Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 27

[Osiris-Rex]

CW Fall premiere dates out.

http://deadline.com/2017/06/the-cw-fall-premiere-dates-dynasty-valor-the-flash-1202109659/

I wonder how they are going to schedule the crossover this season with Arrow on two say afterwards and an hour later. I assume the crossover ends on Arrow
and it would be even worse if it starts on Arrow the week before. Either way it leaves a big gap in the story. Will people stick around for the conclusion?

 

[metaphysician]

In terms of rankings:
Arrow S2
Flash S1
Arrow S5/ArrowS1/Supergirl S1/Lot S2
Flash S2
LOT S1/Supergirl S2/Arrow S4
Flash S3
Arrow S3

Also, I don't watch Gotham but it's interesting to see how Arrow's designs have influenced other productions versions of the League of Assassins.

. . . how the hell does a major network show manage to have *worse* production values than the CW? Seriously?

 

[Herolee10]

And people thought the Arrow had a big leather fetish.lol

 

[DawnWarrior]

By my count, that'll be the third live-action version of the League, and of Ra's along with them.

And yeah, that's an awful lot of leather. Wouldn't some kind of cloth be more stealthy?

 

[Jedi Arrow]

. . . how the hell does a major network show manage to have *worse* production values than the CW? Seriously?

Yeah, those LOT costumes are far inferior to Arrow's.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

. . . how the hell does a major network show manage to have *worse* production values than the CW? Seriously?

Well, for one thing, despite being on the Fox Network, Gotham is still produced by Warner Bros. So Warner Bros has to make it cheap enough for Fox to willingly pay the license fees. That's why CBS dropped Supergirl,
it cost too much money when CBS could run cheap to make sitcoms like Kevin Can Wait instead and get basically the same ratings.

Where-as Warner Bros. owns the CW so the money they spend on their shows gets made back in syndication deals like with Netflix as well as what money the show made running on their own network.

 

[2kt09]

How would people rank the villains?

For me, it is:

1. Reverse-Flash (season 1 of The Flash)
2. Prometheus
3. Deathstroke

Reverse Flash (Season 1)
Malcolm Merlyn (Season 1)
Deathstroke (Season 2)
Prometheus

 

[HellYeah]

Season 5 was really dope. At least better than the other seasons. Also, did they mention Slade's son being Joe or Grant?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Rumor has it: Richard Dragon for the S6 big bad.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

Rumor has it: Richard Dragon for the S6 big bad.

Sweet; that could be cool. And if he leads the Longbow Hunters like in the New 52 comics, it would be a good way to get (at least) Werner Zytle and Danny Brickwell back, since they were both members of the Longbow Hunters. Maybe Clock King, too. Don't know if they'd be allowed to include Killer Moth due to his (sometimes?) Batman connections, but he could be cool, too.

Count me as hopeful that this rumor is true.

 

[Primal Slayer]

They'd probably add Siren to his band of misfits.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

Probably, and it'd be a good place for her (if they handled it well). Actually, them just doing a Backwards Team Arrow might be really fun. Richard Dragon would obviously be Oliver's counterpart, with Siren as Dinah's, and they could go from there. But I also wouldn't want them to stick too closely to that formula; it might get old over a whole season. But if they wanted to end the season with Team Arrow vs. The Longbow Hunters, and have the Longbow Hunters' roster roughly analogous to TA's roster, I'd be cool with that.

 

[metaphysician]

Rumor has it: Richard Dragon for the S6 big bad.

Eww. Did someone perhaps mention to them that Richard Dragon is *not* a villain? Will the s7 big bad perhaps be Batman?

 

[Primal Slayer]

He was turned into one during TheNew52 reboot.

 

[metaphysician]

Which is yet another good reason to drop the Nu52 into a trash can and burn it.

 

[Gintoki]

Which is yet another good reason to drop the Nu52 into a trash can and burn it.

Eh, no.

Jeff Lemire's run was good, and the new Richard Dragon was introduced by him.

 

[metaphysician]

Acceptable collateral damage. And given he feels its totally okay to take a character and randomly turn them into a villain, I question how good a writer he actually is.

 

[Boy Scout]

The answer is very. That run was very good.

 

[flickchick85]

Jeff Lemire is great.

 

[gohei_]

Oh yeah the Lemire run is really good. The stuff that came before though made no sense at all.

 

[Gintoki]

Acceptable collateral damage. And given he feels its totally okay to take a character and randomly turn them into a villain, I question how good a writer he actually is.

Considering his run was the best, and he wrote the outsiders war arc, i don't question at all whether he is a good writer or not.

 

[metaphysician]

Then why did he decide to take a character who has always been a hero, and randomly replace them with a doppleganger which has nothing in common other than besmirching the name?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Barrowman talks about Malcolms death and how he asked them if he would be coming back next year to which they said "we dont have any plans to bring you back". Of course he took the entire thing in stride but they gave him a pretty crappy send off.

 

[coluanprime]

Barrowman talks about Malcolms death and how he asked them if he would be coming back next year to which they said "we dont have any plans to bring you back". Of course he took the entire thing in stride but they gave him a pretty crappy send off.

What are you talking about? He got a pretty good death.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Off screen deaths are rarely good.