BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion - - - Part 101

[fake]

It's no different then Avengers which had to:

• Explain why Stark is a member when he was rejected in IM2
• Explain how Thor comes to Earth since the bridge was destroyed
• Explain where Hulk is
• Introduce Hawkeye
• Tell why Loki is the villain
• Show what Cap's doing

Weirdly enough, the answer to all of the above questions in the movie was "Because... reasons".

 

[rockandrollsoul]

It's no different then Avengers which had to:

• Explain why Stark is a member when he was rejected in IM2
• Explain how Thor comes to Earth since the bridge was destroyed
• Explain where Hulk is
• Introduce Hawkeye
• Tell why Loki is the villain
• Show what Cap's doing

IMO, it didn't really do a good job at any of these things. For the record, I really enjoy The Avengers for what it is: a fun, entertaining, action movie. The script, however, left a lot to be desired and I definitely don't think it's a tough standard to beat as far as team-ups go. Again, just my opinion.

 

[Silliminite]

It's no different then Avengers which had to:

• Explain why Stark is a member when he was rejected in IM2
• Explain how Thor comes to Earth since the bridge was destroyed
• Explain where Hulk is
• Introduce Hawkeye
• Tell why Loki is the villain
• Show what Cap's doing

The circumstances under which the two movies were scripted are different. The Avengers was the culmination of that phase, whereas BvS is in many ways the starting point.

 

[Wheels]

Isn't it kind of repetitive to have Hardy as another DC villain so close to TDKR? I'm not saying he wouldn't be fantastic in the role- but the guy was just Bane. (Although since his face was covered up the entire movie I guess it doesn't matter).

Don't mind me- I'm just arguing wih myself.

I don't really care to be honest. Nolan's Batman series is not connected to the DCCU. Plus, it's not as big a deal as using Bale, Oldman, or Caine because Hardy only did one film.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Weirdly enough, the answer to all of the above questions in the movie was "Because... reasons".

Yea. The one thing that pissed me off in Avengers was Hulk's transformation.

In Incredible Hulk, it seemed Banner can kind of control Hulk. Then in Avengers, Banner somehow becomes Hulk but can't control it. Then in the end he controls it and transforms at a perfect time. So now he can transform at his will whenever he wants? Complete ********.

I remember during Waid's Hulk run when he teamed up with Daredevil, Banner used car cables to transform into the Hulk.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I don't really care to be honest. Nolan's Batman series is not connected to the DCCU. Plus, it's not as big a deal as using Bale, Oldman, or Caine because Hardy only did one film.

and he was barely recognisable

 

[Wheels]

and he was barely recognisable

Yeah that's another good point.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

How can you call someone the Big Guy and not recognize him?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Hopefully they don't cover up Hardy's gorgeous face again, doing that should be illegal.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

How can you call someone the Big Guy and not recognize him?

because no one cared who he was until he put on the mask

 

[KillerWolf]

because no one cared who he was until he put on the mask

And yeah the mask and the accent are the reasons why they can easily cast him as another DC villain.

Him playing Bane to be a reason to pass on such a talented actor would be a waste.

 

[Maze]

I suppose that people have already talked about that but : rumour has that Robin is in the movie, that it is Carrie Kelley, and she is played by Jenna Malone?

http://www.wilx.com/video?videoid=2954507

 

[Chip Chipperson]

jena malone is more than welcome to be in the movie, but she needs to be Barbara Gordon, not an adult Carrie Kelly.

That just doesn't seem like a good route to go. I like to respect the cannon.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

i think its a mistake going with kelly, mainly because it hurts any possibility of other various more interesting robin storys.

I still think they are pulling far to much from miller and returns. its a good story but it doesnt fit the first meeting between batman and superman

 

[Black Narcissus]

I suppose that people have already talked about that but : rumour has that Robin is in the movie, that it is Carrie Kelley, and she is played by Jenna Malone?

http://www.wilx.com/video?videoid=2954507

I don't mind.

If it works then cool.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Yea. The one thing that pissed me off in Avengers was Hulk's transformation.

In Incredible Hulk, it seemed Banner can kind of control Hulk. Then in Avengers, Banner somehow becomes Hulk but can't control it. Then in the end he controls it and transforms at a perfect time. So now he can transform at his will whenever he wants? Complete ********.

I remember during Waid's Hulk run when he teamed up with Daredevil, Banner used car cables to transform into the Hulk.

The Incredible Hulk showed Banner can trigger a transformation into the Hulk. The Avengers retained that.

The Hulk can still take over if Banner is angry enough or in mortal danger (just like he always can).

I don't see a problem.

 

[Jumpman]

I suppose that people have already talked about that but : rumour has that Robin is in the movie, that it is Carrie Kelley, and she is played by Jenna Malone?

http://www.wilx.com/video?videoid=2954507

What if this reporter is actually RIGHT?

 

[C. Lee]

Yea. The one thing that pissed me off in Avengers was Hulk's transformation.

In Incredible Hulk, it seemed Banner can kind of control Hulk. Then in Avengers, Banner somehow becomes Hulk but can't control it. Then in the end he controls it and transforms at a perfect time. So now he can transform at his will whenever he wants? Complete ********.

At the end of THE INCREDIBLE HULK...it shows that Banner was beginning to be able to control the transformations.

The first Hulk transformation in AVENGERS is done when Banner's concentration is messed up by the psychic control of Loki.

The second Hulk transformation in Avengers is done completely by banner by his own will without any interferance by Loki.

 

[Frodo]

I suppose that people have already talked about that but : rumour has that Robin is in the movie, that it is Carrie Kelley, and she is played by Jenna Malone?

http://www.wilx.com/video?videoid=2954507

I'm cool with Carrie Kelly in it. Its something that hasn't been done in live action yet and it fits with the whole Dark Knight returns vibe. I love too see her in the costume...

 

[Mister J]

The topic at hand is 'All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion'; not 'The Latest Gossip-Mongering About Who We Don't Like at Fanboy High'. Let's just drop it and move on.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Still thinking on the off chance that Malone is even in this it will be as Barb, and frankly, that might be more as an Easter Egg for SUICIDE SQUAD. That is where Oracle made her debut. Again... If Malone is even in it at all.

 

[The Ironstar]

Ben @ MSU football practice field.

 

[The Shape]

Ben @ MSU football practice field.

Dat hair tho.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The topic at hand is 'All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion'; not 'The Latest Gossip-Mongering About Who We Don't Like at Fanboy High'. Drop it.

Dropping it like a hot potato Mister J.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

I don't think the rumour of a female robin is true......but I would like to oracle show up in BvS even if the role is minor