Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - Part 7

[Rorschach2012]

I wish the Cyrus Gold character would've been Blockbuster or something instead. I wish they didn't have to change the original story of Solomon Grundy, it's pretty awesome. He's an evil bank robber who gets killed and dumped by some equally evil dudes into a swamp with magical properties, then comes back years later as an undead zombie.

 

[Karelia]

If Nightwing does end up in the show, I have a feeling they may do the Huntress/Nightwing relationship. I was actually looking through my Nightwing graphic novels and totally forgot they had a thing. It seems like something they may explore in Arrow.

 

[godisawesome]

Seem pointless, random people get whacked in SC all the time.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who dies is Cyrus and the important thing about that will be that Ollie failed to beat him and Quentin had to put him down personally.

Cue a mysterious, ticked off juggernaut with pale skin and a weird nursery rhyme fixation appearing next season...

 

[Boy Scout]

I feel like Oliver should learn how to catch an arrow in midair.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Cool news on Grundy.

So is Nightwing pretty much confirmed for the show? Steven Mcqueen tweeted this and said "Nightwing training"

Either he is gonna be Nightwing or he's going to look a real desperate tool.

 

[Loki882]

He doesn't NEED the job, he's a major character on Vampire Diaries. If he simply WANTS the job, then I can't blame him. If someone asked me to play Nightwing, I'd say yes in a heartbeat.

 

[Sawyer]

I think he just wants it. First reason being that absolutely nothing has been confirmed. Second being that, when he was asked about his interest when he's already got a job, he said he just wants to play a superhero.

 

[DrRocket]

Amell is awesome, he posted this on his twitter with the caption; is something wrong, gustin?

http://m.imgur.com/PYqwaYv

 

[mr. peasant]

Seem pointless, random people get whacked in SC all the time.

It wouldn't be pointless if the show then decides to pursue a storyline from it. For instance, if said death leads to Quentin getting suspended/fired/etc. Especially now that he is no longer a detective, he shouldn't be doing stuff like that and he most certainly should not be affiliated with a known vigilante-murderer.

 

[regnak]

It wouldn't be pointless if the show then decides to pursue a storyline from it. For instance, if said death leads to Quentin getting suspended/fired/etc. Especially now that he is no longer a detective, he shouldn't be doing stuff like that and he most certainly should not be affiliated with a known vigilante-murderer.

Quentin is supposed to be like Commissioner Gordon, he cannot be that if he gets kicked off the force so that idea is out.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Cyrus was the guy at the end that bro bloods serum worked on , right?

 

[Nathan]

Yes.

 

[mr. peasant]

Quentin is supposed to be like Commissioner Gordon, he cannot be that if he gets kicked off the force so that idea is out.

First, says whom? I always thought Quentin Lance from the TV show Arrow was his own character and not a carbon copy of a Batman character (especially since he's now a beat cop rather than a relatively high ranking police officer). Second, who's to say it always has to be that way and that things can't change?

And third (as things should always come in threes), what makes you think that if Quentin gets suspended or kicked off the force that it has to be irrevocably permanent?

 

[regnak]

First, says whom? I always thought Quentin Lance from the TV show Arrow was his own character and not a carbon copy of a Batman character (especially since he's now a beat cop rather than a relatively high ranking police officer). Second, who's to say it always has to be that way and that things can't change?

And third (as things should always come in threes), what makes you think that if Quentin gets suspended or kicked off the force that it has to be irrevocably permanent?

One of the show runners, either Guggenheim or Berlanti said it in an interview. Quentin's been in enough trouble already so that if he got kicked off the force it would be likely permanent.( stretching suspension of disbelief if it wasn't)

 

[mr. peasant]

One of the show runners, either Guggenheim or Berlanti said it in an interview. Quentin's been in enough trouble already so that if he got kicked off the force it would be likely permanent.( stretching suspension of disbelief if it wasn't)

The way I figure, it could play out something like this:

Random innocent bystander/cop gets killed -> Quentin's involvement and culpability in it raised -> Quentin gets suspended pending investigation -> Quentin/Team Arrow does something to help resolve the issue +/- Success -> Internal Affairs comes back and rules Quentin not culpable -> Quentin gets reinstated


P.S.: On a side note, awhile back, people were wondering why the media would suddenly decide to start Oliver's alter ego's name from "The Hood" to "The Arrow". I just thought of one... remember back in the season 2 premiere? There were a group of copycats who went by the name "The Hoods". Given the latter's actions and Oliver's new no kill policy, it might've been time for a name change.

 

[Human Torch]

I'm frankly disappointed they broke the no-kill rule so early.I mean,you knew it had to happen eventually,but it should have happened in a season finale to a worthy opponent.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I'm frankly disappointed they broke the no-kill rule so early.I mean,you knew it had to happen eventually,but it should have happened in a season finale to a worthy opponent.

I actually liked that it didn't last that long. It makes sense, the guy uses a bow and arrow, its pretty darn hard not to kill people with a weapon designed for that specific purpose.

It showed him that no matter how hard he tries, when you're fighting a war there are going to be causalities.

 

[Nathan]

I like that he was forced into a situation where he had to make a choice. It's good that he doesn't want to kill, but sometimes you don't have another option. And it's better than seeing him let someone go again, and again, and again.

 

[Human Torch]

Trick Arrows,dammit!

Anyway,the fact that they let The Count figure out his I.D. (which I felt was pretty lame,TBH) was what really signaled his demise.

 

[regnak]

Trick Arrows,dammit!

Anyway,the fact that they let The Count figure out his I.D. (which I felt was pretty lame,TBH) was what really signaled his demise.

Well if Felicity wants to play Nancy Drew with her employee ID again it(figuring out Oliver's ID) will probably happen again.

 

[mr. peasant]

I like that he was forced into a situation where he had to make a choice. It's good that he doesn't want to kill, but sometimes you don't have another option. And it's better than seeing him let someone go again, and again, and again.

More importantly, I liked that while he was determined not to kill again, he wasn't so hesitant that it directly led to a loved one getting hurt or dying. *cough*Batman*cough*

Personally, I think it sheds a lot on what kind of character Oliver is - namely, that he puts his loved ones over himself and that he is very decisive.

 

[Loki882]

It's easy to SAY that your not going to kill. However, you have no idea what kind of extreme situations that you will find yourself in in the future. Sometimes, there is no other option. There are times when killing is the RIGHT and MORAL thing to do. American comic books seem to be the only ones who don't get this fact. Manga gets it, European comics get it, etc.

 

[Infinity9999x]

More importantly, I liked that while he was determined not to kill again, he wasn't so hesitant that it directly led to a loved one getting hurt or dying. *cough*Batman*cough*

Personally, I think it sheds a lot on what kind of character Oliver is - namely, that he puts his loved ones over himself and that he is very decisive.

Except that the Nolan Batman did kill when it came down to it. They wanted to display that same idea too, that in a war, there are going to be deaths.

Though Arrow has done it better.

 

[Gee]

Seeing Thea with the boxing gloves made me think of two things: arrow-gloves and Ted Grant.

 

[Human Torch]

Superheroes don't kill, period.They always find another way.(That's kinda what makes them "Super" Heroes.)I'm sure that's an old fashioned stance to have in this day and age where even Superman has blood on his hands.But I stand by it.