Days of Future Past 'Days Of Future Past' BOX-OFFICE worldwide prediction - Part 3

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I've seen this film 9 times now. I'm not sure if I have the energy to pull off seeing it a 10th time in theaters again...but I will do what I must. :argh:

I envy you because as a guy with a family & kids, it was hard enough for me to squeeze out a time to see DOFP once in the theatre, and that was because my wife decided to take care of the kids so I can see this movie. Not gonna be able to see DOFP again until the DVD comes out.
 
Apocalypse can easily do 800 million. This franchise has the pull and the brand power to do that. I just think we underestimated how crippling TLS and Origins was to this franchise. They couldn't just click the reset button and Batman Begin this franchise. It was never going to work that way.

Look at what we saw with SM3. Domestic returns started to plummet after an atrocious film and the reboot certainly did not help matters. None the less, SM3 sustained global success. Hollywood pretty much knows the rest of the world will eat up any huge American "brand" movie after At World's End and SM3. Look at the Hobbit and Transformers movies for Pete's sake; it's an afterthought at this point. They have those major foreign markets on a leash like dogs. Just slap a notable brand and whala, you have a guaranteed steam roller overseas.

The American audience however has a ravenous appetite and desires something above and beyond same old. So when TF4 thuds at the domestic box office but pulls in solid numbers overseas, no one should be surprised.

But I think the franchise is back now. And Apocalypse should be pure profit for Fox as long as the budget doesn't get way out of hand. But the payoff will only be after another near perfectly executed X-film. Otherwise, the franchise is merely going to pay for itself and not provide the type of money that Fox needs to really to contend with their major competitors in the film industry. They need the massive payoff in Apocalypse, otherwise, I don't see any long term viability for X-Men as a film franchise.
 
I envy you because as a guy with a family & kids, it was hard enough for me to squeeze out a time to see DOFP once in the theatre, and that was because my wife decided to take care of the kids so I can see this movie. Not gonna be able to see DOFP again until the DVD comes out.

I saw it for the fourth time because the bomb squad evacuated my apartment building...
 
Check this out, the first summer movie to hit $200 million domestic will be X-Men (from Boxofficemojo.com):

Box Office Mojo‏@boxofficemojo 41m
First Summer release to hit $200 million domestic will be 'X-Men: Days of Future Past' (sometime next weekend)

TASM2 isn't a summer movie 2014?
 
It hasn't hit $200m yet.
 
Gave this movie $10.50 today. It should reach $200 by Thursday-Friday. Meanwhile TASM2 won't make it there until the weekend after next.
 
TASM2 isn't a summer movie 2014?

ASM2 has made a total of $196,350,239 as of sunday.

I love the fact that DOFP has nearly caught up with that number in half the time as ASM2 with double the competition.
 
Great film, great success. All this talk about failure is off the wall. First of all Dofp is an international success. Second, the lower domestic number is near 200 million? Since when is 200 million not a success? Third, the critics and fans love it, see RT.com. Four, this film had emotion and a screeplay that was nearly better than the source. Five, it connected the other films even though its an alternate timeline. Much like Star Trek did as you still can watch the originals and know they still exist in the verse. 700 million............ not 1 billion? Had Xmen built the series from scratch like Avengers did this may have reached that billion mark. All Xmen had was Wolverine, imagine if the Avenger series started with just the Hulk and then right into an Avenger movie. Marvel built the Avengers correctly building the series through Thor Iron Man CA and Hulk.

this is why I like the Solo idea Gambit movie b4 Apocalypse. Even a solo Cyclops film would be cool also b4 Apocalypse.

I do think Fox could have planned this a little better. The word for DOFP only really started in 2012 and the post-credits scene for The Wolverine was like a last minute addition to the film. Then you watch X3/First Class/The Wolverine before DOFp, it feels like so many things happened inbetween the films.

I feel like if they really planned this very well from the start and we got a bigger lead-in film for DOFP, DOFP could have been bigger than $700 million, not that I'm complaining.
 
This is simply not true. You're talking about a significantly wide gap though as IM3 produced $409 million domestically.

Consider this:
  • 59 films have scored more than $200mil, but less than $250 million at the domestic office.
  • 34 films with $250mil, but under $300mil.
  • 47 films have been over $300mil.

$200mil is relatively average now for these big summer spectacles, especially one with the kind've budget DOFP had. Again, just speaking domestically. If AOA hits $300 million here in the states, then I know I can unequivocally say this franchise has become a worldwide success. For now the interest is higher abroad, seems that way for whatever big blockbuster we'll send them right now.

Godzilla says hi.

DOFP is doing as well as stronger brands like the MCU and Spider-Man overseas so I see that as a win.
 
ASM2 has made a total of $196,350,239 as of sunday.

I love the fact that DOFP has nearly caught up with that number in half the time as ASM2 with double the competition.

:wow: DoFP nearly catching up with TASM2 !!!??? how much has it made as of sunday???
DoFP is doing really good then.
 
$189.5 million. I expect by Friday or Thursday for DOFP to outgross TASM2's domestic numbers.

21st Century Fox Will Benefit From The Success Of X-Men And Rio 2 In June Quarter; Sequels To Drive Business

21st Century Fox has come up with handful of hit titles in 2014, including X-Men: Days of Future Past, Rio 2 and Mr. Peabody & Sherman. These movies have performed well and so far this year and the studio has managed to gross over $1.6 billion at the global box office. In the U.S. alone, the studio has grossed over $600 million, commanding a market share of 14.2%. While it will be interesting to see how the studio performs for the rest of the year, the company will see benefits of X-Men: Days of Future Past and Rio 2 in the June quarter. It must be noted that Rio 2 was made with a production budget of $103 million and has so far grossed more than $460 million at the global box office. Similarly, the production budget for X-Men: Days of Future Past was $200 million, and the movie has already grossed $609 million at the global box office in less than a month. We believe that the studio will continue to do well in the near term, as well as in the long run, driven by the increased production and sequels of some of the popular titles, including Avatar and X-Men. EBITDA margins at the company’s studio business had been close to 20%. However, they declined in 2013 to 13%, reflecting higher costs associated with some of its titles. Success of individual movies is unpredictable. The revenues and profits can vary within a very wide range depending upon the degree of success. Keeping this risk in mind, we forecast only limited growth in margins.

How Is 21st Century Fox's Movie Business Trending?
21st Century Fox’s studio produces and distributes movies worldwide. These movies are distributed worldwide to theaters, licensed to TV networks and sold to customers in form of DVDs and electronic versions. Additionally, the movies are licensed to 21st Century Fox’s broadcasting and cable networks as well as networks owned by other media companies. Overall, the studio business contributes more than 15% to 21st Century Fox’s value, according to our estimates.

Continued Growth At The Box Office
The studio derives revenues from three sources: the box office, DVD and electronic sales, and content licensing. Its box office revenues have grown at an average annual rate of 12% over the last five years, amounting to $1.89 billion in 2013. During this period, the studio released many successful titles such as Avatar, X-Men series and Ice Age series. We expect the strong performance to continue and estimate that 21stCentury Fox’s annual box office revenues will reach close to $2.5 billion by the end of our forecast period in 2020. This growth will be driven by some of the popular titles including sequels to Avatar, X-Men, and Independence Day. While it is difficult to forecast a movie’s performance at the box office, the trend suggests that popular sequels turn out to be profitable for the media companies. For 21st Century Fox, Avatar was a blockbuster hit with global box-office collection of over $2.7 billion, making it the highest grossing movie of all time. The sequel of Avatar (rumored in 2016) is much awaited and it is safe to assume it will generate big bucks for the studio.

Movie, TV DVDs And Electronic Sales To Decline But Licensing Will Continue To Grow Strongly
21st Century Fox’s DVD and electronic sales grew at an average annual rate of a little under 3% over the past five years. Revenues have gone up from from $2.47 billion in 2009 to $2.82 billion in 2013. However, we expect the figure to decline slightly in the coming years. The availability of content online and the rise of alternative video platforms such as Netflix have led to a decline in DVD sales. It is unlikely that the company will be able to offset this loss with electronic sales.

On the other hand, content licensing business has been growing strongly for the company. Content licensing refers to revenues earned by 21st Century Fox through licensing of its movie and TV content to cable and broadcasting networks in the U.S. and international markets. This business has grown at an average annual rate of close to 13.5% over the last five years, amounting to $4.27 billion in 2013. We expect this uptrend to continue in the coming years and estimate revenues to be northward of $6 billion by the end of our forecast period. The growth in licensing will be driven by increased production of shows and movies, and expansion in international markets. However, the company will need to focus on bringing unique and original content, which has been one of the major drivers behind its rival CBS’ success in recent years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp...-2-in-june-quarter-sequels-to-drive-business/
 
This is simply not true. You're talking about a significantly wide gap though as IM3 produced $409 million domestically.

Consider this:
  • 59 films have scored more than $200mil, but less than $250 million at the domestic office.
  • 34 films with $250mil, but under $300mil.
  • 47 films have been over $300mil.

$200mil is relatively average now for these big summer spectacles, especially one with the kind've budget DOFP had. Again, just speaking domestically. If AOA hits $300 million here in the states, then I know I can unequivocally say this franchise has become a worldwide success. For now the interest is higher abroad, seems that way for whatever big blockbuster we'll send them right now.

Average for big summer spectacles is a weird way to say it. So you're admitting it's big?

Only 1 movie this whole year of almost 5.5 months has made 200 million domestic and it's cap 2, and it's the biggest domiestic hall for fox in a half decade. Maybe you should reevaluate how good 200 million domestic is.

Sure it's not special but it's certainly good
 
The inflation debate is kinda dumb, if you're gonna compare TLS adjusted gross to DOFP then compare the adjusted budget too.

Yep. Everyone forgets to adjust the budget as well as the box office!

Let's do an example. X-Men: The Last Stand.

Adjusted global total = $558m (according to Box Office Mojo ticket price inflation adjuster)

Adjusted domestic total = $285m (using Box Office Mojo ticket price inflation adjuster)

Adjusted budget = $242m (according to this Inflation Adjuster)
 
Godzilla says hi.

DOFP is doing as well as stronger brands like the MCU and Spider-Man overseas so I see that as a win.

Godzilla hasn't opened in China (6/13)/Japan(7/25)/Russia. I'm not a fan of the film, but it'll push over a minimum of $500mil internationally.

Average for big summer spectacles is a weird way to say it. So you're admitting it's big?

Only 1 movie this whole year of almost 5.5 months has made 200 million domestic and it's cap 2, and it's the biggest domiestic hall for fox in a half decade. Maybe you should reevaluate how good 200 million domestic is.

Sure it's not special but it's certainly good

------> DOMESTICALLY it's average for a big budget blockbuster. The break down of $200mil, $250mil, and $300+ mil earners shows that.
 
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Average for big summer spectacles is a weird way to say it. So you're admitting it's big?

Only 1 movie this whole year of almost 5.5 months has made 200 million domestic and it's cap 2, and it's the biggest domiestic hall for fox in a half decade. Maybe you should reevaluate how good 200 million domestic is.

Sure it's not special but it's certainly good
The Lego Movie made over 255.85mil domestically.
 
1st i ll take a minute and welcome the X-MEN franchise back to the Big League!
WELCOME X-MEN !

Now...X-DOFP has Great numbers both Domestically and Overseas.

220mil expected by BoxOfficeMojo Is a great number
How many movies get 220 mil domestically ? yeah not that many.

510 mil Overseas is HUGE ! how many get that ? not that many.

WW of 715-735mil is HUGE. how many get that ? not that many either.

Critically and financially is a BIG success. period.

judging a 200mil gross by a budget is wrong. 200mil is 200mil.

yeas domestically it was "meh" (if we can say this for 220mil at all) but thats because it had a SUPERB CAST and AMAZING reviews/word of mouth and was expected to do 250-300mil.

American audiences are to blame here. a superb movie (some didnt like it but that doesnt change facts its superb) with a great cast including mega-star Jennifer Lawrence and it failed to do 250 mil.

im boubting AOA will do 300mil domestically. it should if its any good but it wont even if it holds up to DOFP. if this movie didnt do 250 AOA has little chance.
but still im guessing a decent AOA movie will make 550-650 mil OS and 225-250 mil domestically and around 775-850 mil WW.
 
1st i ll take a minute and welcome the X-MEN franchise back to the Big League!
WELCOME X-MEN !

Now...X-DOFP has Great numbers both Domestically and Overseas.

220mil expected by BoxOfficeMojo Is a great number
How many movies get 220 mil domestically ? yeah not that many.
108

86 since 2000. Which averages about almost 6 a year.

510 mil Overseas is HUGE ! how many get that ? not that many.
42

37 since 2000. A little over 2 a year.


WW of 715-735mil is HUGE. how many get that ? not that many either.
59

52 since 2000. A little over 3 a year.
 
DOFP Is up to 191 Million Domesticly.It has virtully tied the adjusted gross of Origins.

It is gaining on AMS2 which has 196 Million.

As for those who dismiss DOFP numbers when was last time an X-Men film has numbers like this?
 
Looks like we'll be the first $200+ film of the summer after this weekend. Hopefully earlier...

EDIT: Also, today DoFP continues the trend of having stronger weekdays than X3.
 
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So about how much does DOFP need to break even? Assuming the budget is between the range of 200 - 250?
 
So about how much does DOFP need to break even? Assuming the budget is between the range of 200 - 250?

Fox says the budget was 200 million.With a 611 Million worldwide gross it broke even with 4oo million.If rumored 225 million budget is more accurate.It broke even at 450 Million.
 
So about how much does DOFP need to break even? Assuming the budget is between the range of 200 - 250?

To be completely accurate there is a rule that movies generally spend half of their budget on marketing, so $300 million between marketing and budget. So it should break even legitimately at about 600 million but Forbes thinks it breaks even at 550 million and they would probably be right
 
Made 1.765 million on Monday

Better than amazing spiderman did on the same Monday at 1.5 but way below the near 2.6 million captain America 2 made

If it follows the path of ASM2 this week it would get about 3.4 million more Tuesday through Thursday and almost 8 million this weekend for a domestic total of over 200 million after this weekend

And from this point of amazing spiderman that movie so far has had 23 million more in the tank after it's first Monday after weekend 3.

If days finishes at exactly that it would be 214 million app, pretty much in line with X2
 
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