Amy Adams is Lois Lane: - Part 6

[hopefuldreamer]

There is a difference in between saying that an actress did a bad job because her hair was the wrong color...and that the interpretation of the character wasn't all it could be because the actress didn't look like the character.

Exactly.

And then there's being like those Bond idiots who protested Daniel Craig without actually seeing the performance. I see little difference between them and the people up in arms because Lois is going to be a redhead.

For me, Bond's hair colour didn't matter one bit. Because Bond's appearance has NEVER been consistent.

We have had bonds of different ages, styles, and varying hair colours (Roger Moore didn't have dark hair either).

Bond is a huge franchise that has been presenting bond's image as changeable from the get go, and the audience's only expectation from any new bond is that he be charming, swave etc.

With Lois it's different.

Yes, she has had different hair colours on the odd occasion, but there is a consistent assosiated image because of the most PROMINENT interpretations and the most CONSISTENT depiction of her hair colour.

And for some characters, their look is simply more important than others.

For example, what would a Harry Potter fan do if none of the Weasley's were ginger?

You might say 'it's just hair', but hair matters. Visual appearance of the Lois Lane character DOES matter somewhat, and it matters a lot too me.

Doesn't mean I haven't been able to deal with it. Doesn't mean I don't love Amy Adams to pieces and think she'll make a great Lois. Doesn't mean that if she doesn't perform well it will be because of her hair.

It just means she doesn't look like Lois to me.

At the end of the day, what their hair looks like just doesn't matter. His whole point is that characters and how successful an actor is at playing them has almost nothing to do with their goddamn hair color. It's such a small minded sticking point. Is her hair color going to make a lick of difference in terms of whether or not it works as a performance, as a piece of the narrative? No. No, it's not. It's just freaking hair.
I'm sorry, but after six variations on this thread and thousands of posts, it's time to put this ridiculous non-issue to rest.

If your sick of the discussion, don't get involved.

Don't come on here and start dictating what other posters spend their time discussing.

If I am upset that Amy Adams is a strawberry blonde in this film, I have every right to say it. As do people who can't get over a lack of trunks, or any other visual change.

And FYI you may have noticed that before your post, this thread was just a bunch of us posting nice pics of Amy and complimenting her.

So well done for stoking an arguement your apparently so sick of

 

[KingKane88]

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[Lily Adler]

The Muppets and Man of Steel. Amy Adams sure knows how to find a way into my childhood.

 

[Frodo]

Exactly.



For me, Bond's hair colour didn't matter one bit. Because Bond's appearance has NEVER been consistent.

We have had bonds of different ages, styles, and varying hair colours (Roger Moore didn't have dark hair either).

Bond is a huge franchise that has been presenting bond's image as changeable from the get go, and the audience's only expectation from any new bond is that he be charming, swave etc.

With Lois it's different.

Yes, she has had different hair colours on the odd occasion, but there is a consistent assosiated image because of the most PROMINENT interpretations and the most CONSISTENT depiction of her hair colour.

And for some characters, their look is simply more important than others.

For example, what would a Harry Potter fan do if none of the Weasley's were ginger?

You might say 'it's just hair', but hair matters. Visual appearance of the Lois Lane character DOES matter somewhat, and it matters a lot too me.

Doesn't mean I haven't been able to deal with it. Doesn't mean I don't love Amy Adams to pieces and think she'll make a great Lois. Doesn't mean that if she doesn't perform well it will be because of her hair.

It just means she doesn't look like Lois to me.



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Well , I take the whole hair color thing in stride ,because ultimately these characters are subject to different interpretations and different visions. They characters have been around 70 odd years and have been twisted turned and strecthed for each new generation , with different the visual stlyes , personalities , and tones.

In other words, these characters aren't fixed and set in stone whether on the page or on film. So the question then becomes, does her hair color make Lois Lane who she is? I'd answer no. It may be a trademark or recognizable feature , but she's not defined by her hair color. Thus any change in it doesn't mean the character isn't Lois Lane .

So the benckmark for me is does the actress embody the spirit and soul of the character or does she bring a new spin to the character that works and is effective . To answer that question , I have to wait to see the film.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Don't disagree with any of that, which is kind of the point I was making.

I am perfectly capable of believing, as you do, that she may still embody Lois' spirit and soul and pull of a great perfomance...

That opinion and my opinion that she doesn't look like Lois to me, are not linked.

The only difference is, it matters to me whether or not she looks like Lois in my eyes, more than it matters to you.

FYI it's not all about the hair colour.

Kate Bosworth, even in her silly wig, didn't look like Lois to me. She had soft, light features (being a blonde naturally) and looked much too young. And none of her facial expressions ever showed me Lois... you know, a snarky smile here or a smug 'ha, I was right' grin etc. Does that make sense?

If Amy can portray Lois with mannerisms or quirks like that, things that help indicate how mental the woman is (cause that's how I love her ) it will help a lot towards her looking like Lois to me.

And with Amy, you have someone who actually DOES look like Lois to me, in a few of the roles i've seen her in, especially when she has brown hair i.e.

...but this time they have intentionally made her NOT look as much like Lois, I assume in an attempt to further distance themselves with other franchises.

Which I understand to a degree, and have made my peace with.

 

[moviedoors]

Exactly.



For me, Bond's hair colour didn't matter one bit. Because Bond's appearance has NEVER been consistent.

We have had bonds of different ages, styles, and varying hair colours (Roger Moore didn't have dark hair either).

Bond is a huge franchise that has been presenting bond's image as changeable from the get go, and the audience's only expectation from any new bond is that he be charming, swave etc.

With Lois it's different.

Yes, she has had different hair colours on the odd occasion, but there is a consistent assosiated image because of the most PROMINENT interpretations and the most CONSISTENT depiction of her hair colour.

And for some characters, their look is simply more important than others.

For example, what would a Harry Potter fan do if none of the Weasley's were ginger?

You might say 'it's just hair', but hair matters. Visual appearance of the Lois Lane character DOES matter somewhat, and it matters a lot too me.

Doesn't mean I haven't been able to deal with it. Doesn't mean I don't love Amy Adams to pieces and think she'll make a great Lois. Doesn't mean that if she doesn't perform well it will be because of her hair.

It just means she doesn't look like Lois to me.



If your sick of the discussion, don't get involved.

Don't come on here and start dictating what other posters spend their time discussing.

If I am upset that Amy Adams is a strawberry blonde in this film, I have every right to say it. As do people who can't get over a lack of trunks, or any other visual change.

And FYI you may have noticed that before your post, this thread was just a bunch of us posting nice pics of Amy and complimenting her.

So well done for stoking an arguement your apparently so sick of

Again.

Is her hair color going to make a lick of difference in terms of whether or not it works as a performance, as a piece of the narrative, as a character? That's the point. And the yeah, these threads discuss different aspects of Adams (thank god), but it always comes back to her hair eventually. I'm just trying to kill that missing-the-forrest-for-the-trees argument once and for all. Sorry if you don't like that.

 

[Wheels]

Again.

Is her hair color going to make a lick of difference in terms of whether or not it works as a performance, as a piece of the narrative, as a character? That's the point. And the yeah, these threads discuss different aspects of Adams (thank god), but it always comes back to her hair eventually. I'm just trying to kill that missing-the-forrest-for-the-trees argument once and for all. Sorry if you don't like that.

You actually thought you could kill that argument? That isn't going to happen.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Again.

Is her hair color going to make a lick of difference in terms of whether or not it works as a performance, as a piece of the narrative, as a character? That's the point. And the yeah, these threads discuss different aspects of Adams (thank god), but it always comes back to her hair eventually. I'm just trying to kill that missing-the-forrest-for-the-trees argument once and for all. Sorry if you don't like that.

Again.

I've already said it makes no difference to her performance.

And I've said that whether or not it makes a difference to her performance or not, does not change my opinion that she doesn't LOOK like Lois to me.

So I don't see your point at all.

And no, I don't like it when someone throws a paddy about negative comments just because they are about something they don't agree with.

Your trying to stop people from saying that they don't like Amy Adams hair colour for the film... and I think that's unfair because it's an opinion every person on this forum has the right to express, without being deemed petty or being lumped under the assumption that it means they a) hate amy adams or b) think she's going to give a bad performance because she's ginger.

It's just ridiculous

 

[Wheels]

People are still going to make comments about Amy's hair color. Any attempt to stop that is pointless and unnecessary. As long as no one is saying Amy or the film will be bad because of this issue, then I don't see a problem.

 

[Herolee10]

I just hope that Lois's characterization is better in this film than it was in previous films. Hell, I'm hoping that she's written in a better way than Mary Jane Watson was written in the Spiderman films. I want to see a woman who's strong and independent; someone who isn't so secure that she needs to latch onto any guy that comes to her way while pining for someone else as well in order to have a back up plan, and someone who isn't all "Can't you understand how I feel since this isn't about you" drama. Bleh.

Hell if Lois is written as good as Peggy Carter was in CA:TFA then I'd be a happy trooper.lol

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I just hope that Lois's characterization is better in this film than it was in previous films. Hell, I'm hoping that she's written in a better way than Mary Jane Watson was written in the Spiderman films. I want to see a woman who's strong and independent; someone who isn't so secure that she needs to latch onto any guy that comes to her way while pining for someone else as well in order to have a back up plan, and someone who isn't all "Can't you understand how I feel since this isn't about you" drama. Bleh.

Hell if Lois is written as good as Peggy Carter was in CA:TFA then I'd be a happy trooper.lol

Peggy was pretty cool, but I want Lois to be a little bit less... buttoned up.

She should be an 'act before she thinks' woman, completely high maintenance, sarcastic and disobediant, competative and driven, manipulative and stubborn. Completely and utterly full of passion and adrenaline.

Like I said, the woman is kind of mad! Nothing puts her off. If the President of the United states told her to back off a story, she'd smile sweetly and promise to leave it alone, and then two hours later be caught breaking into his office.

If Amy Adams Lois comes out anywhere near Mary Jane levels of pathetic, the movie will not get a repeat viewing on principal!

But I have a hard time seeing Amy Adams giving that kind of performance. She's just a lot more vibrant a personality that Kirsten Dunst.

 

[Wheels]

Amy Adams shows more spunk and personality in Night at the Museum 2 than Dunst has in her whole career.

 

[Frodo]

Don't disagree with any of that, which is kind of the point I was making.

I am perfectly capable of believing, as you do, that she may still embody Lois' spirit and soul and pull of a great perfomance...

That opinion and my opinion that she doesn't look like Lois to me, are not linked.

The only difference is, it matters to me whether or not she looks like Lois in my eyes, more than it matters to you.

FYI it's not all about the hair colour.

Kate Bosworth, even in her silly wig, didn't look like Lois to me. She had soft, light features (being a blonde naturally) and looked much too young. And none of her facial expressions ever showed me Lois... you know, a snarky smile here or a smug 'ha, I was right' grin etc. Does that make sense?

If Amy can portray Lois with mannerisms or quirks like that, things that help indicate how mental the woman is (cause that's how I love her ) it will help a lot towards her looking like Lois to me.

And with Amy, you have someone who actually DOES look like Lois to me, in a few of the roles i've seen her in, especially when she has brown hair i.e.

.

Well , I respect that you don't feel that Adams looks like Lois , which is why I didn't address that point. I think comic and non comic fans alike all have diiferent views about the way Lois should look because the character has been around so long and has been done so many different ways that its hard to say "you're wrong " or "you're right" . Its a matter of opinion.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Completely agreed. It's absolutely a matter of taste.

I don't think they have done anything 'wrong', and am not angry at them or anything. It's a decision they made, and one they had every right to make and that I do to some degree understand.

But if it were up to me, she'd have had dark hair.

 

[Herolee10]

And if it were up to me, we would have had one officially released photo of her as Lois Lane by now =P.lol Well that, and we would get one hell of a passionate kiss between Lois and Clark in this film =P.haha



You know, I’m just going to go with a theory I have, but how would you guys feel is Lois didn’t start off as a journalist for the DP? What if in this film, we see as to how Lois made her way up the DP through her articles about Superman and exposing other corrupted things in MOS?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

And if it were up to me, we would have had one officially released photo of her as Lois Lane by now =P.lol Well that, and we would get one hell of a passionate kiss between Lois and Clark in this film =P.haha

I wasn't too fussed... and then I watched Immortals and realised how hot kissing scenes with Cavill are, and that we have to have one in this film

But yeah, and offical photo of Amy would be great... any official photo of anyone, heck even a building, would be great...

You know, I’m just going to go with a theory I have, but how would you guys feel is Lois didn’t start off as a journalist for the DP? What if in this film, we see as to how Lois made her way up the DP through her articles about Superman and exposing other corrupted things in MOS?

I'm fine with that; tho the big problem in that scenario is - when does Clark join the DP?

 

[Herolee10]

I'm fine with that; tho the big problem in that scenario is - when does Clark join the DP?

I have a theory that Clark meets Lois for the first time during his travels around the world, perhaps he even meets her several times around the world as well; always running into each other since Lois is in hot pursuit for the mysterious individual that’s pulling off these super heroics.

Clark realizes from seeing as to how being a reporter is useful towards learning on what’s going on in the world by seeing on how much information that Lois is able to get, that he joins the DP (perhaps by the end of the film).

Side-note, but I’m willing to bet even that Perry White may not even be the one in charge of the DP at the start of this film as well, that he’s just a senior reporter at the DP who ends up getting the place through the events of the film. This may also allow us to see Lois and Perry work with each other on the field more often, which could also explain as to why Perry knows how reckless and impulsive Lois can be when on the field at times.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I just want Lois to have some level of seniority over Clark, so I don't want them starting at the DP too close to each other (which your in danger of if you have Lois only getting the job half way through the film).

As long as she is a well respected journalist by the time Clark comes to work for the DP, i'll be fine. So if they can manage that, then go for it!

As for Perry... nah, I think it'd be better if he's the editor the whole time Lois is trying to get the job. I'd love to see him pushing her to the limit to get the story, and secretly being proud when she does it and proves his instincts about her right.

 

[DCnightwing23]

Don't disagree with any of that, which is kind of the point I was making.

I am perfectly capable of believing, as you do, that she may still embody Lois' spirit and soul and pull of a great perfomance...

That opinion and my opinion that she doesn't look like Lois to me, are not linked.

The only difference is, it matters to me whether or not she looks like Lois in my eyes, more than it matters to you.

FYI it's not all about the hair colour.

Kate Bosworth, even in her silly wig, didn't look like Lois to me. She had soft, light features (being a blonde naturally) and looked much too young. And none of her facial expressions ever showed me Lois... you know, a snarky smile here or a smug 'ha, I was right' grin etc. Does that make sense?

If Amy can portray Lois with mannerisms or quirks like that, things that help indicate how mental the woman is (cause that's how I love her ) it will help a lot towards her looking like Lois to me.

And with Amy, you have someone who actually DOES look like Lois to me, in a few of the roles i've seen her in, especially when she has brown hair i.e.

...but this time they have intentionally made her NOT look as much like Lois, I assume in an attempt to further distance themselves with other franchises.

Which I understand to a degree, and have made my peace with.

What i can't and don't understand is why, if Adams has shown in the past that looks more Lois Lane-y than ever with brown hair, didnt they go with that same hair color AGAIN for Lois? Because she's filming a lesser movie as well? BS, when you have fans that can get pretty nasty and intense as the ones online you'd think you'd really just go for the brunette look to please the fans. She looks stunning with brunette hair, sooooo much more Lois Lane.

But again, all hope is not lost, Adams is a great actress and i adore her, so she will be great. I just dont understand why she didnt fully commit herself the way Cavill did.

 

[Sacroliliac]

What i can't and don't understand is why, if Adams has shown in the past that looks more Lois Lane-y than ever with brown hair, didnt they go with that same hair color AGAIN for Lois? Because she's filming a lesser movie as well? BS, when you have fans that can get pretty nasty and intense as the ones online you'd think you'd really just go for the brunette look to please the fans.

Internet nerd rage frightens no one.

 

[KRIM]

What i can't and don't understand is why, if Adams has shown in the past that looks more Lois Lane-y than ever with brown hair, didnt they go with that same hair color AGAIN for Lois? Because she's filming a lesser movie as well? BS, when you have fans that can get pretty nasty and intense as the ones online you'd think you'd really just go for the brunette look to please the fans. She looks stunning with brunette hair, sooooo much more Lois Lane.

But again, all hope is not lost, Adams is a great actress and i adore her, so she will be great. I just dont understand why she didnt fully commit herself the way Cavill did.

It has nothing to do with her. In fact, most actors don't have a say in how their character is going to look. She was asked about this when she was first cast, and all she could say was, "I guess we'll see".

 

[DCnightwing23]

It has nothing to do with her. In fact, most actors don't have a say in how their character is going to look. She was asked about this when she was first cast, and all she could say was, "I guess we'll see".

Not true, Mark Strong when he was cast as Sinestro had a say in the look of the character, especially when first character designs were way off he stated his opinion and wanted the classic Sinestro look. And look what happened, Sinestro was one of the few bright points of the film and Strong was looked and came off brilliantly. You'd think an oscar winning actress would get a say in the character's looks, etc. Im sure if she had said something they would've listened.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Exactly.



For me, Bond's hair colour didn't matter one bit. Because Bond's appearance has NEVER been consistent.

We have had bonds of different ages, styles, and varying hair colours (Roger Moore didn't have dark hair either).

Brown hair (even light brown hair like Moore had) is generally considered to be somewhat dark I think. As such, people didn't make a big fuss when Moore was cast as 007 back in the day.

The reception towards Daniel Craig, on the other hand, was notably different. 007 fans were so distraught by his apparent blondness that they felt compelled to erect hate sites in his honor. He actually turned out to be a really good Bond, though, much to their surprise.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I just dont understand why she didnt fully commit herself the way Cavill did.

Maybe it wasn't up to her. For instance, a lot of people give T.Welling a lot of crap for for opting against wearing the suit in the series finale of Smallville, but I think it probably had little to do with him really. I think it was a creative decision influenced by a desire to shift the focus on new blood, i.e., Henry Cavill.

 

[flickchick85]

I would imagine her appearance would have largely been dictated by the hair/make-up department who themselves are taking orders from the director of photography, who has specific color schemes/lighting in mind. And of course, he's taking orders from Snyder, so I doubt Amy just said, "nah, I'm not gonna dye my hair." The whole look/vision of the movie plays into it. I remember in some of her first interviews after being cast, she kept getting asked if she was gonna dye her hair, and she would always say something to the effect of, "that's up to Zack," or "they haven't told me yet."