All Things Superman: An Open Discussion

[Dark Knight]

lol....i thought i was the only one that noticed that, it seems like noones said anything but you about that

There is plenty of others who have noticed it. That's bad CGI.

 

[Dark Knight]

Laugh all you want about Cap, but that is probably going to be the highest grosser among the 4 comic book films.

Why?

Domestically maybe. Internationally and overall? Maybe not.....

 

[Wheels]

I'm going to see Cap and Green Lantern, which is more than I can say for Thor.

 

[Herolee10]

So here's a question for anyone interested in answering this:

Should Zod and Superman be presented as the only kryptonians on Earth? Or should they actually go down the route that SV had taken, and have Zod arrive on Earth with a legion of Kryptonians for a kryptonian invasion?

Personally, I would just prefer Zod to be the only kryptonian menace on Earth since, if you really do add two more members to his group, then there would be more complaints that it’s a rip off of Superman II.

Furthermore, if you gave Zod an army of kryptonians, then one must wonder on how the heck will Clark be able to defeat them all without the usage of something special from the FOS?
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[djingo]

Laugh all you want about Cap, but that is probably going to be the highest grosser among the 4 comic book films.

Like others have said before, in the US it can be a big movie but over here in Europe Captain America is a big nobody for the great audience.
And don't forget, it's the great audience that decides if a movie is gonna be a succes or not.
Plus here in Europe we don't jump to the cinema for every superheromovie. Before a superheromovie is succesfull here we must know the figure like Batman, X-men, Spiderman, Hulk and offcourse Superman.

annyway, what i was trying to say is: The studio must go huge, reallll huge with the promotion if they want to make that movie succesfull in Europe.

 

[Sabaoth]

So here's a question for anyone interested in answering this:

Should Zod and Superman be presented as the only kryptonians on Earth? Or should they actually go down the route that SV had taken, and have Zod arrive on Earth with a legion of Kryptonians for a kryptonian invasion?

Personally, I would just prefer Zod to be the only kryptonian menace on Earth since, if you really do add two more members to his group, then there would be more complaints that it’s a rip off of Superman II.

Furthermore, if you gave Zod an army of kryptonians, then one must wonder on how the heck will Clark be able to defeat them all without the usage of something special from the FOS?
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I think we are getting an Earth-One type story or something we NEVER expected.
With the main difference being that instead of that corpse painted alien dude, we are getting Zod, Ursa, and maybe Non.
Maybe Krypton did not blow up in this version, Brainiac conquered Krypton and Jor El sent Kal-El to earth to protect him from Brainiac's rule.
Clark is living amongst the humans until Brainiac sends an exploratory force, consisting of Zod, Non, and Ursa to prepare an invasion of earth, and he is forced to become Superman.
He remains torn between two worlds, Krypton (where he came from) and Earth (who he is), and not trusted by either.
So Superman would be as earth's defender from alien forces (even though he is one of them).

 

[Zack Snyder]

Superman can easily be as big worldwide, it just needs a modern take... Which we are getting.

 

[Doc Ock]

Superman can easily be as big worldwide, it just needs a modern take... Which we are getting.

I just feel Superman isn't as know as he once was if you could believe that. I don't like to admit it. But Spiderman and Batman seem to be more popular now. At least for the kids. I know plenty of adults who love Superman though, so I have hope Supes will be HUGE!

 

[Zack Snyder]

Because Spidey and Batman had modern takes for their films. Superman hasn't had that... Until MOS hits theatres. This is what will truly bring him back imo. SR was too rooted in Donnerville and didn't restart the character so to speak. We are getting that experience this time around though.

 

[Doc Ock]

Because Spidey and Batman had modern takes for their films. Superman hasn't had that... Until MOS hits theatres. This is what will truly bring him back imo. SR was too rooted in Donnerville and didn't restart the character so to speak. We are getting that experience this time around though.

That does make sense. I have faith!

 

[Herolee10]

I think we are getting an Earth-One type story or something we NEVER expected.
With the main difference being that instead of that corpse painted alien dude, we are getting Zod, Ursa, and maybe Non.
Maybe Krypton did not blow up in this version, Brainiac conquered Krypton and Jor El sent Kal-El to earth to protect him from Brainiac's rule.
Clark is living amongst the humans until Brainiac sends an exploratory force, consisting of Zod, Non, and Ursa to prepare an invasion of earth, and he is forced to become Superman.
He remains torn between two worlds, Krypton (where he came from) and Earth (who he is), and not trusted by either.
So Superman would be as earth's defender from alien forces (even though he is one of them).

Idk...personally, a route like that could be more harmful than better. One of the things that gives Superman's character weight imho, is that he's essentially the last of his kind (if you don't include the prisoners in the PZ that is), hence why he has the title "the Last son of krypton".

If they presented a world where Superman could easily reconnect with his own kryptonian people, then that's one thing lost from the character imho.

And if you include a huge army of kryptonians, that could end up being very costly as well.

 

[JAK®]

There is plenty of others who have noticed it. That's bad CGI.

Bad CGI? You sure you just can't separate what Chris Evans really looks like from your mind?

 

[Willi Berg]

From the latest Latino Review news, it sounds like it's Kryptonians from the Phantom Zone (?)

( http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-man-of-steel-will-reveal-a-new-krypton-more-13234 )

 

[Zack Snyder]

That does make sense. I have faith!

Thanks. We are lucky, everything is lining up correctly this time.

 

[moviedoors]

Bad CGI? You sure you just can't separate what Chris Evans really looks like from your mind?

I really don't get the criticisms either. Sure, I knew immediately it was CG, but that's only because it has to be. I'm personally rather astonished at how good it looks. If I hadn't been following the production I venture to say it may have even fooled me.

 

[GreenKToo]

One good film is all it will take, just one, for folks to jump back on the bandwagon..
If its a big success, the same ones who are now saying he is irrelevant will be bragging how they have always been a huge fan.

 

[JAK®]

I really don't get the criticisms either. Sure, I knew immediately it was CG, but that's only because it has to be. I'm personally rather astonished at how good it looks. If I hadn't been following the production I venture to say it may have even fooled me.

Yeah, people at that height and weight look pretty weird.

 

[Willi Berg]

 

[Marvin]

Darksied and doomsday would be interesting villains to shake up the franchise but I believe they would fall into the logical progression of the story in terms of escalation. I'd hate for them to do Darksied first and have no where to go by down or side ways after that.

Secondly, I hope and pray that they keep both metallo and parasite out of the films, the last thing we need is more smallville like scenarios with superman without his powers.

All that being said, Brainiac would have probably been the better choice in this case. If they are going the nolan route. The first picture of the reboot should have an fresh villain that is tied to the books but has never really been explored on screen ala Ra's al goul. The first film presenting a universe the general audience is hyped about, then you and only then do you use name recognition to sell the sequel. We haven't really ever seen a super hero vs AI film before. And it would tie back to Krypton in perhaps a more intimate way. However it's superman vs a robot might not be the best selling point for a dramatic picture.

I hate this issue people are raising all over the place about having seen Zod before? If memory serves Joker has been seen perhaps more than any villain in history yet that didn't stop that film from being awesome mainly due to his involvement. The issue shouldn't be how fresh is the villain, it should be how appropriate is he. All bias aside Zod is an amazing foil and with Snyder at the helm, I expect a matrix 3 like finale to satisfy the visual void this franchise has been lacking...that being said, Brainiac would probably be a better choice for that as well.

One final note, Lex will be in this movie(the producers would be idiots if they didn't include him). I can't wait to hear all the fan outcry when he is announced lol.

 

[GreenKToo]

Lex should, and probably will, be there. Lex-corp should be as well.

 

[Compi716]

I'm not sure if this sort of idea has already been posted, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say it anyway:

I have a feeling they're using the classic storyline of two Kryptonians coming to Earth and trying to remake it in Krypton's image. Image the issue of All-Star Superman, but without the happy ending, or more precisely, the 'Blasts From the Past' episodes of Superman: TAS with Jax-Ur and Mala.

 

[--Zero-Ethic--]

A friend of mine isn't into Superman at all and always says the same thing "he's too over-powered"
There's most likely a lot of people who share the opinion so I can't wait to see them bring in the big villains who haven't had a shot like Brainiac, Darkseid, Doomsday and Metallo.

But also, I hope the film addresses Superman's awareness of the scale of his strength, and that he knows he must control himself at all times to limit possible injuries to others.

 

[The Caped Knight]

From the latest Latino Review news, it sounds like it's Kryptonians from the Phantom Zone (?)

( http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-man-of-steel-will-reveal-a-new-krypton-more-13234 )

Being that the "Man of Steel" is a reboot/origin story or whatever you want to call it, they will show you the whole story all over again. Well not the way Richard Donner showed you but it will have some sort of similarities to "Batman Begins."

Here is what my source told me:

• You will see JOR-EL and his wife, Lara.
• Daniel Day-Lewis was looked at for JOR-EL and not the villain.
  
• Krypton will not be a crystal planet like the Donner film; this Krypton will PROBABLY look like the Coruscant skyline from Star Wars. (See image below)
• The Kryptonian villainess is not URSA...Well sort of. The villainess is FAORA.

I love it, Finally we get a new version of Krypton that more of an architectural design.

DDL is prefect for a young Jor-EL , I can not wait to see who is cast as Lara. t:

 

[DarkKnight FTW]

I love it, Finally we get a new version of Krypton that more of an architectural design.

DDL is prefect for a young Jor-EL , I can not wait to see who is cast as Lara. t:

Fixed

 

[JAK®]

DDL is prefect for a young Jor-EL , I can not wait to see who is casted as Lara. t: