BvS Ben Affleck IS Batman - - - Part 18

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[terry78]

Im 100 percent sure youre wrong.

There are a few exceptions but not many, I'm sure.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

If Ben wasn't the academy award winning director he is, do you think he would still be chosen to play the role of Batman?

 

[Jekecy]

Even without the Academy Award, he was still critically acclaimed and Hollywood's most recent golden boy because of his career turnaround. Things would have likely turned out the same.

 

[georgec]

Got buried at the end of the last thread, so reposting:

Left: August 2013
Right: June 2014

He looks awesome.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Even without the Academy Award, he was still critically acclaimed and Hollywood's most recent golden boy because of his career turnaround. Things would have likely turned out the same.

That's cool
Who was the second choice for the role?

Got buried at the end of the last thread, so reposting:

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Left: August 2013
Right: June 2014

He looks awesome.

He improved his build a lot for the role

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I think Josh Brolin was the 2nd choice for the role? Or, at least, he was the one being touted the most.

 

[the last son]

I wouldn't say he improved his build a lot. He had plenty of time to get ripped. I understand he had another movie and the excuse of a slightly out of shape Batman, but he's in good shape for a human being. Slightly ok shape for Batman.

 

[Travesty]

He looks fine to me. And most importantly, he looks INCREDIBLE in the suit, and that's all that really matters.

I'm not sure why some of you care about his build, when we know exactly what he'll look like in the Batsuit?

 

[georgec]

I wouldn't say he improved his build a lot. He had plenty of time to get ripped. I understand he had another movie and the excuse of a slightly out of shape Batman, but he's in good shape for a human being. Slightly ok shape for Batman.

Great shape for a 40ish Batman who is slightly past his prime, though. He looks just as he needs to - bulky with definition. The goal wasn't to get him ripped.

If people disagree with how Snyder's vision for this Batman should appear, that's another matter, but Affleck looks just right for the role he's going to play.

 

[Jekecy]

Yeah, they really perfected his physique in the batsuit so there should be no qualms there. In the event they have to go for a shirtless scene to show off his actual body, they can always save that for the latter half of filming to give him more time. Fortunately the suit build is locked in, and at a bigger state than he is right now, so there would be no conflicts.

 

[Jekecy]

Satisfaction will not be attained until we get shirtless Batman with a cowl:

 

[Brian Braddock]

A thoughts just occurred to me - nowadays suits are made using such precise measurements that actors are often told to remain at a constant weight/size for the suit to still fit them - if Ben keeps getting bigger/ripping up, doesn't that throw the whole fit of the suit out, or have they gone with a different approach to fitting?

 

[TheTarkKnight]

I don't believe the "older" Batman idea is there so be is not in top shape or semi-retired. I think the idea is that Batman is at this for a while so that he has the experience and chops to actually be able to challenge a super-human.

 

[slumcat]

I think different approach. Cavill looked to be different sizes in the suit at different points in the film.

It would be foolish to tell the actor to stop getting bigger - though it does happen - most famously with Hemsworth in Thor where he was asked to get smaller!

I think the suit should be adjusted to accommodate an actor's increasing physique.

 

[georgec]

I don't believe the "older" Batman idea is there so be is not in top shape or semi-retired. I think the idea is that Batman is at this for a while so that he has the experience and chops to actually be able to challenge a super-human.

Snyder and co. aren't using the older Batman as a reason for Affleck to not be in "top shape". They are doing that because that's the story they want to tell based on inspiration from TDKReturns. It makes sense for the character. Regardless, Affleck is in great shape.

But yes, Batman's experience and chops to challenge Superman come from his technology, ingenuity, and strategy, not his muscles.

 

[hafizbat]

Great shape for a 40ish Batman who is slightly past his prime, though. He looks just as he needs to - bulky with definition. The goal wasn't to get him ripped.

If people disagree with how Snyder's vision for this Batman should appear, that's another matter, but Affleck looks just right for the role he's going to play.

That's not he looks in the suit though. He looks jacked as hell, both huge and ripped.

Ideally, he would look similar to the Batsuit body. I disagree with you about Snyder's vision being for a slightly past-his-prime body, because the Batsuit throws that out the window.

 

[georgec]

The Batsuit greatly accentuates those features, though. It's the type of suit someone with mass can put on and look more ripped than they actually are. That's the point of it (and of most superhero costumes).

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For example, ^that doesn't look like Affleck's six-pack. It looks like a pattern in the material of the suit he's wearing. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a six-pack underneath, but it's not a 1:1 translation from the body underneath the suit to the exterior of the suit. In other words, it doesn't look like the Batfleck suit is a thin skin suit that preserves all the contours and features of the body underneath. It exaggerates and adds a little extra bulk/definition.

I say that as someone who thinks he looks great and fine for the role.

 

[hafizbat]

The Batsuit greatly accentuates those features, though. It's the type of suit someone with mass can put on and look more ripped than they actually are. That's the point of it (and of most superhero costumes).

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For example, ^that doesn't look like Affleck's six-pack. It looks like a pattern in the material of the suit he's wearing. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a six-pack underneath, but it's not a 1:1 translation from the body underneath the suit to the exterior of the suit. In other words, it doesn't look like the Batfleck suit is a thin skin suit that preserves all the contours and features of the body underneath. It exaggerates and adds a little extra bulk/definition.

I say that as someone who thinks he looks great and fine for the role.

Right, but I would prefer that the suit would be based off the physique the actor has built, as they did with Cavill. It's a greater achievement that feels more authentic than what is clearly a molded rubber suit. It kind of spoils the effect when I know the actor underneath is nothing like that. They did it right with Cavill.

Having said that, the Batsuit looks beastly and I'm hoping Affleck can look at least somewhere near it (in terms of body composition).

 

[georgec]

I think it's still very much based off the physique Affleck has built, but it adds a bit more, too.

 

[Bathead]

That's not he looks in the suit though. He looks jacked as hell, both huge and ripped.

Ideally, he would look similar to the Batsuit body. I disagree with you about Snyder's vision being for a slightly past-his-prime body, because the Batsuit throws that out the window.

I don't believe anything has been said specifically about Batman being physically past his prime. All that's been said is that he will be "world weary" and that sounds to me more like he's spiritually and mentally tired rather than physically worn out.

 

[hafizbat]

I don't believe anything has been said specifically about Batman being physically past his prime. All that's been said is that he will be "world weary" and that sounds to me more like he's spiritually and mentally tired rather than physically worn out.

That's definitely what I'm hoping for. It doesn't make much sense to start a fresh Justice League with Batman being old.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Satisfaction will not be attained until we get shirtless Batman with a cowl:

In the suited image Ben looks more buff
I wouldn't cheer for a shirtless image when he's in costume

 

[hafizbat]

Satisfaction will not be attained until we get shirtless Batman with a cowl:

As much as I like that visual, I can't possibly fathom how they'd ever make that work on screen. I'd be happy if we even got a Batman in suit without the cowl t: