Chapter 6: "The Line" Discussion 10/29/07

[Matt]

Okay, I'm as annoyed by West as much as the next guy, but I'm tolerating it. It's obvious West has something up, and it's completely stupid to reveal it this early in the season.

But its been building up for a quarter of the season. EVERY episode so far, for a quarter of a season has been build up. Where is the pay off? Granted, they don't have to give the big season ending pay off this soon, but where is the little, early season story arc pay off? There is absolutely no sense of pacing. There wasn't last season either.

Like I said, either something has to happen with all these "build ups" or otherwise the show will be pointless. Why watch 20 episodes of "build up" episodes for 2 good episodes at the end of the year when I can get the just of it from Wikipedia and watch the last 2 episodes of the season?

 

[The Caped Knight]

It looks like Hiro is responsible for starting the evil company due to that betrayal

I agree

I'm getting the feeling now more than ever before that Hiro is the real Legendary Kensei , and this other guy is the fake .

 

[Jennifer Walters]

That's all the *****ing in this thread is about. The lack of patience. I think the show is still amazing.

 

[Eddie Brock]

But its been building up for a quarter of the season. EVERY episode so far, for a quarter of a season has been build up. Where is the pay off? Granted, they don't have to give the big season ending pay off this soon, but where is the little, early season story arc pay off? There is absolutely no sense of pacing. There wasn't last season either.

Like I said, either something has to happen with all these "build ups" or otherwise the show will be pointless. Why watch 20 episodes of "build up" episodes for 2 good episodes at the end of the year when I can get the just of it from Wikipedia and watch the last 2 episodes of the season?

Last Season, we didn't get a "pay-off" until Episode 8: Homecoming.

So you're jumping the gun here.

 

[Matt]

that wouldn't make any sense. If you want to tell a story, you don't brush a character aside till the big reveal without building things up. Not every character has to be involved in the murder mystery/virus plot/whatever.

Ok, then give her something interesting to do. Either use the character in a way that interests the audience or don't use her at all. They've established the trust with West. Do they really need to spend half an episode showing it in the most juvenile ways possible?

 

[DarkSuperman]

But come on, you let one or two boring parts of an episode ruin the show for you?

Exactly, some people need to pipe down and be quiet. Far as I'm concerned the show is moving just the same as last year. Only now people use their powers more openly. You have to build to a climax. Its a tv show people. You're supposed to watch continuously. What? You want every episode to be a season finale? Let them tantalize you until they drop the big one on you. Earn the reward and quit being babies.

HRG was Cool, Maya turning to the dark side also cool, Kensei going all Lando Calrissian on Hiro SUPER COOL. I can't wait to see where these decisions take them. Heroes is still the coolest show on the planet despite a couple of you being impatient and hard to please.

 

[War Party]

The show is definitely awesome. It's better than more than half of the crap on TV right now.

 

[Xplicit Content]

My personal musings on this episode...

#1 - HELL NAH!! @ Irish b*tch calling Roni a b*tch...Listen b*tch, Elle's gonna fry your ass next and make u even more unfortunate looking.

#2 - Cool @ the iPod Bob gave Monica to augment her power. Dude might actually be cool. I was ready drop kick a bald bastid for taking away one of the coolest powers on the show.

#3 - Hmmm @ this new threat that Bob needs Suresh for. Seems like this Adam cat was friends with Peter before he decided to be a worthless amnesiac...hit your head on the nearest blunt object, Pete...maybe that will jog your memory.t:

#4 - Ugh @ borin' ass Japan again...she ain't even that hot, Hiro...get over it. At least it's picking up now that Kensei is starting his career in villainry. Nice going, Cassanova.

#5 - Ha @ the cheerleader ownage. Head cheerleaders everywhere, beware...Claire is bad news. At least this head cheerleader survived.

#6 - Niiiiice @ HRG returning to his career as morally ambiguous.

#7 - Meh @ The apocolyptic future...again. Hopefully it'll be more interesting than the past has been for Hiro.

#8 - Niki is acting way too shady. Hello, Jessica.

#9 - Maya is oh-fically a pawn. Come on, Maya...you're making it difficult for me to like you after we started out so well. So what if it was primarily due to the fact that you're hot.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I really don't think Sylar is going to be the huge threat this season. Something else is definitely up. But that's just my guess.

It's either Maya's the major threat or The Company's (Cure) drug .

 

[Matt]

Last Season, we didn't get a "pay-off" until Episode 8: Homecoming.

So you're jumping the gun here.

Episode 8 this year is the 4 months ago episode. Hardly sounds like a pay off, more like more explanitory dialogue to me.

 

[The Chairman]

But its been building up for a quarter of the season. EVERY episode so far, for a quarter of a season has been build up. Where is the pay off? Granted, they don't have to give the big season ending pay off this soon, but where is the little, early season story arc pay off? There is absolutely no sense of pacing. There wasn't last season either.

Like I said, either something has to happen with all these "build ups" or otherwise the show will be pointless. Why watch 20 episodes of "build up" episodes for 2 good episodes at the end of the year when I can get the just of it from Wikipedia and watch the last 2 episodes of the season?

I frankly couldn't care less. Things are going to build up. I'm glad they're not taking their time and rushing things. I think that maybe before the holiday break we'll get a big turning point.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

The apocalyptic future thing isn't quite so impressive after it was averted the 1st time

 

[DarkSuperman]

Ok, then give her something interesting to do. Either use the character in a way that interests the audience or don't use her at all. They've established the trust with West. Do they really need to spend half an episode showing it in the most juvenile ways possible?

Why not? They're teenagers...that what they do.

 

[Matt]

Tsk, tsk. I can see this thread is simply full of apologists and the show could be an hour of paint drying and they would defend it, so I'm done with this thread. See ya guys next week, here's hoping for something better.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Episode 8 this year is the 4 months ago episode. Hardly sounds like a pay off, more like more explanitory dialogue to me.

So this year it won't be Episode 8. It's not a rule.

I'm just pointing out that we had to wait 8 episodes for a pay-off last year. It's been 6 episodes and people are already getting annoyingly impatient.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Everyone here has to think the same way as you do Matt

 

[Abaddon]

Ok, then give her something interesting to do. Either use the character in a way that interests the audience or don't use her at all. They've established the trust with West. Do they really need to spend half an episode showing it in the most juvenile ways possible?

well it was a little amusing. to me anyway. The point of this episode was the misuse of abilities, and they did that well.

I think they actually meant for Debbie to be a lesbian and something was to come of that, but the actress joined Desperate Housewives.

 

[LeChuck]

My personal musings on this episode...

#1 - HELL NAH!! @ Irish b*tch calling Roni a b*tch...Listen b*tch, Elle's gonna fry your ass next and make u even more unfortunate looking.

#2 - Cool @ the iPod Bob gave Monica to augment her power. Dude might actually be cool. I was ready drop kick a bald bastid for taking away one of the coolest powers on the show.

#3 - Hmmm @ this new threat that Bob needs Suresh for. Seems like this Adam cat was friends with Peter before he decided to be a worthless amnesiac...hit your head on the nearest blunt object, Pete...maybe that will jog your memory.t:

#4 - Ugh @ borin' ass Japan again...she ain't even that hot, Hiro...get over it. At least it's picking up now that Kensei is starting his career in villainry. Nice going, Cassanova.

#5 - Ha @ the cheerleader ownage. Head cheerleaders everywhere, beware...Claire is bad news. At least this head cheerleader survived.

#6 - Niiiiice @ HRG returning to his career as morally ambiguous.

#7 - Meh @ The apocolyptic future...again. Hopefully it'll be more interesting than the past has been for Hiro.

#8 - Niki is acting way too shady. Hello, Jessica.

#9 - Maya is oh-fically a pawn. Come on, Maya...you're making it difficult for me to like you after we started out so well. So what if it was primarily due to the fact that you're hot.

Haha you're awesome. Let's have secks.

 

[DarkSuperman]

The apocalyptic future thing isn't quite so impressive after it was averted the 1st time

Well last time it was just a city...this time its the whole world! I think that the virus will be manipulated to target only ordinary humans. I think normal people are the 93% that are destroyed by the virus. Leaving all super humans left. I think that's the ultimate goal of the mystery villain this season.

I'm just speculating though. I could be wrong.

Oh, and yes, LeChuck...that "Super Skill Ipod" was sweet!

 

[Matt]

So this year it won't be Episode 8. It's not a rule.

I'm just pointing out that we had to wait 8 episodes for a pay-off last year. It's been 6 episodes and people are already getting annoyingly impatient.

Its not annoyingly impatient when you go 6 episodes (again, a quarter of a season) with absolutely NO pay off at all.

 

[Abaddon]

Tsk, tsk. I can see this thread is simply full of apologists and the show could be an hour of paint drying and they would defend it, so I'm done with this thread. See ya guys next week, here's hoping for something better.

puh-lease.

 

[Matt]

Everyone here has to think the same way as you do Matt

No, I simply do not see the point of us arguing. I am greatly out numbered here, so I'm not going to sit here and respond to every post of nonstop gushing. We just have to agree to disagree.

 

[LeChuck]

Matt and I are both probably gonna have to stop watching midseason so we have to make excuses okay people!!! Tony Almeida is calling!!!

 

[Eddie Brock]

Its not annoyingly impatient when you go 6 episodes (again, a quarter of a season) with absolutely NO pay off at all.

Go rewatch last year through Episode 6: Better Halves.

Find me your "pay-off."

...

Exactly, there wasn't one until 2 episodes later. So calm the f*** down and just watch the damn show.

 

[Matt]

Matt and I are both probably gonna have to stop watching midseason so we have to make excuses okay people!!! Tony Almeida is calling!!!

Hehe thank god for TiVO huh?