Avengers vs. X-Men: 2012 Event - Part 2

[jaqua99]

No. Its become Thor getting beat up by the phoenix

 

[runawayboulder]

Looking at the preview of AvX #10, the jobber torch is being passed to Iron Fist.

 

[Panthro]

Looking at the preview of AvX #10, the jobber torch is being passed to Iron Fist.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Doomed_hero]

Maybe this has been said before, but I have only read the last few pages. This event doesn't at all feel like Avengers vs X-Men anymore. It has become Avengers vs The Phoenix. I feel like more and more X-Men are going to be on the side of the Avengers in this fight by the time it ends. I think this story would've been a lot better without the "Phoenix Five" aspect (although Spider-Man's interaction with Colossus in #9 was good) because it has made the "X-Men" the bad guys of the story, when it really should've been a lot more unclear about who was in the right and who was in the wrong (even Civil War did a better job of this).

I dont know I still look at the avengers as the bad guys of this story. I mean the X-Men where training Hope to take the PF and then the Avengers but there heads in acting all superior and saying they are taking hope which led to most of this in the first place and now that the avengers have hope what are they doing? .....training her

 

[the great thor]

I dont know I still look at the avengers as the bad guys of this story. I mean the X-Men where training Hope to take the PF and then the Avengers but there heads in acting all superior and saying they are taking hope which led to most of this in the first place and now that the avengers have hope what are they doing? .....training her

i agree with you, the avengers just came onto the xmen turf and told them what was going to happen. at the begining of this story the attitude of the avengers was if you are too powerful and not in our camp you must be evil. i am sure scott and xmen take on this is how can a team thats letting wanda run around going to tell us what to do about hope. thats just crazy.

 

[Doomed_hero]

Not to mention the bang up job the Avengers did with Sentry.

 

[stillanerd]

Well, for those who are upset that Marvel has been casting the X-Men (or some of them anyway) as the villains of this event, Rich Johnson's advance review of Avengers vs. X-Men #10 is likely going to make you even more PO'ed. (warning, potential spoilers in the link): http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/14/review-avengers-vs-x-men-10/

 

[Donnie Darko]

I dont know I still look at the avengers as the bad guys of this story. I mean the X-Men where training Hope to take the PF and then the Avengers but there heads in acting all superior and saying they are taking hope which led to most of this in the first place and now that the avengers have hope what are they doing? .....training her

I agree that the Avengers were the *****es that started the whole fight to begin with, but the X-Men (well, not really the X-Men because of the whole Phoenix corruption) have been the ones attacking nations and throwing Avengers into demon-infested volcanoes.

 

[Doomed_hero]

your right....the true villians in this are the writers.

 

[Spider-Nerd]

Well, for those who are upset that Marvel has been casting the X-Men (or some of them anyway) as the villains of this event, Rich Johnson's advance review of Avengers vs. X-Men #10 is likely going to make you even more PO'ed. (warning, potential spoilers in the link): http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/14/review-avengers-vs-x-men-10/

Oh geez, that sounds horrible. If this entire story has been an excuse to

Spoiler

make emma and scott go insane and have the avengers "save the day"

it'll be the end of any nonspider-man titles on my marvel pull list.

 

[runawayboulder]

This is the X-Men's version of Shadowland or Stark Reassembled. DD turned bad, no prob - he was possessed by an ancient Japanese demon. Iron Man was a *****e hunting down former friends....? No problem, re-image his brain with a hard drive with the last backup done conveniently before Civil War.

I'm not surprised by this.

 

[Spider-Nerd]

I suppose I also am not surprised by this. It should be no shock that wolverine and the avengers save the day. It just reflects so badly on not just scott+emma, but the general x-men population as well. Ouch marvel, ouch.

 

[Manic]

You'd almost think Marvel was having a hard time coming up with a decent mission statement for the X-Men franchise. But that'd only happen if some idiot wrote a story that made their previous mission statement moot. But no writer is that bad.


So, what's this I hear about the writer of House of M writing X-Men soon?

 

[Spider-Nerd]

The mission statement for the x-men is as follows: cannot overshadow wolverine or the avengers. STOMP THEM DOWN.

As far as Bendis goes, I loved the first 80 or so issues of ultimate spider-man so I'll give him a shot with what's left of the x-men.

 

[Donnie Darko]

This is the X-Men's version of Shadowland or Stark Reassembled. DD turned bad, no prob - he was possessed by an ancient Japanese demon. Iron Man was a *****e hunting down former friends....? No problem, re-image his brain with a hard drive with the last backup done conveniently before Civil War.

I'm not surprised by this.

Don't remind me of Shadowland. I was actually really digging Daredevil going off the deep end until it turned out he was just possessed. I actually felt like it was a fairly logical progression that he would be driven pretty much mad and go to extremes like that.

 

[javi1024]

You'd almost think Marvel was having a hard time coming up with a decent mission statement for the X-Men franchise. But that'd only happen if some idiot wrote a story that made their previous mission statement moot. But no writer is that bad.


So, what's this I hear about the writer of House of M writing X-Men soon?

Uncanny is being canceled after AvX and Bendis is taking over the franchise with the new book "All-New X-Men" featuring the return of the original 5 X-Men of the 60s in present day.

 

[runawayboulder]

Don't remind me of Shadowland. I was actually really digging Daredevil going off the deep end until it turned out he was just possessed. I actually felt like it was a fairly logical progression that he would be driven pretty much mad and go to extremes like that.

That's kinda my point. Instead of being brave and facing these issues up front, Marvel writers take the back door out. It's annoying.

That's why I dig Mark Waid, he took the DD situation head on and is working with it.

 

[Panthro]

Both sides are coming off badly. These characters deserve better stories than this.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I actually had to take a year off comics for financial reasons. I begged my wife to let me get back into comics in time for AvX. **** me, right?

 

[Doomed_hero]

what really makes me angry is that X-men, atleast in my opioin was the most popular team at marvel for years(what really got me into comics anyway) and now all of a sudden Avengers are big cause of the films and the X-men get the shaft because of it. I want it to go back to showing the X-Men as a family again and not punching bags to show how awesome the avengers are.

 

[runawayboulder]

The X-Men's popularity waned 8 years ago when Bendis took over the Avengers.

 

[Panthro]

The X-Men's popularity waned 8 years ago when Bendis took over the Avengers.

Does that mean the X-Men will get back on top with Bendis writing them?

 

[Anubis]

F**k the X-Men.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Does that mean the X-Men will get back on top with Bendis writing them?

If so, I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.

 

[Havok83]

The X-Men's popularity waned 8 years ago when Bendis took over the Avengers.

Which coincided with when Morrison left the franchise