of Steel post, I said the same thing in the Avengers thread.

I like Whedon though and I liked a lot about certain moments during the Avengers action sequence at the end. Snyder has his faults as well but he isn't even slightly a T.V director.

I thought on the whole Black handled the Iron Man 3 action scenes better than any other director in the Marvel verse has handled theirs. I thought that Thor easily had the worst. Hopefully the next film can fix that.

Eh, most of the fight scene at the end was just colored light zooming around.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

Slightly off-topic: Does anybody have any super high quality caps of Superman floating all majestically from the National Guard promo released a couple of days ago?

Spoiler

 

[747]

Anyone else thinks that the huge mo-cap guy in the Smallville battle is – a version of – Nam-Ek? In the comics a huge mutant guy, imprisoned in Phantom Zone.

Pre mutation

Mutated:

 

[Dark Sentinel]

Has anyone heard anything through the grapevines when the cast will start making the talk show rounds?

 

[titansupes]

Spoiler

Yes! Thanks very much.

 

[titansupes]

Has anyone heard anything through the grapevines when the cast will start making the talk show rounds?

Your avatar is absurdly mesmerising.

 

[Pickleweasel]

They should have JJ Abrams direct a Green Lantern movie. I think they should have 3 characters established before JL. Batman is established whether they reboot him before or after the JL movie, everyone knows Batman. Superman will be established because of MOS and even without MOS people know Superman. Then I really think they should either have a Flash, GL, or WW movie before JL, and I think that a Green Lantern movie has the most potential of being a big box office hit IMO. Abrams seems to have a good grasp on the whole space/alien concept and I think he is a very talented dude. A good Green Lantern could do numbers, of course, good superhero movies in general can do good numbers, so WW and Flash could be hits too.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

Your avatar is absurdly mesmerising.

It's a reflection of my absurdly mesmerizing personality

Thanks. Definitely one of my favorite shots thus far. Can't wait to see it on screen.

 

[titansupes]

They should have JJ Abrams direct a Green Lantern movie. I think they should have 3 characters established before JL. Batman is established whether they reboot him before or after the JL movie, everyone knows Batman. Superman will be established because of MOS and even without MOS people know Superman. Then I really think they should either have a Flash, GL, or WW movie before JL, and I think that a Green Lantern movie has the most potential of being a big box office hit IMO. Abrams seems to have a good grasp on the whole space/alien concept and I think he is a very talented dude. A good Green Lantern could do numbers, of course, good superhero movies in general can do good numbers, so WW and Flash could be hits too.

Abrams will have his hands full for a couple of years. And I'd doubt he'd want to do it. Especially when you consider it would be him resurrecting a space-based franchise after poorly received last efforts for the third time in a handful of years.

Get a good script (Goyer involved in some capacity) in the hands of the Oblivion/Tron guy and see what you get, I think.

 

[MrMaooz]

Has anyone heard anything through the grapevines when the cast will start making the talk show rounds?

Those should probably start June 1st.

 

[titansupes]

Those should probably start June 1st.

They SHOULD start about then. Which means WB will leave it 'til what, the 12th?

 

[Dark Sentinel]

On the topic of a potential JL film, I think WB needs to follow what Robinov said years ago when IM first came out: focus on trying to make one good movie at a time.

That being said, if they do go for a Justice League megafranchise, I think they should use it as an opportunity to cast some very talented, currently unknown actors in the roles of GL, Flash, and WW, for two reasons:

1. It would keep costs down and allow them to focus on story and special effects (before you bash, think about it: if done right, SFX can contribute heavily to story, setting, AND the characters' individual abilities).

2. They would be great breakout roles for said unknown actors, allowing JL to branch off into individual films and franchises. Everybody knows Hal's origin, and most people have some knowledge of Barry's origin, so the important story beat for JL will be their coming together and building these relationships.

3. As for Batman, this would be an opportunity to create a very interesting character that' completely new from the TDKT Batman that Bale portrayed. I personally would like to see a Batman like JL: Doom, who, even though a mere human, is wickedly smart and maybe even a little paranoid of all these superhumans, so ome leg of a JL trilogy could basically be built on Batman's journey from distrust to acceptance.

Just some random thoughts of mine.

 

[MrMaooz]

They SHOULD start about then. Which means WB will leave it 'til what, the 12th?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

It's a reflection of my absurdly mesmerizing personality

Thanks. Definitely one of my favorite shots thus far. Can't wait to see it on screen.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

TV spot #3 on Youtube is just several views away from reaching a million views. t:

 

[Smallville13]

So after MOS or MOS2 they do a JL film with the other 5 or so heroes cast unknown actors and have it that they are already established and operating in this world. Have a big evil like Darkseid to rally them all together. And then following that break off into going back and doing their origin stories. That's what people want?

Ugh.

 

[Misha]

I realized yesterday I'm a MOS-aholic t:

Anyway, I think now is the time to stop seeing new stuff before I really spoil the movie one footage too many. Have fun guys! I'll be back once I've watched the movie, and here's hope we will all be in heaven by that point

 

[Travesty]

On the topic of a potential JL film, I think WB needs to follow what Robinov said years ago when IM first came out: focus on trying to make one good movie at a time.

That being said, if they do go for a Justice League megafranchise, I think they should use it as an opportunity to cast some very talented, currently unknown actors in the roles of GL, Flash, and WW, for two reasons:

1. It would keep costs down and allow them to focus on story and special effects (before you bash, think about it: if done right, SFX can contribute heavily to story, setting, AND the characters' individual abilities).

2. They would be great breakout roles for said unknown actors, allowing JL to branch off into individual films and franchises. Everybody knows Hal's origin, and most people have some knowledge of Barry's origin, so the important story beat for JL will be their coming together and building these relationships.

3. As for Batman, this would be an opportunity to create a very interesting character that' completely new from the TDKT Batman that Bale portrayed. I personally would like to see a Batman like JL: Doom, who, even though a mere human, is wickedly smart and maybe even a little paranoid of all these superhumans, so ome leg of a JL trilogy could basically be built on Batman's journey from distrust to acceptance.

Just some random thoughts of mine.

My thoughts exactly!

 

[Mysteryman]

Bye for now, Misha.
Good Luck with that addiction!

 

[X Knight]

I love this image too. The people behind him are squinting and cowering looking scared, but Clark is standing there with the chest puffed out and a steely look of determination as if to say "bring it on!"

YES!!!

and........he is also wearing his KU shirt!!! t:

 

[X Knight]

I realized yesterday I'm a MOS-aholic t:

Anyway, I think now is the time to stop seeing new stuff before I really spoil the movie one footage too many. Have fun guys! I'll be back once I've watched the movie, and here's hope we will all be in heaven by that point

awwww.......bye Misha.

hope you really enjoy the movie and that we will have many great things to talk about when you get back.

in the meantime, we will all hold down the fort in your absence!! t: