Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - Part 17

[Daltonio]

I'm so excited to finally see Laurel become the Canary! I've been looking forward to it for so long and she looks great!

 

[Daltonio]

Actor who played Constantine Drakon has passed away.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/21/mortal-kombat-legacys-kano-actor-darren-shahlavi-has-died

Just heard about that a bit ago, it's a shame.

RIP.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Pretty much what I expected to hear.

Yet having two different Flashes is okay?


And they had better be using the Lazarus Pit. Any other malarkey will really get on my nerves.

 

[The Shape]

It's sad how I don't get excited for new Arrow episodes in the way that I used to. I was really underwhelmed by the mid-season finale and I hope they can turn this season around in the back-half.

 

[Venomfan]

I'm sure this has been discussed, but doesn't

Spoiler

Thea being the killer

make no sense based on what Felicity said about the arrow trajectory and what not to explain how Roy threw them?

 

[fire117]

I'm sure this has been discussed, but doesn't

Spoiler

Thea being the killer

make no sense based on what Felicity said about the arrow trajectory and what not to explain how Roy threw them?

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if it's revealed the video of Thea killing Sara is fake and the real killer is Ras who is working with Merlyn. That'd be a twist.

 

[JC00]

Except you are forgetting the similar height thing.

 

[SpideyVille]

New photos from next week's episode.

http://www.greenarrowtv.com/arrow-midnight-city-preview-images-with-black-canary-in-action/20966

Looking at Vinnie Jones, I can't help but think he would've been a great Kingpin in a Spider-Man movie.

 

[Norek]

Oh ****, not that ****ing DJ lame-ass again... Oh for ****s sake...

 

[Loki882]

Hasn't Malcolm killed that guy yet ugh?

 

[Daltonio]

Oh ****, not that ****ing DJ lame-ass again... Oh for ****s sake...

With how much I hated Roy, I'm not too mad to see Thea with someone else.

 

[Norek]

With how much I hated Roy, I'm not too mad to see Thea with someone else.

Not a fan of Roy either, but compared to this guy, Roy is James Bond level of awesomeness.

 

[Reek]

Roy and James Bond should never be in the same sentence... accept for this one.

 

[haephestus]

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if it's revealed the video of Thea killing Sara is fake and the real killer is Ras who is working with Merlyn. That'd be a twist.

I hope so! Even if Thea was a junior champion archer, I don't see how a few months of training with Merlyn and being drugged would make her capable of killing Sara who had trained with the League for years and had ordinarily been shown to be an extremely competent fighter, including defensive techniques.

Sure, Sara was surprised to see her old boss/ex-boyfriend's sister on the roof, but Thea was acting creepy and dressed in a League of Assassin uniform. Surely that would have raised Sara's hackles and led her to assume some kind of defensive measure instead of just standing there and allowing herself to be shot full of arrows.

As one can tell, I still have some residual issues about the manner of Sara's death.

 

[Venomfan]

Except you are forgetting the similar height thing.

felicty said the arrows came from a downward trajectory which would explain roy throwing the arrows because if they came from a bow they'd be straight on. Another poster had brought up in that episode that he hopes that isn't something they just forget for the real killer and made up to make drama for the roy episode. That seems to be what they did though

 

[KevanG]

Got up to the Barry Allen episodes. Gee I wonder if he'll become the Flash soon?

 

[Primal Slayer]

I hope so! Even if Thea was a junior champion archer, I don't see how a few months of training with Merlyn and being drugged would make her capable of killing Sara who had trained with the League for years and had ordinarily been shown to be an extremely competent fighter, including defensive techniques.

Sure, Sara was surprised to see her old boss/ex-boyfriend's sister on the roof, but Thea was acting creepy and dressed in a League of Assassin uniform. Surely that would have raised Sara's hackles and led her to assume some kind of defensive measure instead of just standing there and allowing herself to be shot full of arrows.

As one can tell, I still have some residual issues about the manner of Sara's death.

That's why they went with the whole shock factor for Sara. Thea was the LAST person she expected and she isn't going to instantly think "girls be brainwashed, time to get defensive". And since Thea is a champion archer, it is WAY easier for her to learn more about archery in general. These people aren't starting from the very bottom.

And I don't know if people here know or not, but MG has a tumblr where he answers fans questions about the show
http://marcguggenheim.tumblr.com/

Some Laurel questions from MG.

hi MG, there's something that's been bothering me... In several junkets and press interviews there has been talk about LL "becoming her sister". I'm alright with her taking on the mantle and honoring Sara, but I have the feeling the "becoming her sister" is being taken very literally. I hope you are not trying to replace Sara with Laurel. You've gone to great pains to stress they're not the same Hero and it'd be insulting to both characters. I hope you do them justice.

No, it’s more like living up to her sister’s legacy. I think 3x13 will shine a lot of light on this.

Please answer this! Do you plan on just recasting Wild Cat then? If not, how is Laurel going to be trained??

Oh, we’ve got a plan…

Marc Laurel knows the feelings that Felicity and Oliver have for each other? Is aware of it? Mmm never answer me?
zomparellina73 asked
marcguggenheim:

In my mind, she’s aware of it. In fact, we had a line to that effect in a future episode but had to cut it for time.

And more interviews for the show
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/arr...se-of-black-canary-atom-and-brick-1201410918/

The producers teased that the three episode run is very much a showcase for Laurel as she makes her debut on the mean streets of Starling as Black Canary. But determination and a few boxing lessons don’t make a hero: “She clearly doesn’t have Sara’s skill. Sara was essentially Oliver’s equal in a lot of ways. She literally went through the same exact experiences with him and then trained under Ra’s al Ghul,” Kreisberg pointed out. “Half of being a vigilante is, as Nyssa [Katrina Law] would say, being fearless. As Laurel says, it’s being crazy. Right now she has the crazy in spades. The thing about Laurel is — for people who are concerned that she’s going from zero to Black Canary — just because you put on a costume and a mask and run around doesn’t make you anyone else’s equal. She gets stabbed, she gets her ass handed to her, but the thing that’s amazing about Laurel is she just keeps coming and it doesn’t matter how many times she gets knocked down to the mat. And believe me, she gets knocked down to the mat, but she keeps coming back and she won’t be stopped.”

He added, “What’s interesting for her character is all of this started because she wanted to avenge Sara. Her arc of the season is really going from avenging Sara to honoring her… A lot of the back half of the season is Laurel and Nyssa finding common ground. When we met [Oliver] in the pilot he had already trained. We’re going to get to see that evolution with Laurel.”

 

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[luis4u]

 

[Primal Slayer]

That's weird, I wonder why.

 

[luis4u]

That's weird, I wonder why.

I am majorly disappointed She was my favorite character.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

I surprise that Ra's did not mention Oliver mother at all during their meeting......would be great to know how Moira knows the head of league of assassins. That cannot be forgotten since she is one of the few links to Ra's and exposing merlyn is alive to him.

 

[DigificWriter]

I'm still processing tonight's episode, but wanted to mention something that it pretty much helped me realize:
This series is not - and has never been - anywhere near as "grounded" or "realistic" as people believe it to be.

There IS a heavy influence from Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy present in the show, but only in terms of the way that it looks; in terms of its actual content and the way that it presents its storytelling, it reminds me far more of the tone and approach established by Tim Burton in Batman and Batman Returns (and carried over into Batman Forever by Schumacher).

 

[Infinity9999x]

I'm still processing tonight's episode, but wanted to mention something that it pretty much helped me realize:
This series is not - and has never been - anywhere near as "grounded" or "realistic" as people believe it to be.

There IS a heavy influence from Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy present in the show, but only in terms of the way that it looks; in terms of its actual content and the way that it presents its storytelling, it reminds me far more of the tone and approach established by Tim Burton in Batman and Batman Returns (and carried over into Batman Forever by Schumacher).

I'd say more B89/BR and BTAS, not so much BF. Moments of BF though.

 

[zenith16]

I surprise that Ra's did not mention Oliver mother at all during their meeting......would be great to know how Moira knows the head of league of assassins. That cannot be forgotten since she is one of the few links to Ra's and exposing merlyn is alive to him.

Yo man just cause she Dropped his name doesn't mean she met him man she had people looking into Merlin's past some how they found that name but I doesn't think those people that found Ras Al ghol name for her went any farther then that for her. other some body would have been set back to her or a other nasty visitor be side Malcolmb which he's hate him self as well.