The Dark Knight Rises Batman 3: Where does the story go from here?

[timfalletti]

Batman should move into an apartment with Green Arrow....then wacky hi-jinks ensue

Plastic Man shows up as a recurring guest star.

 

[OwlBoy]

The Phantom Stranger as the grumpy landlord!

 

[Maresk]

Riddler next, totally.
Have him be closer to Paul Dini's Riddler, an extremelly intelligent man obsessed with puzzles, even make him some sort of consultant detective the mayor turns to to discover Batman's identity and/or capture him. Nygma, gradually obsessed with Bats as he finds in him a true challenge, not only discovers Bruce is Batman but also that he is innocent of the crimes. You can play with this around to have him gradually turn into a villain and also to clean Bruce of the murders without him interfering. Also have Selina Kyle now that Rachel's gone, or Talia if you want to tie the entire trilogy toghether.

 

[Buttons]

I'm sorry but this obsession with having Catwoman is lame. I don't want to see her at all in the next film. I want Harley Quinn facilitating the Joker's wishes from Arkham and Black Mask to threaten Reese for the identity of Batman and then he realizes its Bruce, his childhood 'friend.' Then chaos and blackmail ensues.

 

[MaJiN]

Riddler next, totally.
Have him be closer to Paul Dini's Riddler, an extremelly intelligent man obsessed with puzzles, even make him some sort of consultant detective the mayor turns to to discover Batman's identity and/or capture him. Nygma, gradually obsessed with Bats as he finds in him a true challenge, not only discovers Bruce is Batman but also that he is innocent of the crimes. You can play with this around to have him gradually turn into a villain and also to clean Bruce of the murders without him interfering. Also have Selina Kyle now that Rachel's gone, or Talia if you want to tie the entire trilogy toghether.

Could the Riddler work as a hacker. Kind of similar to the villain in "Live Free or Die Hard".

 

[chaseter]

Could the Riddler work as a hacker. Kind of similar to the villain in "Live Free or Die Hard".

Are you serious

 

[bo_carvalho]

The final movie, we all kno is just gonna be an all out VILLIAN fest to send this trilogy off with a bang.

here are some plot lines.

Spoiler

-With Joker now in Arkham, he meets Dr. Quinzel. They fall in love. She breaks him out and there ya go.

-Meanwhile, during the time Joker was in, Penguin has taken over the business. Funding all the mob familys. While killing them off, one by one.

-With a new character introduced in TDK (mr. reese = mysteries = enigma = Edward Nygma = the riddler) they should take that and run with it. With him knowing the true identity of batman. He becomes obsessed. he starts sending, the police and bruce, riddles. trying to lead the police to batman, but batman to himself (if that makes any sense). trying to blackmail bruce for money.

-with the joker back on the scene, and the penguin funding all the crime, they team up.

-So with batman on the run, occupied mostly by the riddler, crime rises. The people start looking for a hero. They need batman.

- the people need someone. batman comes back, not as a outcast, and goes after PENGUIN/ JOKER/ HARLEY.

-with the penguin being greedy, the jokers beliefs come out, he doesnt do it for the money. So Penguin vs Joker time. resulting in the penguins CAPTURE. (joker sets him up)

-batman then comes face to face with riddler. I dont know how it will come about, but everyone will find out the identity of batman. before the riddler is taken to arkham.

-then, another final showdown between Mr. J and batman. resulting in Harley's death. batman prevails. joker taken to arkham.



NOW THIS IS WHERE IT GETS TRICKY...

-with the people knoing his identity bruce doesnt kno wat to do. but people are still wanting to help and tend to not care about his true identity. You introduce dick grayson, with will lead to a ROBIN movie.


AFTER THE CREDITS WILL BE A CLASSIC SCENE IN ARKHAM, WITH ALL THE VILLIANS SITTING THERE.

PENGUIN/ JOKER/ SCARECROW/ RIDDLER....WITH MAYBE SOME NEW FACES. OR MAYBE A TWO FACE



GREAT TRILOGY!

THESE ARE THE LIST OF CHARACTERS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE..


hopefully the last character i mentioned isnt in it, but think about it, daniel craig would be insane


Phillip Semour Hoffman - Penguin

Joshua Harto - Riddler

Fairuza Balk - Harley Quinn

Daniel Day-Lewis - The Joker

Mr. Freeze - Daniel Craig




TITLE= BATMAN: ENIGMA




PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

 

[spideyman101]

I wouldn't mind Penguin so much in a future Bat film, if only he didn't have that ridiculous name... Oswald Cobblepot. Would it be possible to have his name changed... or just leave it Penguin... kind of like not giving Joker a real name...

 

[Superhero 101]

Here are my Choices
Riddler.
Return of Joker
Talia?

When can we Expect BATMAN 3? 2011 or 2012

 

[jmc]

When can we Expect BATMAN 3? 2011 or 2012

If and whenever Nolan feels like doing another.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I don't think it will make July 2011 since we have Avengers, Spidey, and Cap slated for 2011. Too crowded. Go for the November release... no Harry Potters... hopefully no Bond movies either. November 2011... 2012 is too far.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I'm sorry but this obsession with having Catwoman is lame. I don't want to see her at all in the next film. I want Harley Quinn facilitating the Joker's wishes from Arkham and Black Mask to threaten Reese for the identity of Batman and then he realizes its Bruce, his childhood 'friend.' Then chaos and blackmail ensues.

Even more lame... and heck I don't even want to get wrapped up with Batman's identity... Reese shouldn't be involved.

 

[spiderfan970]

I think A story similar to the overall plot of War Games would seem like a somewhat natural progression from what happened in TDK, in that different mobs (and new supervillain characters?) are called together by someone who doesn't show up to the location and a giant gang war ensues. Batman has to redeem himself and rally the cops to stop them all even though he's an outlaw. That seems like a good place to go...

And it would also examine that whole idea of Batman having too much power and what lines should not be crossed which was touched on towards the end of TDK.

I never want to see Harley or Talia, and I think it'd be best to move onto a new villain rather than bringing back Ras'. The way to make a third one work is to take it to another level just like TDK did, not to repeat ourselves.

I actually want to see villains that haven't been in any of the movies yet. I want to see other mob bosses that came in later like Rupert Thorne.

If Clayface were done as he originally appeared, as a man with a 'clayface' mask that went around in a trenchcoat, a big hat, and a giant knife, then I could see him working.

If they had Calendar man in a similar position to that of Long Halloween/Dark Victory I could see him working to some capacity in this series as well, obviously not as a main villain.

Black Mask is an obvious choice, though there is no way he could carry a movie on his own either.

Hugo Strange could work well, hell, Mad Monk and the cult could work too.

The only original villain I could take is Penguin as another mob boss, not played by Hoffman. I'd really like him as Calendar Man.

I suppose Riddler could work if we need more 'supervillain' esque characters...but I don't know. Maybe he could be the one to rally the mobs in my idea.

And somehow the main villain(s) have to be completely different from Ledger, because if they are at all similar to him they will pale in comparison.

And for the love of God, don't recast The Joker, actually at this point I'm not even sure we need another movie, The Dark Knight was so perfect, what else could we really do that wasn't already explored beautifully in that last installment to the series?

 

[LarBrd33]

Well I kinda assume that if you're reading this thread you probably already saw TDK. But just in case I'll wrap my entire response as a spoiler. This is only like my 2nd post. I don't wanna tick anyone off.

My thoughts:

Spoiler

Well after watching the second one... I think it's very possible that Reese turns out to be the Riddler. The guy has a motive (money), intelligence (was clever enough to solve the "Who is Batman" riddle by delving deeply into the money pit and finding pictures of the tumbler. Clearly a "riddle" solved), morally sketchy (tried to blackmail Wayne out of several million dollars), embarrassment (his attempt to blackmail was dismissed by Fox... plus his career is probably tarnished a bit from going on television and trying to expose Batman.... society hates him (people were ready to kill him and probably place some of the blame of the hospital bombing on him... even if not his fault).

He's the only person who claims to know Batman's identity and the movie ended with the public hunting Batman. How does he NOT play a part in the 3rd? Seriously... and I don't think NOlan would create a character with that much significance and power for the heck of it. I'm not sure how the 3rd one will play out, but if it involves the Riddler, I'm pretty much expecting that to be Reese. And honestly it would make sense for the Riddler to be an unknown character threatening Gotham for the greater part of the movie. If the film is done as a detective thriller then the ultimate reveal of Mr. Reese as the "mysterious" Riddler might not even happen until the climax.

I'd also expect some additional storylines though. If Nolan honestly perceives this as a trilogy then this will be the final chapter of his story. If that's the case, I wouldn't be shocked to see Talia introduced and Ra's Al Ghul making a "shocking" return towards the end (more twists... Nolan loves his twists. Every one of his movies has some kind of "twist" in it). You wouldn't need a Lazarus Pit to explain his return. The guy's a freakin master ninja. You don't think he could escape from a train? Be real. It's not like his body was found. The film could appropriately end with Liam Neeson making a return... since that relationship was a very important aspect of the first film and obviously a huge aspect of the comics.

Will Two-Face return in some capacity? Maybe. I dont' really think it matters anyways. We've seen what he has to offer as a character for the most part. If he's he's still riding the gimmick in the 3rd, so be it. But after watching the 2nd I kinda feel like Two-Face is to the Joker what Scarecrowe was to Ra's Al Ghul in BB. In other words... he's a 2nd string villian who could make a cameo in the 3rd.

Andwhile we're working on lots of twists and turns... maybe Reese is merely the perceived Riddler and it's revealed at the end that The Joker was behind it all. Who knows. But a tiny cameo from the Joker (even if just a shot of him cackling in his cell) would be nice. I wouldn't worry about being disrespectful to Ledger. Let Nolan make his trilogy.

My money's on mystery detective thriller for the 3rd.

(Random side note: I didn't like the idea of Catwoman until someone mentioned she could simply be a cat burglar in a tight leather suit hired by the mob. That'd be ok. But I don't think I'd base a movie on her)

 

[Hero_for_hire]

gggg

 

[Ollo]

This is what I'd like to see happen:

Batman goes into hiding and eventually a number of copycats start showing up around Gotham. Eventually it just becomes anarchy - somehow incorporating Catwoman or The Penguin in some manner.

In the meantime, Mike Engel becomes so obsessed over figuring out who Batman is/where he went that he becomes crazy trying to solve the puzzle.

Eventually Gotham realizes they need Batman, whether they like it or not.

 

[Dusty_Lane]

Shame Heath isn't with us anymore, because Joker could easily carry a sequel. I would have loved to have seen how a Nolanized Harley Quinn would have played off Heath's Joker, but that's rather mute now isn't it.

It's really hard to find villains that will actually be adaptable to this realistic format. There are so many great ones out there (Mr. Freeze, Clayface, Penguin, Poison Ivy, etc.), but they are just alittle too on the farfetched side. I see you guys keep throwing The Riddler's name around, but wouldn't the idea of a criminal sending Batman and the police on a wild goose chase be alittle too much like The Dark Knight. You don't wanna end up remaking the same movie. I'm really thinking that Catwoman and Black Mask are the two most adaptable.

Whatever happens though, Batman has to get back in good with the law and the public somehow.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Shame Heath isn't with us anymore, because Joker could easily carry a sequel. I would have loved to have seen how a Nolanized Harley Quinn would have played off Heath's Joker, but that's rather mute now isn't it.

It's really hard to find villains that will actually be adaptable to this realistic format. There are so many great ones out there (Mr. Freeze, Clayface, Penguin, Poison Ivy, etc.), but they are just alittle too on the farfetched side. I see you guys keep throwing The Riddler's name around, but wouldn't the idea of a criminal sending Batman and the police on a wild goose chase be alittle too much like The Dark Knight. You don't wanna end up remaking the same movie. I'm really thinking that Catwoman and Black Mask are the two most adaptable.

Whatever happens though, Batman has to get back in good with the law and the public somehow.

For the last time, Penguin is adaptable! He's not a freak unless people write him as one.

 

[Dusty_Lane]

Another thing! I like The Riddler, but he's not a really a vicious killer. In order to make a good Nolan Batman villain you need to have either a sick, twisted, evil f'ck (ala Joker, Scarecrow), or tragic (ala Two-Face). Bane and Hush would just be too predictable for the fans to enjoy them in live action. Black Mask would be fine for a secondary villain, but as I saw someone point out above, it's doubtful he could carry a whole movie alone. I guess there's always Bookworm or Egghead.

 

[Darkly Dexter]

Are you serious

yep, there is crazy people around here

 

[thedrizzle59]

i don't think the 3rd movie needs just one villain to carry it. I would like to establish multiple villains in the 3rd movie, none of witch really need origins just motives. Black Mask, Dead Shot, Riddler, Penguin, catwoman, and even the ventriloquist could possibly as a whole carry a movie together. (none of them team up, nor are any of them given lots of screen time. They just establish them selves in Gotham, and make the citizens realize that they need the batman to protect them and the city.

 

[P.F. Geraci]

Catwoman and The Penguin are not happening.

I really think that in the end, they were banking on using the Joker in the third film, that's why they kept him around. And unfortunately we now know that can't happen. And honestly, after seeing all the mayhem and chaos mixed with Heath's performance, there's really no villain that could top or at least carry on from The Joker, except for maybe Two-Face. And people can argue all they want, Two-Face is dead. This isn't Nolan giving an ambiguous ending as to whether or not Two-Face really is dead. He's dead. This is a case of an unfortunate event in Heath Ledger's passing that left them with very little option. If they really wanna go ahead with a third film, they should look into how Gotham Central handled their villains, in a realistic fashion. But in the end, I really question whether or not there should even be a 3rd film after seeing the events of TDK unfold. A lot of people are saying "Oh this and this and this is unresolved and Batman needs to clear his name." No, Batman doesn't need to clear his name. He doesn't want to be loved. He doesn't want to be considered a hero. He doesn't care if he has the heat of the murders on him. The ending of The Dark Knight doesn't necessarily set up for a third film but for an unsaid mythology of Batman, the vigilante that will do what it takes to protect Gotham City. I can look at the end of the film and know that Batman lives on in this universe created by Christopher Nolan and be happy if there isn't another film.

 

[marukisu]

I think i should say before you read these i havent read the comics so my batman knowledge only comes from The adventures of Batman, Batman Beyond ,and the Justoce League cartoons.
So when you all read take that into consideration and give me respectful feedback. please and thank you

Also my ideas are a tad bit rsuhed but i feel the overall direction is there.


Storyline #1

The Joker And Harvey dent are in Arkham and Batman still goes about his superhero duties. One night he is informed about a theif who will strike at the museum trying to steal a prized jewel. Batman catches the theif and it is a woman in a cat costume. seeing her as a little threat he tries talking her into an arrest but she fights him and she flees.

The Ridller is also included in this story and is the equivilant to The Joker's sadistic comical violence with his riddles and traps around gotham. ihavent really thought how to introduce him but on paper the ridller is basically like jigsaw from saw only his traps are a bit more toned down and it is up to batman more so than the person in the trap to get out.

later on in the story selina and batman fall for eachother but it is more of an unspoken love. So she ends up helping him to take down the ridller in the process however she is used as bait and is captured by The ridller. In the finale it comes down to a game ogf wits an intelligence in order for him to free catwoman and batman is succesful however the Riddler's pride is hurt and tries to activate a trap that owuld kill her. Batman stops him and rescues her. She is grateful but batman tells her has to turn her in for the crimes shes commited.


Storyline #2

(This is my idea for a trailer alluding to what the story might be)

A woman is walking down a simple black and white checkered hallway in a business jacket and a skirt with heels.Her blonde hair is pinned up with clip and she is wearing glasses. The lights in the celing are flickering due to bad lighting. while shes walking shes also holding her purse on her shoulder and a clipboard in another.

man #1: This man is crazy and created a crime movement that swept this city off of its feet.And his killings are so sadistic.I dont think even you can help him

Mystery woman: Please, ive studied psychology for a few years and i think i know how to deal with his type.

man #2-Well heres your stop

they all stop in front of a door, and one of the men slides a keycard down a slot and te locks on the door are relased. One of the men held the door open for her and said. good luck.

She enters the room but her body blocks the person in front of her. (the camera at this point is solely focused on her and not on the person shes come to see.) She pulls up a chair and sits down

Mystery Woman: Good evening my names is Dr. Harleen Quinzel and your name is?

(The camera suddely slwoly shifts to the person shes talking to)

The joker: I have no name but you can call me The Joker.

(at this point the trailer fades to the title of the movie and afterwards it shows different clips enompassing what the movie will be about.)

The story will basically be about harley falling for the joker and eventually setting him free. in the mean time harvey dent has startedan organized crime mob in the underground which is reminiscent of the opposite law force that he tried to create to help Gotham. Upon Harley breaking The Joker, Harvey hears about this and how the woman who helped him may have intimate relations with him. In order to get revenge on the Joker for Rachel he targets Harley. the joker and harley however manipulate dent into causing chaos in the town by tricking him into using Gotham as their battleground to destroy the social order much like in The Dark Knight. Bruce Wayne is now cuaght between these three and has to stop their war.



The finale would include harvey injuring harley and an enraged joker battling two face to the death. With a sad harley locked up in Arkham the last few scenes would be her meeting Ivy and this would set up for anpther sequel in which they try to take over gotham.


storyline#3

During the process of trying to take over Gothamshe learns that the joker isnt dead and they team up as a trio however ivy is concerned with the abudsive relationship between Harley and joker. batman would notice this and use it to his advantage to make ivy turn on the group and help batman stop their chaos.

story line #4

The Scarecrow tried being good and a vigilante (as seen in The Dark Knight). seeing how easily how that failed due to The Joker , so he decided to re establish his mob. The gas that gave him the power to make people hallucinate however cannot be found anywhere in Gotham. upon his research to gain the hallucinating gas ,he sees that in a college in gotham, a botanical divison has the tools needed to create it. he sets of and meets the heads of the divison in the botanical company which are a professor and his prodigyPamela Isley. Pamela is skeptical to make this because she knows the damge it can cause but her professor convinces her into making it. Afterwards her professor says that he has a much more important expirement that can change humanity as we know it and it could only work with her. because she already has feelings for him it is easy for the professor to seduce her into doing the experiement. Little to her knowledge he plans to inject her with a posionus syrum just to see the side effects of it on the human body. She is quite familar with different toxins and refuses and tries to run away but he forcefully injects it into her and she pases out. he tries to take her to the hospital to get help but pamela goes in and out of conciousness until her heart finally stops. as he mourns her death by her bedside she quickly regains her conicuness and takes out her vengeful rage on him.


Im tried of typing so ill sum this up

Pamela and her Professor also has been trying to get several big companies to stop polluting the environment. at one point in the story pamela tries to sell Bruce on starting a fund that will help to do this but he declines and so she takes out her vendetta on Gotham's biggest industries and attempts to turn it into a floral paradise.

Also her and the scarecrow team up to do so. With his toxic gas and her expertise in the different aspects of botany they set out to make gotham their own.

In the movie version of ivy it should be noted that this version of ivy is able oto telkinetically control plants and she creates a syrum that gives her enough strength to go toe to toe with batman, Eventually she ends up betraying and killing the scarecrow with a kiss and sets out to make her own plans.

The Finale would include Bruce using her blood with a mix of other chemicals to cancel out her powers. and put her in jail.

Reasons Nolan should include these characters

Poision Ivy- A wonderful opputunity to create a beautiful floral CG wasteleand Gotham.
and she could be the first villian to have superpowers and bring a comic book feel to counterbalance the realism in the movie

The Riddler- A chance to make a vary smart villain that uses riddles that question morality and humanity. if done correctly it can be seen as more than a fantastic comic book adaptation. If the ridller was to follow The Dark Knight it wouldnt be hard to top its predecessor with intelligent moral ambiguities.

Harley Quinn- She can counterbalnce the Jokers more serious sadistic humor with her own style of love struck sadistic wacky humor.

 

[P.F. Geraci]

Really in the end, I think if they used the Riddler, he'll end up acting like a Joker clone basically.

 

[Venom 1988]

The Scarecrow tried being good and a vigilante (as seen in The Dark Knight).

Uhhh what are you talking about? He was selling drugs to the other gang.