Doctor Strange Casting Poll **NEW** - Part 1

[TheUnknownX]

Javier Bardem

 

[Gamma Goliath]

He was once on my favorites list along with Jeffrey dean Morgan. I'd still take him but most see him as a villain.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

2 Strange Pics and Avengers 3 by 2018?

I don't think he means exclusively in that order. More likey a Dr. Strange movie, A3, then at least a Dr. Strange sequel.

 

[Batmannerism]

hmmm....... tough call. I'm going with Cumberbatch.

You need someone who can come across as very cerebral and
a bit aloof to play Stephen Strange.

Mind you, I've been pleasantly surprised by castings in the past
so who knows.

Mark Strong or Jason Isaacs would probably be more suited to the
villain roles (Baron Mordo ? )

A lot of potential in a Dr. Strange movie, will look forward to it.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

2 Strange Pics and Avengers 3 by 2018?

I wouldn't think so. I'd assume the second Strange comes after Avengers 3 in Phase 4, unless A3 gets a 2019 release date, then we may get 2 Strange films before. Who really knows, if he is indeed being groomed as the next IM, then he could very well follow suit and repeat that characters 3 film appearances in a single Phase (1) Ultimately I'm just speculating on what the minimum number of films that Marvel and Phoenix would accept in order to reach an agreement. I figured a solo film plus the requisite sequel & team-up appearance would be the minimum. Based on reports it appears an Evans-type commitment is out of the question at this point in time.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

I don't think he means exclusively in that order. More likey a Dr. Strange movie, A3, then at least a Dr. Strange sequel.

Yes, exactly

 

[Gamma Goliath]

@batmannerism

While everyone you chose would technically work in those respective roles because they're all fine actors who typically play those roles, they all seem a bit like cookie cutter choices imo. I'd be disappointed if they were the cast.

 

[Batmannerism]

@batmannerism

While everyone you chose would technically work in those respective roles because they're all fine actors who typically play those roles, they all seem a bit like cookie cutter choices imo. I'd be disappointed if they were the cast.

Fair call. So who would you pick, who would be a slighlty unorthodox choice, but then would dazzle in the role ?

I just can visualize Cumberbatch in the role easiest -maybe that's a cookie
cutter choice, but casting is so important ( eg. Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern was a terrible choice, but Reynolds as Deadpool was hilarious).

IMO for villains, you kind of need someone who has a reputation for playing bad guys (like Strong or Isaacs, or Rickman), villains I think need
to be cookie cutter choices really.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Fair call. So who would you pick, who would be a slighlty unorthodox choice, but then would dazzle in the role ?

I just can visualize Cumberbatch in the role easiest -maybe that's a cookie
cutter choice, but casting is so important ( eg. Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern was a terrible choice, but Reynolds as Deadpool was hilarious).

IMO for villains, you kind of need someone who has a reputation for playing bad guys (like Strong or Isaacs, or Rickman), villains I think need
to be cookie cutter choices really.

My personal list for strange would be:

If they go younger:

Jake gyllanhaal
Luke Evans
Jack huston
Edgar Ramirez

If they go more mature:

Chiwetel Ejiofor
Jeffery Dean Morgan
Javier Bardem
Joaquin Phoenix

And my Baron Mordo list:

Javier Bardem
Edgar Ramirez
Joaquin Phoenix

Two of my favorite pairings would be Chiwetel's Strange against Joaquin's Mordo.

 

[Batmannerism]

My personal list for strange would be:

If they go younger:

Jake gyllanhaal
Luke Evans
Jack huston
Edgar Ramirez

If they go more mature:

Chiwetel Ejiofor
Jeffery Dean Morgan
Javier Bardem
Joaquin Phoenix

And my Baron Mordo list:

Javier Bardem
Edgar Ramirez
Joaquin Phoenix

Two of my favorite pairings would be Chiwetel's Strange against Joaquin's Mordo.

Yeah I coud see Bardem as Mordo, maybe not Phoenix

To be honest, and this is just my opinion I don't think
Edgar Ramirez or Luke Evans has the acting chops to make Strange interesting.
I find Gyllenhall a bit too boyish for the role

Chiwetel Ejiofor ? Well he's got the acting chops alright, never really thought of a black Dr. Strange, but why not.
On a related note, I've always thought it was time for a black Dr. Who, and Chiwetel E. would be my number one pick.

I guess I'm a bit stuck on Stephen Strange's look from the comics. Not really sure who could pull it off.

Jeffrey Dean Morgan.....great as Comedian, but that's because he plays
rough around the edges characters really well. Dr. Strange isn't rough around the edges at all.

How about Colin Firth ? Because he's got the chops, the look and could probably pull off strange's character arc, from arrogant doctor to world protector.

What about Nic Cage ? MMM maybe too crazy for the role.


It's a very tough casting call. I'm not disrespecting your opinions, I just disagree. But who knows, I might be pleasantly surprised !

In the meantime, I'm still on team Cumberbatch.

Actually, I'm not really a fan of his (although we were born on exactly the same day) Jon Hamm has the look and could pull off a neurosurgeon who's a bit of a *****ebag. The hard part would be believing him as a hero.

But who knows ? What about Joshua Jackson ? Maybe a bit young.

Man, this is a tough casting choice ! Zachary Quinto ? hmmmm, maybe too strongly identified with Spock.

Well, from the Poll my top picks would be Viggo Mortensen, Lee Pace and maybe Adrien Brody.

Any other ideas anyone ? Cheers.

 

[Moridin]

If they were to go with an eccentric Doc Strange I still feel Johnny Depp would best be suited to saying crap like BY THE HOARY HOAST OF HOGGOTH and have us believe in it, but Phoenix has a creepy intensity about him that would make is Strange very intriguing.

Johnny Depp playing "eccentric dude in a funny costume" is old hat at this point. AKA, boring & predictable.

IMO for villains, you kind of need someone who has a reputation for playing bad guys (like Strong or Isaacs, or Rickman), villains I think need to be cookie cutter choices really.

I don't agree at all. Ledger blows that theory out of the water. Sebastian Stan was fantastic as WS, also. Just 2 examples.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I must be the only one who doesn't feel the need to cram Strange into an Avengers pic.

I don't feel the need either, I just know that Marvel probably does.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I'm still surprised by Phoenix possibly doing this. He's expressed interest in doing a comic book film, but he strikes me more as a one and done type deal. This is different which is why I will be surprised if he still becomes attached to this. He doesn't strike me as a lead to carry an entire possible franchise and crossover films.

But if he does it, then I'm gonna be excited regardless. Phoenix is still an odd choice for Marvel. But they don't want another Norton situation, so Phoenix can't balk at this type of contract when he signs.

 

[Batmannerism]

Johnny Depp playing "eccentric dude in a funny costume" is old hat at this point. AKA, boring & predictable.



I don't agree at all. Ledger blows that theory out of the water. Sebastian Stan was fantastic as WS, also. Just 2 examples.

I'll agree with you that Ledger is an exception, as his performance as the Joker was probably one of the best comic book villians of all time, ever.


IMO Sebastian Stan didn't really do a lot of acting, just a lot of kicking and punching (and shield catching) so not really a performance for the ages - and certainly not one you can compare with Ledgers, well you could compare, just not sure how many folks would agree with you.

The flipside is that there seem to be actors who do villains really really well (Mark Strong being one of them, I mean he was a "cookie cutter" choice for Sinestro, and turned out to be one of the only good things about the whole GL movie ).

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I see a lot of your reasonings for some actors being right or wrong for role are based on the certain chracters tbey typically play. With Cumberpatch, on paper yeah he could play Strange because he already plays something similar to Strange in Sherlock. And I think JDM would be an interesting choice because if he plays "rough around the edges" type characters, wouldn't it be great to see him play something else? And I feel like Strange is somewhat rough around the edges at first but goes through a life experience that makes him otherwise, see here:

"An arrogant surgeon who loses the ability to use his hands causing him to lose his livelihood as a surgeon. facing depression and despair, he finds himself desperate enough to travel across the globe to get unconventional healing from a man who may or may not even exist. He then becomes disciplined in mind, body and soul. As the sorcerer supreme he becomes refined and precise like a surgeon's scalpel, a sacred defender of the realm and a better man underneath it all. "


The thing about isaacs and strong are, yes they make great villains, but we always get them as villains, it gets tiring because we know what to expect. Strong made a great sinestro not because sinestro was a villain (which he wasnt) but because sinestro was interesting character and strong fit the mannerisms and physical attributes of him. I like watching those guys more when they're not playing the villain.

You can just google baron mordo and look through the images and see plenty of inspired choices for the role, most of which are people who dont often play villains but they play great characters.
For these cbms a lot of the time the villain goes through a transformation and its fun to see these transformations because we're seeing character and personality changes that make us wonder why, or what they they'll become. We began to see that with Winter Soldier.
The joker being a special case because it wasnt a transformation we saw with him it was a revelation of his character that made him good, and the actor portraying him didn't play a great villain because he was just good at it, he made a great villain because he played a great character.

And on jake gyllanhaal being too boyish. I would've said the same thing a few years ago, but truth be told I really think he's out grown the boyish thing. He's 33 and looks more mature these days aslo taking more mature roles. He was great in prisoners as detective loki.
I think he has the chops and the star power to play a younger Dr. Strange. its not a typical hero role, he's young so longevity wouldn't be an issue, and he's an A list name that people will go see imo, especially in a marvel flick.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

My pick is still Viggo, but it's a complete and utter pipe dream. Especially after the comments he made in regards to all the green screen in The Hobbit.

 

[HIA]

Viggo would have been an awesome choice some years ago, definetly.... but right now, tho it sounds sad, he seems a bit old to join a new solo franchise, in hopes to stay during 7-9 years

 

[terry78]

Basically a lot of us already have a couple guys in mind we've wanted to play Strange for a while, and other suggestions means those guys won't get the chance to do so.

 

[Loki882]

I always take a "wait and see" attitude. There have been too many cases of fans flipping out about an actor/actress "not being right" only to ultimately be proven wrong. So I've learned not to jump the gun and complain before actually SEEING anything.

 

[The_Manhunter]

Johnny Depp hasn't been in a good movie in a long, long time.

I thought Transcendence was pretty/really good.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Ugh, I hated transcendence. Worst movie of the year for me. Depp literally phoned in his performance, he spends 85% of the movie on a TV screen

 

[TheUnknownX]

He was once on my favorites list along with Jeffrey dean Morgan. I'd still take him but most see him as a villain.

Yea I posted this by mistake lol It was supposed to be for Baron Mordo

 

[Batmannerism]

I see a lot of your reasonings for some actors being right or wrong for role are based on the certain chracters tbey typically play. With Cumberpatch, on paper yeah he could play Strange because he already plays something similar to Strange in Sherlock. And I think JDM would be an interesting choice because if he plays "rough around the edges" type characters, wouldn't it be great to see him play something else? And I feel like Strange is somewhat rough around the edges at first but goes through a life experience that makes him otherwise, see here:

"An arrogant surgeon who loses the ability to use his hands causing him to lose his livelihood as a surgeon. facing depression and despair, he finds himself desperate enough to travel across the globe to get unconventional healing from a man who may or may not even exist. He then becomes disciplined in mind, body and soul. As the sorcerer supreme he becomes refined and precise like a surgeon's scalpel, a sacred defender of the realm and a better man underneath it all. "


The thing about isaacs and strong are, yes they make great villains, but we always get them as villains, it gets tiring because we know what to expect. Strong made a great sinestro not because sinestro was a villain (which he wasnt) but because sinestro was interesting character and strong fit the mannerisms and physical attributes of him. I like watching those guys more when they're not playing the villain.

You can just google baron mordo and look through the images and see plenty of inspired choices for the role, most of which are people who dont often play villains but they play great characters.
For these cbms a lot of the time the villain goes through a transformation and its fun to see these transformations because we're seeing character and personality changes that make us wonder why, or what they they'll become. We began to see that with Winter Soldier.
The joker being a special case because it wasnt a transformation we saw with him it was a revelation of his character that made him good, and the actor portraying him didn't play a great villain because he was just good at it, he made a great villain because he played a great character.

And on jake gyllanhaal being too boyish. I would've said the same thing a few years ago, but truth be told I really think he's out grown the boyish thing. He's 33 and looks more mature these days aslo taking more mature roles. He was great in prisoners as detective loki.
I think he has the chops and the star power to play a younger Dr. Strange. its not a typical hero role, he's young so longevity wouldn't be an issue, and he's an A list name that people will go see imo, especially in a marvel flick.

I agree that Gyllenhall definitely has the acting chops to play Strange - and the more I think about it, that's probably the most important thing really. To be honest, I think Gyllenhall would make a much better Captain America than Chris Evans - who plays the role with all the depth of a cardboard cut-out IMO.

I suppose the casting for Strange would also depend on what kind of interpretation they take (I mean Yondu in GOTG film was very different to comic book Yondu, but IMO much more fun and interesting). I always picture Strange as a bit snobby and effete, and the rough bits come from his descent into booze and drugs - something that James Macavoy did brilliantly when playing the self-pitying Charles Xavier in DOFP.
Maybe Richard Armitage would sort of fit my version of Strange, but it really comes down to how the writers see him.

As far as Strong as Sinestro goes, I think it's a combination of Sinestro being one of DC's best villains, but also that Strong was a natural for the role - he plays cunning, stiff-upper-lip bad guys superbly.

I know that it does get a bit tedious seeing Strong in villainous roles, I remember a couple of years back it seemed like he was the bad guy in every second film. Still, he never puts in a poor performance as a villain ( a bit like Alan Rickman). I think he perhaps realises that he is always going to get cast in particular roles, and just accepts it.

What about Keanu Reeves as Strange ? He does the brooding thing pretty well. Maybe it would be hard to believe him as a brain surgeon, but otherwise, he might be able to pull it off.

 

[gildedmuse]

This is going to sound super weird, but my absolutely perfect choice would be if you could somehow mix Viggo with David Tennant.

You want Strange to have that gravitas, someone who can play both arrogant and later a restrained, humble sort of authority, who exudes a sense of knowledge beyond everything you know, and of course a dark, sexy voice. But Viggo might be a bit too old at this point, and I think Tennant could bring a lot to the role like a sense of wickedness, confidence even after his reform, and the ability to pull off camp while bringing real depth to it. Has anyone seen him in Much Ado? He can definitely pull off big, verbose lines that are meant to sound ridiculously out of place, and yet his character will be speaking completely in earnest. Plus he's got a theater's actor face, definitely a quality I would like to see in Strange.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I agree that Gyllenhall definitely has the acting chops to play Strange - and the more I think about it, that's probably the most important thing really. To be honest, I think Gyllenhall would make a much better Captain America than Chris Evans - who plays the role with all the depth of a cardboard cut-out IMO.

I suppose the casting for Strange would also depend on what kind of interpretation they take (I mean Yondu in GOTG film was very different to comic book Yondu, but IMO much more fun and interesting). I always picture Strange as a bit snobby and effete, and the rough bits come from his descent into booze and drugs - something that James Macavoy did brilliantly when playing the self-pitying Charles Xavier in DOFP.
Maybe Richard Armitage would sort of fit my version of Strange, but it really comes down to how the writers see him.

As far as Strong as Sinestro goes, I think it's a combination of Sinestro being one of DC's best villains, but also that Strong was a natural for the role - he plays cunning, stiff-upper-lip bad guys superbly.

I know that it does get a bit tedious seeing Strong in villainous roles, I remember a couple of years back it seemed like he was the bad guy in every second film. Still, he never puts in a poor performance as a villain ( a bit like Alan Rickman). I think he perhaps realises that he is always going to get cast in particular roles, and just accepts it.

What about Keanu Reeves as Strange ? He does the brooding thing pretty well. Maybe it would be hard to believe him as a brain surgeon, but otherwise, he might be able to pull it off.

I think we just have very different taste.
I think Chris Evans is fine as Cap as the role hasn't called for a lot of depth. Cap is already a very stoic character who already isn't the type to show a lot of emotions in the first place because he's so strong willed.

And keanu, I don't think he's a very strong actor at all. He plays every role the same way as opposed to playing the same types of characters.
I'd rather have Gyllanhaal to him, with the right hair cut/hair dye job I think he'd be fine physically for strange. Because Im all for black heroes, I think Ejiofor is my favorite untraditional pick. And behind that Gyllanhaal, Phoenix, Bardem and Huston.

If marvel finds someone else besides one of them, then I support the choice because they haven't steered me wrong personally.