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[The Shape]

Sorry Snyder

I'm out.

I could stomach Affleck. I was even starting to get used to the idea.

Gal Gadot I was confused about and still am a little but she's pretty and at least look sort of like the character.

But Jesse Eisenberg?

Yeah I'm out.

A Lex Luthor who is 12 years younger than Bruce Wayne?

Enjoy the hype people. It's been fun but after the 2016 news and now the news that my favorite villain is being played by an actor who I couldn't believe would be more wrong for the part I've just lost the last thread of excitement I had.

Thanks for MoS WB. It was fun, but it seems that you're going in a different direction to what I like. It breaks my heart because I love DC. But I'm only 30 so I keep hope that it'll only take 10 or 15 years to sweep this mess under the rug and reboot.

Peace out.

I hope you enjoy being the angry sucker who bad-mouths everything about this movie for the next 2 years and then STILL pays top dollar to see it at midnight on the night it's released. Then, no matter how great/bad/mediocre the actual movie is, you'll continue to bad-mouth it for years to come because your closed-mind didn't get its way.

This is no longer an adaptation of Superman. It's an Elseworlds tale.

And I hate to break it to you, but nearly every superhero movie is technically an Elseworlds tale. Unless you're talking about a strict adaptation like Watchmen or Sin City, you'd be hard-pressed to find a superhero movie that didn't stray from the comic book cannon and change various things.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Originally Posted by Wise
Sorry Snyder

I'm out.

I could stomach Affleck. I was even starting to get used to the idea.

Gal Gadot I was confused about and still am a little but she's pretty and at least look sort of like the character.

But Jesse Eisenberg?

Yeah I'm out.

A Lex Luthor who is 12 years younger than Bruce Wayne?

Enjoy the hype people. It's been fun but after the 2016 news and now the news that my favorite villain is being played by an actor who I couldn't believe would be more wrong for the part I've just lost the last thread of excitement I had.

Thanks for MoS WB. It was fun, but it seems that you're going in a different direction to what I like. It breaks my heart because I love DC. But I'm only 30 so I keep hope that it'll only take 10 or 15 years to sweep this mess under the rug and reboot.

See ya, not gonna miss ya.

 

[roach]

http://www.wga.org/uploadedFiles/writers_resources/credits/screenscredits_manual10.pdf

This is the WGA's guidebook to writing credits...
It is appropriate to award a “Story by” credit when: 1) the story was written
under employment under Guild jurisdiction; 2) the story was purchased
by a signatory company from a professional writer, as defined in
the Minimum Basic Agreement; or 3) when the screenplay is based upon
a sequel story written under the Guild’s jurisdiction. If the story is based
upon source material of a story nature, see “screen story” below.

 

[roach]

A “Screenplay by” credit is appropriate when there is source material
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of a story nature (with or without a “Screen Story” credit) or when the
writer(s) entitled to “Story by” credit is different than the writer(s) entitled
to “Screenplay by” credit.
7. “Written by”
The term “Written by” is used when the writer(s) is entitled to both the
“Story by” credit and the “Screenplay by” credit.
This credit shall not be granted where there is source material of a story
nature. However, biographical, newspaper and other factual sources may
not necessarily deprive the writer of such credit.

Has nothing to do with a page one rewrite

 

[X Knight]

what's a page one rewrite?

 

[roach]

what's a page one rewrite?

completely rewrite a screenplay...as in starting from page one

 

[georgec]

what's a page one rewrite?

Essentially starting from scratch.

 

[mclay18]

I'm still baffled by Geoff Johns' involvement with this. There's only two ways this happened:

1) They're going forward with the established universe in GL, whether any of the cast makes cameo appearances or not, which could explain his EP credit.
2) WB actually asked him to help steer BvS along when Nolan and his wife dropped out.

Anyone else have any theories why he's involved? I can't think of any more.

 

[Mike_D202]

 

[InJustice]

I'm still baffled by Geoff Johns' involvement with this. There's only two ways this happened:

1) They're going forward with the established universe in GL, whether any of the cast makes cameo appearances or not, which could explain his EP credit.
2) WB actually asked him to help steer BvS along when Nolan and his wife dropped out.

Anyone else have any theories why he's involved? I can't think of any more.

I don't think he's there to connect Green Lantern. I think MOS's plot and the fact that no other obvious superheroes exists makes that pretty clear (as for Batman, it could be that Batman is just a legend in Gotham rather than a confirmed superhero). He's probably just there with such a small role.

 

[AnneFan]

And I hate to break it to you, but nearly every superhero movie is technically an Elseworlds tale. Unless you're talking about a strict adaptation like Watchmen or Sin City, you'd be hard-pressed to find a superhero movie that didn't stray from the comic book cannon and change various things.

Exactly. It's hard to fathom the logic. People have one thing in mind -when they don't get it, they can't change their perspective (that's all it is, after all, a different viewpoint of the same characters) thus have a tantrum and bail. Which is fine by me.

 

[X Knight]

completely rewrite a screenplay...as in starting from page one

Essentially starting from scratch.

thanks.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I'm still baffled by Geoff Johns' involvement with this. There's only two ways this happened:

1) They're going forward with the established universe in GL, whether any of the cast makes cameo appearances or not, which could explain his EP credit.
2) WB actually asked him to help steer BvS along when Nolan and his wife dropped out.

Anyone else have any theories why he's involved? I can't think of any more.

That's exactly it IMO. Johns is a WB executive unlike Snyder, Goyer, etc. They want one of their people with hands-on involvement.

 

[Poni_Boy]

hero movie is technically an Elseworlds tale. Unless you're talking about a strict adaptation like Watchmen or Sin City, you'd be hard-pressed to find a superhero movie that didn't stray from the comic book cannon and change various things.

Add that every comics, cartoon, novel and videogame based on these characters. Unless it's the original writer/artist still working on the character/story it's basically official fan fiction. Change in itself is a good thing. Whether it's liked is another.

 

[InJustice]

Add that every comics, cartoon, novel and videogame based on these characters. Unless it's the original writer/artist still working on the character/story it's basically official fan fiction. Change in itself is a good thing. Whether it's liked is another.

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

I don't think he's there to connect Green Lantern. I think MOS's plot and the fact that no other obvious superheroes exists makes that pretty clear (as for Batman, it could be that Batman is just a legend in Gotham rather than a confirmed superhero). He's probably just there with such a small role.

He was Smallville's muse when it came to bringing in other heros. He'll be the same here.

 

[InJustice]

He was Smallville's muse when it came to bringing in other heros. He'll be the same here.

Highly doubt it, wouldn't that be more of the responsibility of the story creator and the screenwriter?

 

[Loki882]

What gets me is that a lot of people here kept saying that they wanted someone "out of the box" to play Lex when guys like Cranston, Strong, Zane, etc were rumored. And now that WB HAS cast someone WAY outside the box, a lot of people are whining about it and saying that it should have been Cranston. This pick strikes me as a very contemporary one, given all of the younger ridiculously rich people that have emerged over the past few years. It's a new take on Lex, and I'm interested to see where they're going with this.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

so people 'claim' they won't go see this movie because of Eisenberg?!? Yeah...right, whatever

 

[AnneFan]

What gets me is that a lot of people here kept saying that they wanted someone "out of the box" to play Lex when guys like Cranston, Strong, Zane, etc were rumored. And now that WB HAS cast someone WAY outside the box, a lot of people are whining about it and saying that it should have been Cranston. This pick strikes me as a very contemporary one, given all of the younger ridiculously rich people that have emerged over the past few years. It's a new take on Lex, and I'm interested to see where they're going with this.

Get out of here with your logic and reason, Loki.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

What gets me is that a lot of people here kept saying that they wanted someone "out of the box" to play Lex when guys like Cranston, Strong, Zane, etc were rumored. And now that WB HAS cast someone WAY outside the box, a lot of people are whining about it and saying that it should have been Cranston. This pick strikes me as a very contemporary one, given all of the younger ridiculously rich people that have emerged over the past few years. It's a new take on Lex, and I'm interested to see where they're going with this.

this is miles better than Justin Bieber as Lex...he's young and ridiculously rich

 

[The Shape]

What gets me is that a lot of people here kept saying that they wanted someone "out of the box" to play Lex when guys like Cranston, Strong, Zane, etc were rumored. And now that WB HAS cast someone WAY outside the box, a lot of people are whining about it and saying that it should have been Cranston. This pick strikes me as a very contemporary one, given all of the younger ridiculously rich people that have emerged over the past few years. It's a new take on Lex, and I'm interested to see where they're going with this.

Yup. I'm all in.

 

[Loki882]

Also, it's not like Lex will be completely new. We saw in MOS that Lexcorp is already an established presence with it's fingers in a variety of business ventures. Heck, Lex has a massive skyscraper in the heart of downtown Metropolis with his name on the side. Also, Snyder did say that he envisioned Lex as having "Bill Gates levels of money.: