I would love that, but I just can't see it happening, mainly because of Catwoman not having the equipment Batman has. I doubt Nolan would have her using a whip to get around places like she does on there and in the comics. Maybe she could use a grappling hook as well, but even then, I can't see him having her doing some of the more interesting stunts on there. It's one thing to jump from the top of a skyscraper when you have a magic cape, but it's quite another to do that when you don't have any form of flying or gliding device on you.
Not even his batman can do that. Unless they give him a new grapple gun that also pulls the line, there is no way he can be this agile while trying to put the line in his belt mechanism. Its too clunky.
And that's why i always ask for some little movie magic so that Batman will feel lighter on his feet. He moves like Kickass or you and me, ergo too realistically, and i would prefer BTAS-like boosted abilities. Faster, more agile, making longer jumps, etc.
Eh, I can't say I could ever get behind this, "it's part of the suspension of disbelief with superhero movies" stance. That's one flimsy argument, imo. It's one thing to sit and talk to the Joker in an interrogation room when he has urgent info you need. Or to try and talk down Two-Face when he's holding a hostage. It's a whole other thing to stop and flirt with a catburglar whose sole objective is to evade you and escape with her score. Maybe she'd spout a few things at him in the pursuit, but I doubt they'd manage much more than that.I really don't see this at all. You can say what you want about the villains, but Batman himself certainly has a vested interest in keeping his identity secret, and yet that doesn't seem to stop him from chatting it up with criminals, cops, whoever will listen!He sat down, face to face, in harsh lighting, with a man he thought wanted to kill him.
These masked characters always end up talking to one another, voices and secret identities be damned. It's part of the suspension of disbelief inherent in superhero stories. And Nolan doesn't seem concerned with shying away from that, so I highly doubt he'd change that approach when it comes to two characters whose costumed interplay is so crucial to their relationship.
True.
And there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to do all that. If he can grapple a speeding monorail without his arms being ripped off, or fall onto a car (while holding Rachel, no less) and walk away without a scratch, a few slightly exaggerated stunts shouldn't be out of the question. He doesn't have to do acrobatics like Spider-Man, but it wouldn't hurt him to move like, y'know, Batman.
Actually, I was done with accent debate. I'm just talking in general - I expect the Batman/Catwoman encounters to be brief and minimal, probably just a couple of rooftop action sequences. After all, IF Catwoman is in, the buzz is that she won't even be a villain, and I would assume that most of Batman's screentime will likely be used to deal with his main problem - whoever the actual villain is. So I personally find it most likely that Bruce/Selina will make up the majority of Selina/Catwoman's screentime. Just based on how Nolan has handled all the meaty actor/character interaction (minus the Joker) in the past.
I agree.True.
And there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to do all that. If he can grapple a speeding monorail without his arms being ripped off, or fall onto a car (while holding Rachel, no less) and walk away without a scratch, a few slightly exaggerated stunts shouldn't be out of the question. He doesn't have to do acrobatics like Spider-Man, but it wouldn't hurt him to move like, y'know, Batman.
Catwoman with no flirting and no banter? Yeah i can see Nolan being serious and no fun enough to do that.
Nolan being too serious and/or not having enough fun is seriously one of the dumbest things I've read on this site.Catwoman with no flirting and no banter? Yeah i can see Nolan being serious and no fun enough to do that.
You aint seen nothing yet. Just watch this:OK, I've never seen this show, and don't kill me but I can't believe GA's dialogue and voice. He sounds like he could be Robin. Can that be comic-referenced? And that Batman-Catwoman chat-fight had some serious S&M undertones. I thought this show was for kids?
Did you miss the part where I said I thought the flirting would mostly be between Bruce/Selina, and not absent from the film entirely?I agree.
As for the train thing, i think his harness has some give so that it wont snap. In Batgirl Year One, Batman cuts her rope while Robin saves her because it was a rope used for climbing and would have ripped her arms off. They later give her proper bat ropes.
It will be glorious[BLACKOUT]ly boring.[/BLACKOUT]
But Bruce and Selina come second. Its always about the thrills of stealing, running from Batman, jumping off rooftops, etc. And for Batman its always the allure of a woman in a catsuit, breaking the law, seeking his attention, playing with his emotions. She isnt just another woman for Bruce. She is Catwoman, and catwoman works best with Batman.
Eh... maybe....
Eh, I disagree there. But this is all just pointless speculation anyway, considering we don't even know she's in the film yet. But to clarify my stance, I think Catwoman will see plenty of screen-time and Batman will see plenty of screen-time, I'm just not convinced much of that screen-time will be together, in-costumes. That is, I'm betting most of their joint screen-time will be as Bruce/Selina. So screentime-wise, I do agree that the ratio between them and their alter-egos will probably be about 50/50, it's just how much of that will be Batman/Catwoman together that I'm questioning. Also, if they ARE going with the "Catwoman's taking up the mantle of Batman while he's on the run" angle, then she may have her own subplot going on that wouldn't cross paths with Batman's 'till he's finally able to confront her later in the film. Who knows.
Sorry, that's not the Catwoman I've read.But Bruce and Selina come second. Its always about the thrills of stealing, running from Batman, jumping off rooftops, etc. And for Batman its always the allure of a woman in a catsuit, breaking the law, seeking his attention, playing with his emotions. She isnt just another woman for Bruce. She is Catwoman, and catwoman works best with Batman.Eh... maybe....
t:See, this is what I don't get. Even if they veer closer to the BTAS version, Selina is at first dismissive toward Bruce Wayne for wasting his wealth when he could be helping. She's a very politically-driven individual, and very passionate about her ideals. Which gives Bruce/Selina plenty to talk about, as we know Bruce Wayne's playboy persona is a facade - and here's one person from his socialite world that hates it the same way he does, yet he doesn't want to give himself away. If I were a writer, that dynamic would be SO fun to play with. Maybe she's the one who pushes him toward the "Bruce Wayne: Philanthropist" image, idk. There's just so much interesting interaction and character development to be had there, imo. You know Nolan loves to have his debates about the state of Gotham and human nature - Selina would totally be the perfect vessel for him to do that with this time around.
Sorry, that's not the Catwoman I've read.
For the record, I'm basing all of this on Brubaker's Catwoman, as those are the only Catwoman stories I've read. And in those, she actually has a mission and a passion for the people of Gotham and finds a kindred spirit in Bruce/Batman, even when they don't see eye to eye. And it's Selina just as much as it's Catwoman.
To say that what makes her unique is that their interactions are in-costume really cheapens their connection, imo.
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