BvS BvS Rottentomatoes score - how important will it be, and what do you hope for? - Part 9

[Limonade]

Went to check other films that I liked or loved (several dozens) to see their critics reception... Only very few films got lower scores, IMO, than they deserve:
Leon - 71% with 6.7/10 (WTF, this film is a masterpiece)
Basic Instinct - 54% with 5.9/10
Resident Evil - 33% with 4.5/10 (one of the most dumb critic consensuses I ever witnessed)
Mortal Kombat - 33% with 4.5/10 (Marvel film of 90s)
And of course Man of Steel and Batman v Superman... Reaction is terribly harsh, especially in case of BvS. Oh well...

It's not like I don't understand what's a good film is, or my tastes are terribly different from 99% critic receptions of other films. I'll never accept or agree with the beating this film got.

Hey! Arnold Schwarzenegger films are my favorite. And I know what good movies are too.

I just understand when I mention Schwarzenegger's name I get the eye rolls. But I'm a dude, so I get why certain people won't appreciate what I get out of watching just ridiculous action sequences that does little to move the plot forward.

Don't need to psycho-analyze it, breh. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Kanon]

I just saw that it dropped to 27%. That's 236 rotten reviews. Whoa.

 

[chicagodave]

Anyone who thinks these reviews dont effect future projects well flash lost its director and now it seems Aquaman's director is jumping ship: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/29/aquaman-rumor-james-wan-may-be-next-dc-director-to-exit

 

[Marvel Knight]

Cool. Sounds like they may be putting Flash and Aquaman in development hell.

Smart because they can't do this many films and pull them off.

WB/DC need to focus on a few DC films and do them right. Especially after they couldn't do BVS right after 3 years of work on it.

 

[Timebomb]

Anyone who thinks these reviews dont effect future projects well flash lost its director and now it seems Aquaman's director is jumping ship: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/29/aquaman-rumor-james-wan-may-be-next-dc-director-to-exit

The article mentions that WB is in crisis mode after BVS but they are still keeping Snyder? He got them into this mess in the first place. We need change on the JL now.

If you say "FIRE SNYDER" as a chant, it has a nice ring to it.

 

[kedrell]

Some people say the DD directors cut is a significant improvement. I'll never know for sure.

But yeah BvS is worse.

I'd say it's an improvement but not a significant one. For me it takes a 4/10 movie up to a 5/10 movie. Still crappy, in other words.

 

[Light]

Anyone who thinks these reviews dont effect future projects well flash lost its director and now it seems Aquaman's director is jumping ship: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/29/aquaman-rumor-james-wan-may-be-next-dc-director-to-exit

If any director is going to direct a Superhero movie and it's not attached to Marvel they won't bother., Marvel impeccable reputation has done that, and why would you want to weight your self down with the crap that is the
Snyderverse.

 

[Wylie Times]

Anyone who thinks these reviews dont effect future projects well flash lost its director and now it seems Aquaman's director is jumping ship: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/29/aquaman-rumor-james-wan-may-be-next-dc-director-to-exit

The guy who was set to direct the Flash had no damn business having that spot in the first place.

The Flash would have been his first film, but his previous work on films were as the screenwriter for "Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer", "Pride & Prejudice vs Zombies" and that "Dark Shadows" remake.

That guy getting that opportunity embodies most of what people complain about in regards to cronyism being rampant in Hollywood. Everything that guy was connected to was a critical and financial bomb, yet he was given a HUGE tent pole film for his directorial debut.

James Wan on the other hand has proven he's capable of turning in a blockbuster movie that audiences will love. He was responsible for the first Saw film, he made the Conjuring which is best horror movie of the past 10 yrs, and he directed Furious 7 under the worst possible circumstance (one of the lead characters dying). Whatever issues WB has with James Wan, they better get over it because Wan would probably do a great job with Aquaman.

 

[FunkMiller]

Cool. Sounds like they may be putting Flash and Aquaman in development hell..

Good. I have a Flash I love already, and Aquaman should be further down the line anyway.

 

[warcam]

If you say "FIRE SNYDER" as a chant, it has a nice ring to it.

I'm more partial to "SACK ZACK!"

 

[kedrell]

Good. I have a Flash I love already, and Aquaman should be further down the line anyway.

I always wanted Namor first anyway so this be fine by me.

 

[kedrell]

The guy who was set to direct the Flash had no damn business having that spot in the first place.

The Flash would have been his first film, but his previous work on films were as the screenwriter for "Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer", "Pride & Prejudice vs Zombies" and that "Dark Shadows" remake.

That guy getting that opportunity embodies most of what people complain about in regards to cronyism being rampant in Hollywood. Everything that guy was connected to was a critical and financial bomb, yet he was given a HUGE tent pole film for his directorial debut.

James Wan on the other hand has proven he's capable of turning in a blockbuster movie that audiences will love. He was responsible for the first Saw film, he made the Conjuring which is best horror movie of the past 10 yrs, and he directed Furious 7 under the worst possible circumstance (one of the lead characters dying). Whatever issues WB has with James Wan, they better get over it because Wan would probably do a great job with Aquaman.

I'd suspect it's more like issues he has with them. His brand is red hot right now and theirs simply isn't. He doesn't want to hitch his wagon to a falling star, after all. Not after all the work he just went through to get the mega-success he's earned. Why piss that away? If I were him I'd be knocking on Feige's door.

 

[kedrell]

If any director is going to direct a Superhero movie and it's not attached to Marvel they won't bother., Marvel impeccable reputation has done that, and why would you want to weight your self down with the crap that is the
Snyderverse.

Oh, FOX is still a viable commodity with their superhero films. If you can't get into the MCU at least try over there. Much less of a risk than WB is right now.

 

[dnno1]

27% critic score. Unreal.

The film was not that bad (no way). It a joke and a slap in the face to the film, the director, the studio, and the credibility of film critics. It used to be that a film critic was a journalist who worked for a news paper and was assigned to review films only and not do reporting. Now, with the advent of the internet and social media, anyone can become a film critic without going through the proper credentialing that was once a requirement for the field. I mean, who the heck is Jeff Stuckmann and why isn't his bio on Wikipeda? Just because he hosts a video-blog on YouTube reviewing films, does that make him credible journalist let alone a film critic? I am just using him as an example, but there are many others who voted on RottenTomatoes that I question.

 

[warcam]

The film was not that bad (no way). It a joke and a slap in the face to the film, the director, the studio, and the credibility of film critics. It used to be that a film critic was a journalist who worked for a news paper and was assigned to review films only and not do reporting. Now, with the advent of the internet and social media, anyone can become a film critic without going through the proper credentialing that was once a requirement for the field. I mean, who the heck is Jeff Stuckmann and why isn't his bio on Wikipeda? Just because he hosts a video-blog on YouTube reviewing films, does that make him credible journalist let alone a film critic? I am just using him as an example, but there are many others who voted on RottenTomatoes that I question.

Hey...thank God for the fanboy bloggers, otherwise BvS' score may have been even LOWER.

 

[Wylie Times]

I'd suspect it's more like issues he has with them. His brand is red hot right now and theirs simply isn't. He doesn't want to hitch his wagon to a falling star, after all. Not after all the work he just went through to get the mega-success he's earned. Why piss that away? If I were him I'd be knocking on Feige's door.

Why in the hell should his "brand" be hot right now? Every film he's been connected to has been a complete failure.

 

[kedrell]

Why in the hell should his "brand" be hot right now? Every film he's been connected to has been a complete failure.

I was talking about James Wan. We'ren't you? Wan just made the $1.5b WW Furious 7. His Conjuring movie was greatly praised. That's red hot by any stretch of the imagination in Hollywood.

 

[Wylie Times]

People still running up in here looking at the RT score and saying "The film isn't that bad"....

 

[chicagodave]

I didnt like the movie but for me it was more of a huge dissapointment, to put BvS with the likes of catwoman and GL yea its not that bad. There is a good movie in there somewhere they just couldnt find it.

 

[Wylie Times]

I was talking about James Wan. We'ren't you? Wan just made the $1.5b WW Furious 7. His Conjuring movie was greatly praised. That's red hot by any stretch of the imagination in Hollywood.

You had quoted my entire post. Most of if was about that hack that got fired from the Flash. They cited "Creative differences" as the reason for him "leaving"

The last part of my post was about James Wan. Yeah Wan's brand actually is hot right now. I could see him leaving because he might actually have better offers on the table where he's not limited by the foundation that Snyder laid down.

 

[Wylie Times]

I didnt like the movie but for me it was more of a huge dissapointment, to put with the likes of catwoman and GL yea its not that bad. There is a good movie in there somewhere they just couldnt find it.

That's how MOST people feel about the movie. Very few people (if anybody) are actually saying it's as bad as Green Lantern or Catwoman.

The Average rating from critics for BvS is 4.9/10

When when you actually read the reviews they're mostly saying it's just ok, but incredibly flawed because of the script and editing.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

The film was not that bad (no way). It a joke and a slap in the face to the film, the director, the studio, and the credibility of film critics. It used to be that a film critic was a journalist who worked for a news paper and was assigned to review films only and not do reporting. Now, with the advent of the internet and social media, anyone can become a film critic without going through the proper credentialing that was once a requirement for the field. I mean, who the heck is Jeff Stuckmann and why isn't his bio on Wikipeda? Just because he hosts a video-blog on YouTube reviewing films, does that make him credible journalist let alone a film critic? I am just using him as an example, but there are many others who voted on RottenTomatoes that I question.

I don't know what you're complaining about. The RT % among Top Critics is a point lower with an identical (4.9) rating.

 

[kedrell]

You had quoted my entire post. Most of if was about that hack that got fired from the Flash. They cited "Creative differences" as the reason for him "leaving"

The last part of my post was about James Wan. Yeah Wan's brand actually is hot right now. I could see him leaving because he might actually have better offers on the table where he's not limited by the foundation that Snyder laid down.

My mistake. I should have just bolded the part I was referring to.

 

[Matt]

My mistake. I should have just bolded the part I was referring to.

For what its worth, I knew who you were talking about. The context of your post is pretty clear. Wylie is just being a bit of a grump, it would sem.

 

[kedrell]

Wouldn't it be rather funny if he did indeed end up going across the street and helming a Submariner movie. Or at least a movie with the Submariner in it(I know Universal still has the rights to a stand alone movie about Namor) like maybe an Invaders movie that ended up being a back-door origin story for Subby.