C. Nolan's Interstellar - Part 2

[Sawyer]

He had awesome chemistry with Rebecca Hall, so I'd disagree with the "never" description. Fact is Rachel Dawes was a horribly written character, so Maggie had no real interest in throwing herself into the role. Katie is just a bad actress so it was irrelevant how hard she might have tried.

You can't talk like this. Sarah, shut up. Sarah, SHUT UP!!!

 

[Laderlappen]

Well, Ledger wasn't really viewed as one of the greats until afterwards. Before Joker, he got acclaim for Brokeback but he wasn't like, "this kid is one of the most sought after ever."

Was Christian Bale? Or any actor younger than 40 cast or not cast by Nolan.

 

[kvz5]

Yup , Prestige, And in New World his relationship with Pocahontas is beautifully represented.

I'd add Ni Ni in Flowers of War too but I think only like 50 people have seen that movie.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I haven't watched all of Bale's films so I could be wrong but chemistry with his female co-stars isn't a strong suit of his. I thought he was okay with Hall and great with Hathaway but who besides James Franco wouldn't have at least a little chemistry with her? It wasn't a romantic relationship in The Fighter but he was fine with Adams and that's why I'm not worried about them in American Hustle. It's going to be interesting to see what kind of chemistry he has Jennifer Lawrence.

 

[Laderlappen]

The lack of chemistry has more to do with the writing than Christian Bale. In the Batman movies its clearly the problem. Also Bale seems to simply rarely do romantic roles.

 

[shauner111]

So far I felt chemistry between him and Hathaway and Amy Adams. Like somebody else mentioned, he's in Malick's new film and he's shot several scenes with like a dozen women. From pics alone I felt chemistry between him and Natalie Portman but we'll see how that translates on screen or if it even makes it into the film lol.

 

[Snow Queen]

Wait. There's another Malick movie this year? Fantastic, I won't have to wait year to see another review of one.

 

[Drizzle]

That's because the trilogy was all about the bromance. Selina and Rachel can eat ****. It was all about Bats/Gordon.

Batman: A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders to let him know that the world hadn't ended.

Gordon:

 

[Sawyer]

Batman: A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders to let him know that the world hadn't ended.

Gordon:

That's love, brah.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This might be strange coming from someone who likes Batman Beyond but that "Batman can be anyone" sentiment didn't set well with me last year and still doesn't. It's not a deal breaker of a sentiment or anything as I respect a filmmaker's right and encourage different versions of these comicbook characters on the big screen, provided it's done well. It's a cute sentiment but unless one has Batman's billions to buy "those wonderful toys" how far would one really get? How far did Mr. "HockeyPads" dude get in Nolan's own film?

 

[redfirebird2008]

This might be strange coming from someone who likes Batman Beyond but that "Batman can be anyone" sentiment didn't set well with me last year and still doesn't. It's not a deal breaker of a sentiment or anything as I respect a filmmaker's right and encourage different versions of these comicbook characters on the big screen, provided it's done well. It's a cute sentiment but unless one has Batman's billions to buy "those wonderful toys" how far would one really get? How far did Mr. "HockeyPads" dude get in Nolan's own film?

Blake is about a million times smarter than that guy. Why make the comparison?

 

[kvz5]

This might be strange coming from someone who likes Batman Beyond but that "Batman can be anyone" sentiment didn't set well with me last year and still doesn't. It's not a deal breaker of a sentiment or anything as I respect a filmmaker's right and encourage different versions of these comicbook characters on the big screen, provided it's done well. It's a cute sentiment but unless one has Batman's billions to buy "those wonderful toys" how far would one really get? How far did Mr. "HockeyPads" dude get in Nolan's own film?

Never liked it either. I approve of the "a hero can be anyone" message but I can't buy the "anyone can be Batman" one.

 

[Sawyer]

This might be strange coming from someone who likes Batman Beyond but that "Batman can be anyone" sentiment didn't set well with me last year and still doesn't. It's not a deal breaker of a sentiment or anything as I respect a filmmaker's right and encourage different versions of these comicbook characters on the big screen, provided it's done well. It's a cute sentiment but unless one has Batman's billions to buy "those wonderful toys" how far would one really get? How far did Mr. "HockeyPads" dude get in Nolan's own film?

Don't ruin the Gordon/Bruce moment for me, Spidey!!!

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Blake is about a million times smarter than that guy. Why make the comparison?

Never liked it either. I approve of the "a hero can be anyone" message but I can't buy the "anyone can be Batman" one.

Right, it's the specificity of the phrase that bothers me more than anything. Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a special guy and I'm sorry but not anyone can be as special as billion dollar super genius Bruce Wayne. I guess I have a hard time buying that Batman is "just" a symbol and nothing more. I mean it just makes Wayne seem less special than he is supposed to be.

Don't ruin the Gordon/Bruce moment for me, Spidey!!!

That moment was never special to me for a myriad of reasons but I'll leave that for the Bat-Boards.

 

[Sawyer]

That moment was never special to me for a myriad of reasons but I'll leave that for the Bat-Boards.

And here I thought we were friends...

 

[redfirebird2008]

Right, it's the specificity of the phrase that bothers me more than anything. Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a special guy and I'm sorry but not anyone can be as special as billion dollar super genius Bruce Wayne. I guess I have a hard time buying that Batman is "just" a symbol and nothing more. I mean it just makes Wayne seem less special than he is supposed to be.

It does tie back into what Bruce and Alfred talked about in Batman Begins. The fans kind of glossed over that part of the film, but apparently Nolan and his co-writers took it pretty seriously since they chose to re-visit the idea and expand on it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

And here I thought we were friends...

Friends can disagree you big baby.

It does tie back into what Bruce and Alfred talked about in Batman Begins. The fans kind of glossed over that part of the film, but apparently Nolan and his co-writers took it pretty seriously since they chose to re-visit the idea and expand on it.

Eh, I don't care where the germ of the idea started, it's just not my favorite idea in the Nolan series. It doesn't ruin the series for me and at least it's an interesting way to go about things but I perfer Bruce Wayne be someone special. Ultimately I appreciate that Goyer and Nolan did their own thing with the character and didn't copy what came before.

 

[Rocketman]

I agree that the message is a little confusing, because you have a group of guys in hockeypads in TDK who Batman says shouldn't be Batmen. Then he turns around and says that anyone could be Batman.

However, I get what it's ultimately trying to say.

Not everyone can be Batman. A group of men in hockeypads cannot be Batman.
However, anyone can be Batman. Any child who witnessed his parents murdered could be Batman. Anyone who develops the skill and acquires the resources or money could be Batman. Bruce Wayne is "anyone." He is special, and so is John Blake.

In other words, you can't just put on a Batman mask and "be" Batman. You have to be Batman before putting on the mask. That's why Bruce Wayne is special, and why Blake is special.

Another way to look at it would be like looking at a crowd of a thousand people. Out of that thousand people, not everyone could be Batman. However, anyone could be Batman. Bruce could be among that group of a thousand. John Blake could be in that group, etc.

If anything, the idea totally reinforces how special Bruce is. Not only could Batman be anybody, but Bruce actually did it. He actually was the person who went beyond the "could" and became something.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Blake was not special. He was barely an adequate cop.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm one of the few who loved Blake but he hardly showed that he was Batman special in the film.

 

[747]

Many people misinterpretate the "Batman can be anyone" sentiment. It would be way different if it was "everyone can be Batman". It's about the symbol, not the person behind it. I don't really care about what happens to Blake after TDKR, it's the idea that the ending sets up that I take with me. It's not like Blake went out that night trying to be Batman. He would need his own journey. One journey begins, another one ends.

Anyway, I love it. And I get if many don't, but I respect some dislikes of it more than others. Some people take the idea of TDKR too literally.

 

[Sawyer]

Blake was not special. He was barely an adequate cop.

Pffft. He figured out who Batman was.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^And I will defend that scene until my dying breath. It's goofy when you think about it but it's so well acted and handled that I don't care.

 

[Schlosser85]

I liked Blake.

Also, Hathaway is about the only woman I've ever seen Bale have chemistry with. He's just too cold and aloof to click with people.

 

[StarLord]

Pffft. He figured out who Batman was.

By a look on his face. John Blake is a genius.