Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - Part 5

[Loki882]

S. Grundy, I'm pretty sure that most people who'd sit on a jury in Starling City wouldn't convict Oliver of killing vicious criminals, they'd shake his hand.

 

[S. Grundy]

Maybe if he only killed like three people, but he's got serious blood on his hands. What he was doing was premeditated murder.

 

[Loki882]

Yes, but to the public at large, he was killing evil people, so they're sympathies would be limited.

 

[Artistsean]

Especially after he tried to stop and save the day during the Dark Archer now known as Merlin's destruction of the Glades. And it could be reasoned by any juror or attorney that the whole time he was working to stop this plan by targeting the people who were part of it.
Without knowing she would be protecting her son his mother would confess that all the names were in on the conspiracy, and the Detective Lance would testify that he was given word by the vigilante about the coming destruction to help save lives. So it could all be reasoned that he was trying to save the city and lives by his actions.

 

[BH/HHH]

Is anyone worried that super powers might turn people off the show?

It's like my Uncle watches it cause he likes the story but if dude lay there's super powered people in costumes running around I could see him turning off from it.

I am concerned about the integrity of the show. But on the other hand I'm excited to see the Flash.

 

[SpiderCool]

This show is too unrealistic.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

...seriously? That's your complaint? You know this is a SUPERHERO forum, right?

 

[Sawyer]

 

[mr. peasant]

Is anyone worried that super powers might turn people off the show?

It's like my Uncle watches it cause he likes the story but if dude lay there's super powered people in costumes running around I could see him turning off from it.

I am concerned about the integrity of the show. But on the other hand I'm excited to see the Flash.

I agree. It's a very valid concern. Some might get turned off by the new genre and setting. Others might view it as and get turned off by its bait-and-switch tactic. These are just some of the more obvious problems with attempting a Genre Shift to the show, by introducing The Flash and changing the show's setting.

 

[Loki882]

It depends on how they're introduced. In Static Shock, a chemical explosion caused certain people to develop superpowers, that could be an acceptable explanation on Arrow. Also, it would depend on which superpowers are used. Things like super strength, super speed, and immortality could work. Out there stuff like GL, not so much.

 

[S. Grundy]

Either they embrace the DCU fully or don't even bother.

 

[DrDoom]

Therein lies the rub. This version of Green Arrow has murdered people, and it's been premeditated murder at that. So any reason for him to be in prison is, frankly justified.

Unless it's Oliver that gets arrested and sent to Super Max on trumped up charges, it not being known that he is Green Arrow so there will be no murder charges

 

[Broseph44]

This show is too unrealistic.

Just, wow haha.

 

[BH/HHH]

I agree. It's a very valid concern. Some might get turned off by the new genre and setting. Others might view it as and get turned off by its bait-and-switch tactic. These are just some of the more obvious problems with attempting a Genre Shift to the show, by introducing The Flash and changing the show's setting.

Yeah I think it could really cause some problems.

Also I don't want a Smallville sit auction where he's tied into nearly everyone's origin. The Flash shouldn't get his super powers in Star City. I don't know why they don't just do a Flash show separate and down the line of they felt it was right cross the two over. Also by crossing them over maybe you have had Ollie appear on the Flash show so you don't have to break certain rules on Ollie's show.

 

[mr. peasant]

I don't know why they don't just do a Flash show separate and down the line of they felt it was right cross the two over. Also by crossing them over maybe you have had Ollie appear on the Flash show so you don't have to break certain rules on Ollie's show.

It's because starting a new show and generating a fanbase for it from scratch is both, very risky and expensive. It's much safer to do a spin-off by tapping the fanbase of the existing series.

Plus, the episodes the character is featured in would be a way to gauge audience interest in the spin-off show without having to first greenlight a half season's worth of episodes for production. As such, it saves a lot of money.

 

[BH/HHH]

It's because starting a new show and generating a fanbase for it from scratch is both, very risky and expensive. It's much safer to do a spin-off by tapping the fanbase of the existing series.

Plus, the episodes the character is featured in would be a way to gauge audience interest in the spin-off show without having to first greenlight a half season's worth of episodes for production. As such, it saves a lot of money.

Oh I know it is and I get showing him in this show first etc but with the Flash spearheading a brand new show, whilst he isn't as well known as Superman or Batman I think he's well known enough to have a show start from scratch.

This to me just goes along with WBs cautious approach to everything, they're afraid to dive in and take a risk with these DC properties.

 

[RetroNaz]

I would love for the show to deviate into the cancelled Super Max movie storyline for a full season or two.

 

[BH/HHH]

I would love for the show to deviate into the cancelled Super Max movie storyline for a full season or two.

Yeah a few if is have suggest per it before, it'd be great after a few seasons when they've built up a good amount of villains.

 

[Paradox1]

Yeah I think it could really cause some problems.

Also I don't want a Smallville sit auction where he's tied into nearly everyone's origin. The Flash shouldn't get his super powers in Star City. I don't know why they don't just do a Flash show separate and down the line of they felt it was right cross the two over. Also by crossing them over maybe you have had Ollie appear on the Flash show so you don't have to break certain rules on Ollie's show.

How they've explained it is that Barry is introduced in 8.9 episode and 20 is a backdoor pilot that may have nothing to do with Ollie.

 

[mr. peasant]

Oh I know it is and I get showing him in this show first etc but with the Flash spearheading a brand new show, whilst he isn't as well known as Superman or Batman I think he's well known enough to have a show start from scratch.

This to me just goes along with WBs cautious approach to everything, they're afraid to dive in and take a risk with these DC properties.

On the other hand, they did take a risk by giving the go-ahead for Arrow.

 

[Ryder]

On the other hand, they did take a risk by giving the go-ahead for Arrow.

not really, it was likely the non risky decision on a superhero they ever made. They had 4 years of smallville to gauge how the Green arrow character would work on TV and his popularity with fans. He was already familiar with Cw audiences when they greenlit Arrow.

One may argue that there was a flash show in the 90s but that was a long time ago and on a different network.

 

[batdude]

Oh, it was still risky to recast Hartley with Amell. I actually like it this way. even if the Flash show doesn't sell, we get a couple good team ups. If it does, we get two good DC shows.

 

[Drz]

Wolverine, eat your heart out?!

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Bronze Tiger!!!!

 

[DrDoom]

I have those!!! Called "Pantera" blades