BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 48

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[Kane52630]

I immediately think to all the internet fanboys who tell me that the DCAU DVD movies are very good and better than the live-action movies.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

now new news?

 

[Kane52630]

I had breakfast this morning...does that count?

 

[georgec]

now new news?

No, no new news now.

 

[G.Godfrey]

now new news?

You did hear not? This movie has been cancel because Affleck too fat and Cavill balding.

 

[Gee]

You did hear not? This movie has been cancel because Affleck too fat and Cavill balding.

And Gadot too anorexic.

 

[113]

must be the only one here who thought GL is not that bad, not saying it's good either. for some reason I think a lot of people just joined a hate bandwagon on that movie.

I don't join bandwagons, especially hate bandwagons, and I thought that movie was horrible. Took a date to that movie and was embarrassed that I dragged her to it.

Is it as bad as, say, Catwoman, or Jonah Hex, or Batman & Robin? Of course not, but that would be setting the bar pretty damn low. It's worse than Spiderman 3, Ironman 2, Ironman 3, and X3 though.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

I had breakfast this morning...does that count?

 

[snpklsdmbldr]

You did hear not? This movie has been cancel because Affleck too fat and Cavill balding.

you forgot Man of Steel bombed and DC Comics just went bankrupt.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

You did hear not? This movie has been cancel because Affleck too fat and Cavill balding.

And Gadot too anorexic.

recast gadot as batman, affleck as wonder woman and cavill as lex. problems solved.

 

[Tra-El]

you forgot Man of Steel bombed and DC Comics just went bankrupt.

Lets not kid ourselves. Superman/Batman would be lucky to make $100 million world wide.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

War World Z cost 540mil to make. It was rumored to cost well over 200mil to make and tons more to market and people call that a hit. There are people who say Pacific Rim did well despite it only making 411mil on a huge budget but Man of Steel is failure after making 668mil? That's bias speaking, not facts. If Man of Steel did mediocre numbers then Star Trek: Into Darkness, War World Z and especially Pacific Rim are out and out flops.

I'm disappointed they aren't making a Batless sequel as well and I've lashed out about it before but I came to the conclusion that WB likes money and everyone wants to see the two characters together anyway so why not? I would have perferred a sequel then a team up but this could work too I guess. Cap second movie being turned into Avengers 1.5 didn't turn out bad at all.

 

[snpklsdmbldr]

Lets not kid ourselves. Superman/Batman would be lucky to make $100 million world wide.

you're too optimistic! make that 10 million tops

 

[Tra-El]

you're too optimistic! make that 10 million tops

Maybe, if it's lucky, it could slow-crawl to $15 million but with only say, 5 fresh and the 231 rotten ratings on rottentomatoes that its destined to be by critics, I just can't see it making $5 million in 2 months or if they re-release it. Not happening.

 

[kguillou]

I dont think anyone's arguing that Man of Steel didn't have a great box office, the issue is that MoS was VERY expensive to make. It had the same budget as The Avengers, so obviously the profit margin for that film is very different than that of Batman Begins or Thor 1 or Cap 1.

 

[hafizbat]

Yeah, because the cash is all that matters...

The Transformers series and the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise make a lot of money too. I don't think anyone thinks of those movies very highly, do they? Big summer CGI blockbusters tend to make a lot of money, and MoS fit that bill.

Other than financially, how can MoS be considered a success? It was panned by the critics. A 56% RT score is nothing to be proud of...considering its lower than Spider-Man 3, X-men 3: The Last Stand, and Ang Lee's Hulk, which last time I checked, were considered massive flops...

Lets not forget that there are 26 comic book films rated higher including EVERY Marvel Studios film.

I honestly don't understand how people here consider it a success. It was terrible, but it made a lot of money. That doesn't make it a success, at least not to me.

 

[Gee]

I dont think anyone's arguing that Man of Steel didn't have a great box office, the issue is that MoS was VERY expensive to make. It had the same budget as The Avengers, so obviously the profit margin for that film is very different than that of Batman Begins or Thor 1 or Cap 1.

Let's not forget MoS gained a lot of profit from the product placement and DVD/Blu-ray sales (top-selling movie for months).

 

[Mikelus]

now new news?

Nope, just some haters in denial of MOS' success because, hold on to your seats, freaking RT critics!!

The same geniuses that have the awful Star Wars prequels and movies like Spiderman 3 rated higher:

Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace: 57%
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones: 67%
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith: 80%
Spider-Man 3: 63%

Apparently, haters don't like facts like these:

Man of Steel beats Iron Man 3 in DVD and Blu-ray sales

Superman reboot fends off comic book movie competition

After an impressive box office run, 'Man of Steel' has dominated DVD and Blu-ray charts… outselling both 'Iron Man 3' and 'The Wolverine'.

According to Nash Information Services (who track US home video sales for the film industry) 'Man of Steel' managed to outsell its comic book rivals… and was placed third overall for Blu-ray sales in 2013.

Managing a whopping $57.2 million in Blu-ray sales alone (and a further $33.6 million from DVD sales) 'Man of Steel' blew away all other comic book movies. In fact, its closest rival was 'Iron Man 3'… and even that only managed $49.4 million in Blu-ray sales with a meagre $22.3 million in DVDs.

Perhaps most significantly, 'Man of Steel' was placed as the third highest-selling Blu-ray of the year (behind 'Despicable Me 2' and 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey') selling nearly twice the number of units that 'Iron Man 3' managed to shift.

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/man-steel-beats-iron-man-3-dvd-blu-102900205.html

MOS Best Movie of 2013 in ScreenCrush’s 2nd Annual Fan Choice Awards: http://screencrush.com/man-of-steel-best-movie-2013-screencrush-awards/

Man of Steel Best summer movie: http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie...movie-poll-man-steel-saves-day-222445002.html

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Who says all of WB expected it to make 1.5 billion? Marvel doesn't pay their actors so of course they can keep the budget at a certain level that WB can't. The movie made money and anyone who says it didn't doesn't know what they are talking about.

 

[hafizbat]

War World Z cost 540mil to make. It was rumored to cost well over 200mil to make and tons more to market and people call that a hit. There are people who say Pacific Rim did well despite it only making 411mil on a huge budget but Man of Steel is failure after making 668mil? That's bias speaking, not facts. If Man of Steel did mediocre numbers then Star Trek: Into Darkness, War World Z and especially Pacific Rim are out and out flops.

I'm disappointed they aren't making a Batless sequel as well and I've lashed out about it before but I came to the conclusion that WB likes money and everyone wants to see the two characters together anyway so why not? I would have perferred a sequel then a team up but this could work too I guess. Cap second movie being turned into Avengers 1.5 didn't turn out bad at all.

Critically? Yes.

Quality-wise? Yes.

In terms of winning the audience? Yes.

Being the cornerstone of the new shared DC universe? Yes.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I couldn't care less about what the critics say.

If I wanted them to make my mind up for me, I wouldn't watch movies at all.

All I know is that I enjoyed MOS, and no one can take that away from me.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Critically? Yes.

Quality-wise? Yes.

In terms of winning the audience? Yes.

Being the cornerstone of the new shared DC universe? Yes.

In your opinion.

 

[InJustice]

Yeah, because the cash is all that matters...

The Transformers series and the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise make a lot of money too. I don't think anyone thinks of those movies very highly, do they? Big summer CGI blockbusters tend to make a lot of money, and MoS fit that bill.

Other than financially, how can MoS be considered a success? It was panned by the critics. A 56% RT score is nothing to be proud of...considering its lower than Spider-Man 3, X-men 3: The Last Stand, and Ang Lee's Hulk, which last time I checked, were considered massive flops...

Lets not forget that there are 26 comic book films rated higher including EVERY Marvel Studios film.

I honestly don't understand how people here consider it a success. It was terrible, but it made a lot of money. That doesn't make it a success, at least not to me.

Why are you relying on RT numbers to judge something that is subjective?