Contest of Marvels II Thread 3

[wiegeabo]

New Sun vs Fandral

Fanrdal has some mad sword wielding skills, and the advantages of Asgardian physiology.

Unfortunately, he's up against New Sun.

Location and prep-time do nothing for either character. So when the match starts, they'll be going into it blind.

It doesn't matter who finds who first, or how the battle starts. Because all New Sun has to do is blow stuff up from a distance. He could charge Fandral's sword, detonating it in his hand. If that doesn't hurt Fandral, it will the least make him weaponless.

New Sun could also charge and explode the objects around Fandral. With his Asgardian body, he may be able to avoid serious injury this way, but he can still get knocked around pretty good.

New Sun could also just steal the energy from the area around him, 'freezing' Fandral in place. Then Fandral would be at New Sun's mercy, unable to move or defend himself.

And, of course, if he's feeling particularly vicious or threatened, New Sun could always blow off parts of Fandral's body. New Sun isn't a conventional villain, but he'd have no qualms about doing this if he thought it necessary.

Fandral's been dashing through the rounds so far, but now he's up against a powerhouse he has no defense against.


New Sun wins

 

[kytrigger]

Baldur (AHURA MAZDA) bio

vs.

Airwalker (KYTRIGGER) bio

This is a match where Balder is just out of his league.

Powers:
Balder is a great Asgardian fighter. He has strength (35 ton category) and extra endurance and durability like all Asgardians. He can also shoot concussive blasts of light. In the realm of Asgard, he can only be harmed by misletoe.

Air-Walker is a robot that was a herald of Galactus. He wields the power cosmic which give him flight, energy manipulation/blasts, superstrength (85 ton category) and super-speed. Now that he's a robot he also has very good healing/repairing abilities.

Now, a VERY important thing to note here is that Baldur is not invincible. It has been shown that the invincible spell only worksin the Asgard dimension and is void anywhere else.

As for prep time it is a wash. Neither will know anything about the other.

FOr the battle, Baldur will of course put up a good fight, but he is simply outmatched here. Air-walker is much stronger than Baldur and much faster as well. He can also fly giving him much more range of motion.

Baldur can shoto enregy, but it's nothign compared to Air-Walker's energy powers. Baldur shoots light, Air-walker shoots power cosmic. There really isn't a comparison. Air-walker's energy manipulation is much better and stronger than Baldur's.

Not only that, but Air-walker can heal himslef very quickly while Baldur really can't.

Baldur is a great character, but he is just outmatched here on every front.

 

[kytrigger]

Rebuttal

This is an interesting match up between a powerful member of Asgard who is invulnerable with powers of heat and light against one of the weaker ex-heralds.

And by wewaker ex-herald you mean "weaker than Surfer, but still much stronger than Baldur".

Also, Baldur is only invincible in Asgard.

Now neither will know each other or the location. But Blader is a warrior born and as such will take the batttle to his opponent.

Both are born warriors. Air-walker was a highly distinguished member of the Nova Corps before becoming Galactus' favorite herald (until Surfer).

Strength wise they will be relatively evenly matched. Balder's powers over heat and light can counteract Airwalker's sub standard power cosmic (losing his herald status took allot away from him).

Air-walker is much stronger than Baldur who's only in the 35 ton category. And his heat and light blasts are a joke compared to anyone who wield power cosmic, even an ex-herald. Air-walker flies through space next to freaking suns. a heat ray ain't gonna hurt him.

Blader will have impervious swords capable of harming Air Walker and the one thing AIr Walker can do is harm Balder (mistletoe is the only thing that can harm him and 1. Airwalker will not know that and 2. he could not get any even if he did know).

A sword is pretty useless considerign the fact that Airwalker can fly and is much faster than Baldur.

And the mistletoe thign is completely void since he doesn't have his invincibility powers.

Without his invincibility Balder is absolutely overpowered in this match. Anything he can do, Airwalker does much better.

Winner- Air-walker

 

[Ahura Mazda]

This is a match where Balder is just out of his league.

Powers:
Balder is a great Asgardian fighter. He has strength (35 ton category) and extra endurance and durability like all Asgardians. He can also shoot concussive blasts of light. In the realm of Asgard, he can only be harmed by misletoe.

He can actually radiate any degree of heat and/or light. It is not just some simple concussive blasts.

Air-Walker is a robot that was a herald of Galactus. He wields the power cosmic which give him flight, energy manipulation/blasts, superstrength (85 ton category) and super-speed. Now that he's a robot he also has very good healing/repairing abilities.

The key word is was and as an ex-herald he does not hold the same amount of power cosmic as he did when he was one. Thor defeated Air-Walker using brute force and actually destroyed his healing abilities.

Also to note, that the first time, when he lost a battle to the Silver Surfer it took him 3 months to repair himself.

Now, a VERY important thing to note here is that Baldur is not invincible. It has been shown that the invincible spell only worksin the Asgard dimension and is void anywhere else.

In mythology, this was not the case and he was just as impervious in Midgard (Earth). Marvel don't know what they are talking about . Seriously, he does retain a measure of invulnerabality which his Asgardian physiology provides and the full body armor he wears which is made out of An Asgardian substance that can literally absorb just about anything.

As for prep time it is a wash. Neither will know anything about the other.

Agreed

FOr the battle, Baldur will of course put up a good fight, but he is simply outmatched here. Air-walker is much stronger than Baldur and much faster as well. He can also fly giving him much more range of motion.

Baldur can shoto enregy, but it's nothign compared to Air-Walker's energy powers. Baldur shoots light, Air-walker shoots power cosmic. There really isn't a comparison. Air-walker's energy manipulation is much better and stronger than Baldur's.

This is where I do not agree. Bladur can project any level of heat or light meaning he can project heat as hot as a super nova or light so intense as to blind air walker. He often doesn't use the extent of his powers as he does not need to in the realm of Asgard but as the God of Light he has those powers. Air Walker's command of the power cosmic is not too great given the amount of defeats he has. Also let us not forget that Firewalker lost against Spiderman once and he was not an ex-herald weaker then Air-Walker.

Not only that, but Air-walker can heal himslef very quickly while Baldur really can't.

I completely disagree with this given everytime i have seen him, either his self repairing is malfunctioning or takes quite a while to kick in. And when I say quite a while, I am talking about a few hours to a months. Yes very minor damage goes quickly but not the type of damage Balder can do with his swords.

I think this match is allot more even then some people would think. Balder is a military genius with centuries of experience. He has fought trolls, dark elves, ice giants, demons and it is not a wannabe robot ex-herald that will put away the God of Light, Balder.


Winner- Balder

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Rebuttal And by wewaker ex-herald you mean "weaker than Surfer, but still much stronger than Baldur".

No I mean weaker then quite a few, the Silver Surfer being on top of that list.

Also, Baldur is only invincible in Asgard.

es I amswered that one but he remains an Asgardian warrior who wears incredible armour.

Both are born warriors. Air-walker was a highly distinguished member of the Nova Corps before becoming Galactus' favorite herald (until Surfer).

Let me put this another way, a God with thousands of years of experience as a warrrior against a robot with less then a century.

Air-walker is much stronger than Baldur who's only in the 35 ton category. And his heat and light blasts are a joke compared to anyone who wield power cosmic, even an ex-herald. Air-walker flies through space next to freaking suns. a heat ray ain't gonna hurt him. A sword is pretty useless considerign the fact that Airwalker can fly and is much faster than Baldur.

Nobody has measured how hot nor how intense Balder's rays can get. They could be supernova hot, core of the sun hot. The rays can be so intense as to blind anyone. He is the God of light and this his domain. We have not seen the limit of his powers.

And the mistletoe thign is completely void since he doesn't have his invincibility powers.

Just in case, I thought I would mention it.

balder does have a good chance in this battle given noone knows how extreme his non-physical powers are. thor has mastery of the weather and everyone knows how powerful his mastery of it is. balder's mastery of light and heat will be comperable and therefore Airwalker cuold find himself melting against the might of the great Balder.

Winner- Balder

 

[Harlekin]

FINAL COMMENTS: Fandral vs New Sun

This is truly the test for Fandral (who I may remind you, is quite dashing). Neither know anything of the other, and that makes this match a little hard for them. I'm pretty sure New Sun is not ruthless enough to just <bam!> explode people on sight, so Fandral should be able to ---

Ah forget it.

Fandral got to bang Rogue before Gambit ever did.

WINNER=FANDRAL

 

[wiegeabo]

Nimrod vs Emma Frost

What a bad match up for Emma. Actually, for any mutant, matching up against Nimrod is bad. Nimrod was designed to destroy mutants, and that's just what he can do to Emma.

Both characters undoubtedly know about each other. Location probably doesn't do much for Emma, but having access to the technology on Avalon can only help Nimrod.


Emma's telepathy is useless here since Nimrod has no mind to attack. So she'll undoubtedly stay in diamond form. The good thing about this is she'll get amped up strength and become virtually invulnerable.

The problem with her diamond form is its flaw. Apparently Frost has a flaw in her face that, when exploited, causes her to shatter. Nimrod's sensors are easily advanced enough to scan for and detect this flaw (if one of the U-Foes can see it with just microscopic vision, Nimrod sensors can find it). Once found, he can strike it physically, or from a distance with a blast (Emma was shattered with a bullet to the face, so a blast of energy should work too).

Of course, Nimrod could end the fight another way. If Emma somehow gives him a hard time, he can blow open a hole into space. Emma will be blown out by the escaping atmosphere (it won't kill her, but ring her out) while Nimrod can teleport to an undamaged part of the station. Or Nimrod can interface with Avalon's technology and use it against Emma.

Nimrod just has too many resources at his disposal for Emma to counter. He's designed to fight mutants, repair himself if damaged, and adapt. Emma's finally in over her head.


Nimrod wins

 

[Phaedrus45]

Nimrod vs. Emma Frost:

Nimrod is finally screwed, due to prep-time and Emma's full access to Xavier's database and information provided. First, let's catch the voter up with the last history of Nimrod. (Remember, the events in Child's Play are not to be used; so, that is not the most recent Nimrod in use. You will see the one that will be grabbed.)

However, when Nimrod came across a piece of the gigantic Sentinel Master Mold while working on a construction site, his programming was immediately co-opted and Master Mold merged with Nimrod, using its systems to rebuild Nimrod in its own image. The X-Men were hard pressed to defeat the reborn Master Mold at first, but Nimrod came to their aid, claiming he had evolved as well, and no longer viewed them or mutants as a threat. Nimrod asserted enough control over the Master Mold to render it immobile, and even convinced it that it had become a mutant as well; thus, to fulfill its prime directive to exterminate mutants, it must self-destruct. The remains of both robots were pushed through the Seige Perilous, a mystical gateway that caused all who passed through it to be reborn with new bodies. Nimrod and Master Mold were merged into one being: Bastion.
Bastion was a human-looking android that possessed great insight into the political process and initiated Operation: Zero Tolerance, a government-sponsored program to eliminate mutant terrorist groups, including the X-Men. Bastion was eventually revealed when it was discovered he was turning humans into a new breed of Sentinels. He was promptly dismantled.
In X-Force #35, a modern-day version of Nimrod appeared. This Nimrod was created by anti-mutant survivalist groups, and was based on the technology derived from the Nimrod from the future. It deactivated itself when Cable convinced it that its existence could cause a paradox and damage the timestream.

So, Emma would know the last version that existed was the one in X-Force #35. Since this version is now destroyed, Emma would have Cable's files on this battle and know how to repeat it's destruction. (Emma is very smart, and will be able to perform this same feat.) After all, the key to defeating many enemies is knowledge of what's worked in the past. This version of Nimrod will not been destroyed by Cable yet; so, it's up to Emma to do the exact same thing. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Winner = Emma Frost

 

[wiegeabo]

Warlock - M Tech vs Jean Grey

If Warlock didn't have access to X-Files, he might be in bad shape after prep-time. Or, with his powers, maybe not.

Location heavily favors Warlock because he can interface with the technology. Better yet, he can merge with the technology and spread himself across the entire station. Jean wouldn't be able to detect where Warlock is because, either he'll be undetectable because he's techno-organic, or because he'll be everywhere in the station.

Warlock can use Avalon's defenses against Jean. And if he gets the chance, he'll infect her with the virus and take control of her. And this can happen because he'll be able to overwhelm her with attacks. Jean's telekinesis has it's limits so he may just have to push her until she's pushed too far and collapses.

Warlock won't want to kill, or permanently harm Jean. (Nor will Jean want to damage Warlock.) But Warlock will know Jean's limitations and puch her past them. He could even do something like use Avalon's transporter to send her into space. No doubt she'd keep a shield up to protect herself. But Jean would either tire or run out of air. And when that happens, Warlock can transport her back to safety and, if he's worried about her waking up, infect her while she's down.

Jean's not a character to be taken lightly. But with his access to information and ability to infect the entire station, Warlock can take this match.


Warlock wins

 

[wiegeabo]

Nimrod vs. Emma Frost:

Nimrod is finally screwed, due to prep-time and Emma's full access to Xavier's database and information provided. First, let's catch the voter up with the last history of Nimrod. (Remember, the events in Child's Play are not to be used; so, that is not the most recent Nimrod in use. You will see the one that will be grabbed.)



So, Emma would know the last version that existed was the one in X-Force #35. Since this version is now destroyed, Emma would have Cable's files on this battle and know how to repeat it's destruction. (Emma is very smart, and will be able to perform this same feat.) After all, the key to defeating many enemies is knowledge of what's worked in the past. This version of Nimrod will not been destroyed by Cable yet; so, it's up to Emma to do the exact same thing. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Winner = Emma Frost

Just because such a strategy worked once does not mean it will work again. This is a different situation, and there's no guarantee Frost will be able to convince Nimrod to do the same. In fact, does Emma have the power to last long enough against Nimrod to do this. Will she even get the chance?

Emma and Nimrod can be on entirely different sides of Avalon. Nimrod interfaces with the station and uses it against Emma. While she's busy with those defenses, Nimrod teleports in and quickly finishes her off.

Nimrod wouldn't probably wouldn't even need to do all of this. With his files on Emma, he could just teleport in, do a quick scan to find her weakness and finish her off. Emma won't even get the chance to stop Nimrod.


Nimrod wins.

 

[kytrigger]

No I mean weaker then quite a few, the Silver Surfer being on top of that list.

Except he really isn't. The only times he has been shown as weak (ie been beaten) were by Thor and Morg when he was uber powerful and destroyed everyone.

es I amswered that one but he remains an Asgardian warrior who wears incredible armour.

Which is quite different. And his armor isn't that good. He's been hurt before by people much weaker than Air-Walker and his armor didn't completely help him there either.

Let me put this another way, a God with thousands of years of experience as a warrrior against a robot with less then a century.

Except that he hasn't been fighting those 1000s of years. The vast majority of it has been drinking. Both are very experienced.

Nobody has measured how hot nor how intense Balder's rays can get. They could be supernova hot, core of the sun hot. The rays can be so intense as to blind anyone. He is the God of light and this his domain. We have not seen the limit of his powers.

So what, he has still NEVER shown this degree of power. He is a "god" that just means people used to worship him, nothing more. He has never shown power anywhere near the power of the sun and you're saying that just because it hasn't been said he can't, that he can. I might as well say that Air-walker has never been shown to NOT be able to crap a cosmic atom bomb, so he must be able to. The fact still remains that Baldur has never shown anywhere near the power of the sun or of Johnny Strom even (which Air-walker beat twice with the other F4)

balder does have a good chance in this battle given noone knows how extreme his non-physical powers are. thor has mastery of the weather and everyone knows how powerful his mastery of it is. balder's mastery of light and heat will be comperable and therefore Airwalker cuold find himself melting against the might of the great Balder.

On a cosmic scale, Thor's ,astery of weather is a joke. Taht's why he rarely uses it in a big battle. Because he knows that throwing a lightning bolt and some hail isn't going to do anythign to the more powerful characters like Air-walker.

And not only that, but (withthe exception of Odin) every single other Asgardian completely pales in camparison to Thor on almost every single level. If Asgard were the movie Twins, Thor would be Arnold Schwarzenegger, Baldur would be Danny Devito.

Baldur's blasts have never shown the kind of power it takes to step up and face the power cosmic of Air-walker, and blinding light won't work against a robot.

Baldur is ust out of his league.

Winner- Air-Walker

 

[Phaedrus45]

Just because such a strategy worked once does not mean it will work again. This is a different situation, and there's no guarantee Frost will be able to convince Nimrod to do the same. In fact, does Emma have the power to last long enough against Nimrod to do this. Will she even get the chance?

Emma and Nimrod can be on entirely different sides of Avalon. Nimrod interfaces with the station and uses it against Emma. While she's busy with those defenses, Nimrod teleports in and quickly finishes her off.

Nimrod wouldn't probably wouldn't even need to do all of this. With his files on Emma, he could just teleport in, do a quick scan to find her weakness and finish her off. Emma won't even get the chance to stop Nimrod.


Nimrod wins.

First, it should work again, as this Nimrod would not have had that experience yet. Second, as this is Cable's old place, Emma will have more information on it in prep-time than Nimrod, and she could very well have two things available. 1) She could have something ready to infect the files that Nimrod will be accessing, thus infecting Nimrod. 2) She can have something to shut down access to the files. After all, one of Emma's specialties is electronics. This match and location fits her perfectly.

Now, if you've read all of Nimrod's appearances, I cannot remember a time when one of the X-Men is taken out instantly. There is always a big battle, with Nimrod learning about the situation at hand. Plus, he always seems to announce that he's preparing for extermination.

Nimrod is tough, and he can always get through a lot of these rounds. But, as pointed out:

*Emma has all of the X-Men files.

*Emma will know the location very well.

*Emma will have notes on all of the Nimrod fights and what worked and what didn't.

*Emma's specialty is electronics. This benefits her even more facing Nimrod and being aboard the Avalon.

*This nimrod would be the same one that Cable faced; thus, the way that he was defeated should be able to be repeated or even improved on. More than likely, she can repeat it.

*Nimrod isn't a quick acter. He announces he's going to terminate, no X-Man has ever been eliminated with a quick first hit. There is enough time for Emma to do what she needs to do.


Winner = Emma Frost

 

[kytrigger]

He can actually radiate any degree of heat and/or light. It is not just some simple concussive blasts.

okay. He has still never shown that he can radiate a high enough degree to actualyl harm Air-walker.

The key word is was and as an ex-herald he does not hold the same amount of power cosmic as he did when he was one. Thor defeated Air-Walker using brute force and actually destroyed his healing abilities.

No he didn't destroy his healing abilities. he healed, just very slowly because the only part of him left was about the size of a pinky. he still healed from that though it took some time. Even Wolverine couldn't heal from that.

And yes, he is an ex-herald, but he is still incredibly powerful. He still controls power cosmic, somethign far more powerful and diverse than heat and light.

Also to note, that the first time, when he lost a battle to the Silver Surfer it took him 3 months to repair himself.

Yes, and that was also when he was completely detroyed and only a small part of him remained. I will admit that if Baldur somehow magically disintegrates all but an inch of Air-walker that he will win. Unfortunatel yBaldur has no way of doing this. From normal injuries, Air-walker still heals incredibly fast though.

In mythology, this was not the case and he was just as impervious in Midgard (Earth). Marvel don't know what they are talking about .

Very true. and lucky for me Marvel screwed up.

Seriously, he does retain a measure of invulnerabality which his Asgardian physiology provides and the full body armor he wears which is made out of An Asgardian substance that can literally absorb just about anything.

Where is the info on his armor. I ahve never heard that at all in Marvel. The only reason he ever absorbed or redirected any attacks on him was because of the magical enchantment which is void here. Proof of the armor info please?

As for his physiology, while better than a humans, it isn't that great on a cosmic scale. There are beign much tougher and more durable than the Asgardians out there, and Air-walker has dealt with them.

This is where I do not agree. Bladur can project any level of heat or light meaning he can project heat as hot as a super nova or light so intense as to blind air walker.

Blinding a robot is pretty hard to do. Not only that, but show me where thsi (supernova heat" Baldur can project has ever been shown. In fact, the bio given states that he only manipulates light, not heat. Now, while the bio may be wrong and omits heat, I would think that if he has ever shown this huge degree of heat you have been claiming, that it would definately mention it. Of course this is all mute considering the fact that Aor-walker can fly next to suns and by absolutely fine.

He often doesn't use the extent of his powers as he does not need to in the realm of Asgard but as the God of Light he has those powers.

Not often? name one time he has shown to have teh supernova powers. Maybe it isn't just holding back, but that he doesn't really have that much power.

Air Walker's command of the power cosmic is not too great given the amount of defeats he has.

The amount of defeats? He has lost to: Thor, Surfer, and uber-powerful Morg. Those are pretty high tiered defeats against major powerhouses that far outwiegh Baldur.

I completely disagree with this given everytime i have seen him, either his self repairing is malfunctioning or takes quite a while to kick in. And when I say quite a while, I am talking about a few hours to a months. Yes very minor damage goes quickly but not the type of damage Balder can do with his swords.

Every single time his healign ability has taken hours to months was because he was compeltely destroyed. There was about as much as a pinky left of him. Yes he has been destroyed by those powerhouses listed above. Any time when he has a normal wound like one comign form a sword, he heals almost immediately. And Baldur won't even be able to hit Air-walker who is much faster than him.

I think this match is allot more even then some people would think. Balder is a military genius with centuries of experience. He has fought trolls, dark elves, ice giants, demons and it is not a wannabe robot ex-herald that will put away the God of Light, Balder.

Wannabe robot? he isn't a wannabe robot, he is a robot. Congrats for Baldur on beating an elf. Like you said, Baldur has centuries of experience in a place where he can't be harmed. There was a reason that spell was put in place, it was because it was fortold that the death of Baldur would trigger Ragnarok and nobody thought he was a good enough warrior to survive on his own. The spell has made him careless and lazy. He is now in a place where his isn't invincible facing off against someone who is a hell of a lot stronger, faster, and overall more powerful than him. Baldur is not Thor. He is in fact nowhere near Thor's level. Even as an ex-herald, air-walker and his power cosmic far overpower Baldur and his light.


Winner- Air-walker

 

[wiegeabo]

First, it should work again, as this Nimrod would not have had that experience yet. Second, as this is Cable's old place, Emma will have more information on it in prep-time than Nimrod, and she could very well have two things available. 1) She could have something ready to infect the files that Nimrod will be accessing, thus infecting Nimrod. 2) She can have something to shut down access to the files. After all, one of Emma's specialties is electronics. This match and location fits her perfectly.

Now, if you've read all of Nimrod's appearances, I cannot remember a time when one of the X-Men is taken out instantly. There is always a big battle, with Nimrod learning about the situation at hand. Plus, he always seems to announce that he's preparing for extermination.

Nimrod is tough, and he can always get through a lot of these rounds. But, as pointed out:

*Emma has all of the X-Men files.

*Emma will know the location very well.

*Emma will have notes on all of the Nimrod fights and what worked and what didn't.

*Emma's specialty is electronics. This benefits her even more facing Nimrod and being aboard the Avalon.

*This nimrod would be the same one that Cable faced; thus, the way that he was defeated should be able to be repeated or even improved on. More than likely, she can repeat it.

*Nimrod isn't a quick acter. He announces he's going to terminate, no X-Man has ever been eliminated with a quick first hit. There is enough time for Emma to do what she needs to do.

Cable only had the time to convince Nimrod to give up because X-Force kept Nimrod busy. Emma doesn't have that luxury. She's all by herself against a mutant killer.

All Nimrod has to do once he's on the station is scan for Frost's lifesign, teleport into the same room, (make his announcement if you think it's necessary) and take her down. I mean, how long does a fight have to last when Nimrod is only facing one opponent. And it's an opponent who has a weakness (that Nimrod will find in his scans) that allows her to be shattered with a single shot.

Emma might have tons of information, but she's not going to get the chance to use it. With no other distractions, Nimrod can quickly counter anything Emma may use against him, or avoid it completely with some quick teleporting. Emma is just overpowered this time.


Nimrod wins

 

[Ahura Mazda]

okay. He has still never shown that he can radiate a high enough degree to actualyl harm Air-walker.

In the Marvel bio it states unmeasured degrees of light and heat. Unmeasured is that his limits have yet to be reached.

No he didn't destroy his healing abilities. he healed, just very slowly because the only part of him left was about the size of a pinky. he still healed from that though it took some time. Even Wolverine couldn't heal from that.

Balder is very well equipped and who knows what damage his swords can do.

And yes, he is an ex-herald, but he is still incredibly powerful. He still controls power cosmic, somethign far more powerful and diverse than heat and light.

His mastery of it was never very good.

Yes, and that was also when he was completely detroyed and only a small part of him remained. I will admit that if Baldur somehow magically disintegrates all but an inch of Air-walker that he will win. Unfortunatel yBaldur has no way of doing this. From normal injuries, Air-walker still heals incredibly fast though.

The more injuries and the longer it takes him to heal. Balder will be causing numerous injuries.

Very true. and lucky for me Marvel screwed up. Where is the info on his armor. I ahve never heard that at all in Marvel. The only reason he ever absorbed or redirected any attacks on him was because of the magical enchantment which is void here. Proof of the armor info please?

Balder is always wearing armour or are you ignoring that small detail. He never goes into battle without it. Just look at his picture.

As for his physiology, while better than a humans, it isn't that great on a cosmic scale. There are beign much tougher and more durable than the Asgardians out there, and Air-walker has dealt with them.

Baldur is at least as durable as Thor who destroyed Air Walker in his day. And Asgardian are on average very durable indeed.

Blinding a robot is pretty hard to do. Not only that, but show me where thsi (supernova heat" Baldur can project has ever been shown. In fact, the bio given states that he only manipulates light, not heat. Now, while the bio may be wrong and omits heat, I would think that if he has ever shown this huge degree of heat you have been claiming, that it would definately mention it. Of course this is all mute considering the fact that Aor-walker can fly next to suns and by absolutely fine. Not often? name one time he has shown to have teh supernova powers. Maybe it isn't just holding back, but that he doesn't really have that much power. The amount of defeats? He has lost to: Thor, Surfer, and uber-powerful Morg. Those are pretty high tiered defeats against major powerhouses that far outwiegh Baldur.

Thor defeated him and Baldur is an Asgardian warrior like Thor. maybe not as strong, lacking Mjollnir and weather powers but he has his sword, his heat and light powers and incredible battle prowess plus he was the handsomest of all the Gods (at least in Mythology he was).

Every single time his healign ability has taken hours to months was because he was compeltely destroyed. There was about as much as a pinky left of him. Yes he has been destroyed by those powerhouses listed above. Any time when he has a normal wound like one comign form a sword, he heals almost immediately. And Baldur won't even be able to hit Air-walker who is much faster than him.

His healing powers have a limit and do take time to work based on the injury. Baldur will make it too difficult for Air Walker to heal effectively until Air Walker will find himself on the doors of defeat.

Wannabe robot? he isn't a wannabe robot, he is a robot. Congrats for Baldur on beating an elf. Like you said, Baldur has centuries of experience in a place where he can't be harmed. There was a reason that spell was put in place, it was because it was fortold that the death of Baldur would trigger Ragnarok and nobody thought he was a good enough warrior to survive on his own. The spell has made him careless and lazy. He is now in a place where his isn't invincible facing off against someone who is a hell of a lot stronger, faster, and overall more powerful than him. Baldur is not Thor. He is in fact nowhere near Thor's level. Even as an ex-herald, air-walker and his power cosmic far overpower Baldur and his light.

You know if Baldur is close to death because Air-Walker starts to put him there, all the gates of Asgard would open up to save the golden being.

Seriously though, Balder never stopped training and has done battle on Earth as well in the past. He knows when his enchantment will protect him an when it will not. he is not careless by any means and is a true warrior who relishes battle when there is no other alternative.


Winner- Balder

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!!!

 

[Phaedrus45]

Holy crap, I just pulled an Ahura!!!! Oh well. What I thought was my easiest match this week totally got brainfarted by me. Sorry about the lack of debate, Wieg, I totally spaced this one out.

 

[Phaedrus45]

*Emma Frost

*Jean Grey

*New Sun

*Airwalker

 

[kytrigger]

New Sun- even though Fandral's almost too dashing...almost

Warlock-debate

Nimrod- a much tougher battle than I thought possible, but I think Nimrod can still pull it off.

Air-Walker

 

[Harlekin]

Nimrod - Great strategy by Phaed, but Emma doesn't have the endurance to implement it.
Warlock - Even without a debate, the immense advantage Avalon provides Warlock is uncanny.
Fandral the Dashing!
Air-Walker - Good try, but Air-Walker has more versatility and power.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Nimrod
Warlock
New Sun
Air-Walker - even if my character is Balder I did not see him winning as much as I did my best to make it difficult for Ky

 

[wiegeabo]

Nimrod
Warlock
New Sun
Air-Walker

 

[JewishHobbit]

Air-Walker
New Sun
Nimrod
Warlock

 

[Trigger]

New Sun
Nimrod
Jean Grey
Air-Walker

 

[hippy fascist]

Nimrod (Really bad draw for emma)
Air-Walker
New Sun(pwned)
Warlock (I share your grey family pain dude )