The Dark Knight Rises Batman 4?! Discuss!

[BatLobster]

Lol speaking of Lucas and Nolan...

Last Feb. the vested one interviewed the flanneled one at a DGA event about the making of A New Hope. It's pretty long, but an interesting watch if you're a Nolan and SW fan.

http://www.dga.org/Events/2011/04-april-2011/George-Lucas-on-Star-Wars.aspx

Video is at the bottom. Pretty off-topic, sorry...just came across this last night though and hadn't seen it posted here.

 

[Rockstar]

I'm anxious to see Nolan in the producer chair for Batman 4 or whatever it will be called.


I'm curious what vision he'll help craft for this one.


I wonder if Goyer, Jonah and the rest will be involved.


I'm very excited by the possible directors he'd be interested in. They'll likely be up and coming great talents.


I think it's in Bale's best interests to step down. The next Batman actor really needs to be committed to playing the role from around 2015-2025..... long time. I don't think that's Christian.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The "producer" is an often dubious term that can range from practically directing the film to being involved merely nominally. Tim Burton as a producer for Batman Returns is the latter. I have no doubts Nolan's name, if used at all, will only be there for the name value and very little to do with the actual film.

 

[Rockstar]

Big difference.

WB was trying to get rid of Tim Burton after Batman Returns disappointed. That's what his demotion to producer was about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8gB9P43xD1w#t=583s


WB is trying to hold onto Nolan for some quality control. That's what Nolan's appointment as producer is about. Robinov implied that Nolan is staying on to help with the creative process.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Just like he is "helping" Snyder? The only help he can give is to ensure whoever directs has creative freedom and stays the hell out. Perhaps a few saccharine comments to the film too.

 

[Alchemy Arcade]

Isn't Nolan involved in the writing process with MoS?

I don't think he'll be writing on the Batman reboot.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Yes. But not Chris.

 

[Rockstar]

Just like he is "helping" Snyder? The only help he can give is to ensure whoever directs has creative freedom and stays the hell out. Perhaps a few saccharine comments to the film too.

Exactly how he's helping Snyder.


Nolan and Goyer came up with the concept and approach to "Man of Steel." They conceptualized it. It's Superman through the lense of "what if this happened in the real world." Same way they handled Batman. Developing the film's approach and concept is a huge creative aspect of the filmmaking process.

Nolan helped mentor the new director. Him and Emma Thomas had several meetings with Zack and his wife to plan it all out during the pre-production days.


Nolan had an influence on the casting too. This is why big hitters like Russell Crowe ended up signing on, RC doing his first supporting role in over a decade. Snyder wouldn't have been able to accomplish this alone.




Honestly, if TDKR is a success... I fully expect Warners to rely on Nolan to ensure that the next Batman film has all the elements that made his films successful. Quality control. WB has a formula that works.

Robinov's comments about Nolan and Thomas helping to 'reinvent' Batman post-TDKR didn't surprise me at all.

 

[Alchemy Arcade]

Yes. But not Chris.

Ah, I see.

 

[Norek]

Nolan pretty much explains his role as a producer for MoS in this video:

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[Tacit Ronin]

Nolan had an influence on the casting too. This is why big hitters like Russell Crowe ended up signing on, RC doing his first supporting role in over a decade. Snyder wouldn't have been able to accomplish this alone.

You have no way of proving this. Comic book films inherently attracts big names. It's not out of the realm of possibility that these actors because they simply wanted to be in one.

 

[BatLobster]

I could've sworn I remember reading that Nolan had a huge hand in selecting Cavill though. Or was at least sitting in on the auditions.

 

[Rockstar]

I could've sworn I remember reading that Nolan had a huge hand in selecting Cavill though. Or was at least sitting in on the auditions.

He didn't sit in on the auditions, but voiced his opinion. Everyone listens to Chris' opinion and values it. According to some insiders, he never actually met Cavill.

 

[Norek]

You have no way of proving this. Comic book films inherently attracts big names. It's not out of the realm of possibility that these actors because they simply wanted to be in one.

I think what he meant to say is that Nolan had someone in mind for a particular role, and they tried to get him on. It's rare for an actor like Russell Crowe to push to be in something like Man of Steel before being contacted and asked to star. It's not out of the real of possibility of course, but I think it's unlikely.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I could've sworn I remember reading that Nolan had a huge hand in selecting Cavill though. Or was at least sitting in on the auditions.

Nolan must be pretty anti-social if was sitting on the audition room with him and never even
introducing himself. How does that even happen? Was he sitting behind an invisible glass? Was he behind a veil like those Chinese Empresses?

 

[Rockstar]

You have no way of proving this. Comic book films inherently attracts big names. It's not out of the realm of possibility that these actors because they simply wanted to be in one.

It's common sense. He voiced Adams as a favorite actress of his years ago too.

You have no way of proving he didn't influence the casting either.


Either way, the casting is a moot point. It's confirmed that Nolan and Goyer developed the concept, approach and script.

That's huge.


If Nolan does the same for the next Batman, or anything close... it will have a huge influence on shaping what this next Batman franchise will be like.


TBH I'm expecting Nolan's "what if this happened in the real world" logic to stick for the future Bat films. The formula is successful so far.

 

[Rockstar]

It's rare for an actor like Russell Crowe to push to be in something like Man of Steel before being contacted and asked to star. It's not out of the real of possibility of course, but I think it's unlikely.

Yeah exactly.

That's Hollywood. Especially in regard to an actor of Crowe's calibur. Same for Diane Lane and others.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I'm extremely excited about MoS. It sounds like The Nolans and Goyer will be pushing for more Sci-Fi elements in Superman's story.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

You have no way of proving he didn't influence the casting either.

Nolan said, even in the recent Empire article, that he had no influence whatsoever after he initial push to get the project started. Maybe he didn't want to, maybe he couldn't with TDKR over his shoulders. Logic dictates that he won't be involved with the casting process. Ergo, the burden of proof is ON YOU to provide evidence that he did have a hand in casting and go against his own words.

Either way, the casting is a moot point. It's confirmed that Nolan and Goyer developed the concept, approach and script.

Nolan and Goyer came up with the concept, Nolan pitched it to the suits, Goyer wrote the first draft with mixed results and a bad third act (surprise!!!!), Jonah Nolan saved the project, kurt Johnstad refined script some more.

Nolan had a hand, the younger, more American, more brash one. The prudish English one only pitched the idea. Then he backed out.

 

[shauner111]

I doubt he had any pull with the casting of MOS. The concept is not really his, its David Goyers, didn't he just pitch it to WB and hire the director? I would say Nolans big say in the matter was when Zack Snyder had some ideas of his own and Zack went to Chris for approval. He would tell him if he liked or didn't like the new directions. And Snyder said Nolan was into it.

What i'm afraid of is WB hiring new writers for the sequels. Not asking Goyer/Jonathan back. Well Goyer i dont mind but i hope they keep Jonathan on board

 

[BatLobster]

Nolan must be pretty anti-social if was sitting on the audition room with him and never even
introducing himself. How does that even happen? Was he sitting behind an invisible glass? Was he behind a veil like those Chinese Empresses?

Lol Wait-wha?? Nolan might've been there in plain site, or he might've just seen the audition tapes and gave his .02. I just remember reading he had some kind of voice in the matter, but nothing confirmed.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Lol Wait-wha?? Nolan might've been there in plain site, or he might've just seen the audition tapes and gave his .02. I just remember reading he had some kind of voice in the matter, but nothing confirmed.

It was a joke because Cavil said he never met Nolan. This immediately paints the picture of his incredible levels of involvement doesn't it?

 

[Art Damage]

Man, I had a dream the other night that Nolan had scrapped plans to end the trilogy and that this was just the end of his FIRST trilogy. His next set of three films were "currently in development".

What a glorious reality that wouldve been.

I'm extremely excited about MoS. It sounds like The Nolans and Goyer will be pushing for more Sci-Fi elements in Superman's story.

Yeah me too, sadly with my favorite era of Batman on film ending...MoS gives me great hope for some amazing sets of films.

 

[Norek]

Man, I had a dream the other night that Nolan had scrapped plans to end the trilogy and that this was just the end of his FIRST trilogy. His next set of three films were "currently in development".

What a glorious reality that wouldve been.



Yeah me too, sadly with my favorite era of Batman on film ending...MoS gives me great hope for some amazing sets of films.

True - with sequels like THE Man of Steel and then The Man of Steel Rises...

 

[BatLobster]

It was a joke because Cavil said he never met Nolan. This immediately paints the picture of his incredible levels of involvement doesn't it?

Oh ok. Had no idea it was confirmed that they never met until now.

Either way, not really a big deal. Casting just seemed like one of the more broad ways one can help out when "godfathering" a project, so it seemed believable to me that he at least took part in that discussion before they reached a decision. Not saying Nolan is the brains behind the project at all.

He didn't sit in on the auditions, but voiced his opinion. Everyone listens to Chris' opinion and values it. According to some insiders, he never actually met Cavill.

Again, I wasn't aware that was the case, but seems to make sense that he'd at least give the thumbs up.