Don't Hate The Hater, Hate The Hate! - - - - - - Part 18

[Schlosser85]

I hate that the only woman I was attracted to at my job got fired today.

Sounds like she could use some...comforting.

 

[PyroChamber]

Sounds like she could use some...comforting.

Yeah but they fired her before I showed up today.

 

[Anubis]

So, check her out on the Facebooks....that's what it's called right? Facebooks?

 

[Teelie]

On the plus side you won't have to worry about any problems with human resources and dating a coworker anymore.

 

[Anubis]

Or s**ting where you eat....unless she's into that sorta thing.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

What's wrong with sitting where you eat? I do it all the time...

 

[Teelie]

I prefer to stand when I eat.

 

[Anubis]

As do most sane people.

What's wrong with sitting where you eat? I do it all the time...

You degenerate scum. MORAL DECAY!

 

[Doctor Evo]

Moral decay was SO 2013.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, but I'm Retro.

 

[Duke]

Plus it's non-expiring.

 

[Mace Dolex]

I hate that the only woman I was attracted to at my job got fired today.

Details man, what happened?

 

[PyroChamber]

Details man, what happened?

Called off too many times, mainly because of her kids, so they fired her.

 

[Mace Dolex]

Called off too many times, mainly because of her kids, so they fired her.

Oh you don't want a woman with kids, trust me from experience my last girlfriend had two kids and she would only go out with me if the kids would come along too.

I comfortable now as a bachelor.

 

[SpideyVille]

I hate how my mom took out a loan and gave $1000 to her church as a "sacrifice" to God, but yet she keeps putting blame on me because I quit my job and now she can't borrow money from me to eat or pay bills.

 

[Superman 1265]

I hate that my sister cannot tell the truth to save her own life. She's a pathological liar in the worst way.

 

[ComicChick]

i hate that fast food workers want minimum wage to go up to $15. not only will that not be good for the economy, it's just another reason for people to not want to better themselves.

edit: the way i worded that may get me some backlash but that's not how i intended it. i'm not sure how to say it better, or more, positive?

 

[enterthemadness]

i hate that fast food workers want minimum wage to go up to $15. not only will that not be good for the economy, it's just another reason for people to not want to better themselves.

edit: the way i worded that may get me some backlash but that's not how i intended it. i'm not sure how to say it better, or more, positive?

Min wage is too low. But I'm tired and rather do other **** than talk about this, but basically let the states and or businesses figure it out, not Fed Gov't. I don't see a problem with fast food workers at 8-9 bucks starting out. 15 is too high. Let that be for the managers/owner of the store(s).

We all know Min wage would be much higher if it kept up with inflation. It didn't and now we are in a rut as a country. I see min wage jobs as hard work depending on various things. Yeah, most people can do it, but it depends. Is it a busy day at work? Do you work a short shift where you need to go fast to get stuff done? Have people called out that day?

 

[Anita18]

i hate that fast food workers want minimum wage to go up to $15. not only will that not be good for the economy, it's just another reason for people to not want to better themselves.

edit: the way i worded that may get me some backlash but that's not how i intended it. i'm not sure how to say it better, or more, positive?

That sort of motivation has to come from within. Just money isn't going to do it. We'll still need people working cash registers and waiting tables. Although yeah, the reason why so many teens don't have summer jobs is because older folks are staying in those temp jobs.

I do think making the minimum wage twice as much as it is now (especially for fast food workers) is too much of a jump though. I was offered that hourly rate when I was out of college with a biology degree, working in a research lab at a major uni. I think that takes more skill than flipping burgers. Not like they could offer me much more, because grant money doesn't grow on trees.

 

[Teelie]

When fast food workers need two or more jobs to make it month to month (and some of them not even making that), they are not getting paid enough. Plain and simple. You should not need to have two jobs just to survive.

For a lot of them, there is no "bettering themselves." There is no hope to go to college, to get a better job, there are no other jobs they can get. What else can they do? Minimum wage is so out of whack with cost of living it might as well be indentured servitude.

$15 might be too high but when you take adjustments for inflation it's probably not too far off either.

A couple of more things to add: Most don't get full time work so doubling it to $15 an hour would be the equivalent of a full time job now. Minimum wage is so pathetic some people are literally better off being unemployed and collecting benefits than if they were to work a job.

 

[Anita18]

When fast food workers need two or more jobs to make it month to month (and some of them not even making that), they are not getting paid enough. Plain and simple. You should not need to have two jobs just to survive.

For a lot of them, there is no "bettering themselves." There is no hope to go to college, to get a better job, there are no other jobs they can get. What else can they do? Minimum wage is so out of whack with cost of living it might as well be indentured servitude.

$15 might be too high but when you take adjustments for inflation it's probably not too far off either.

If they are working in the service industry, there's usually the option of going into management where you'll get paid a lot more.

There's a whole lot of other things going on. Minimum wage positions used to be what teens would do during to get job experience and some discretionary spending. Teens who are still in high school or haven't graduated from college and haven't had the chance to better themselves. They simply are not old enough to do so. Those minimum wage jobs were meant for them. Minimum wage fast food jobs are meant to be temporary, because they were made for inexperienced teens. They require no skill or experience. I'm not saying that some older folks choose to stay in them for whatever reason, but that's what the market meant for those jobs to be.

Now more and more older adults, who have had the chance to go to school and get more job experience (even if they haven't bothered or couldn't do so), are in those minimum wage jobs long-term and shutting those teens out. Less job experience for the teens, who then have a harder time getting hired when they get out of school. It's a pretty ugly cycle, and I don't think just tweaking the minimum wage rate is going to solve it all.

 

[ComicChick]

That sort of motivation has to come from within. Just money isn't going to do it. We'll still need people working cash registers and waiting tables. Although yeah, the reason why so many teens don't have summer jobs is because older folks are staying in those temp jobs.

I do think making the minimum wage twice as much as it is now (especially for fast food workers) is too much of a jump though. I was offered that hourly rate when I was out of college with a biology degree, working in a research lab at a major uni. I think that takes more skill than flipping burgers. Not like they could offer me much more, because grant money doesn't grow on trees.

i agree it's too much of a jump. it just frustrates me to think that i don't even make 15 an hour and someone who could work fast food would make more than i do. what's the incentive for me to keep my job if i can make more with a job like that.

i guess it just made me mad when i overheard conversations of people saying they weren't even trying to get jobs because they get plenty from food stamps etc. and these are the same people out buying ridiculously expensive, completely frivolous things with "their" money because everything else is covered by benefits etc. when i'm scraping by, with 3 jobs and get no kind of help.

little shade of bitter i am tonight haha

 

[Anita18]

i agree it's too much of a jump. it just frustrates me to think that i don't even make 15 an hour and someone who could work fast food would make more than i do. what's the incentive for me to keep my job if i can make more with a job like that.

i guess it just made me mad when i overheard conversations of people saying they weren't even trying to get jobs because they get plenty from food stamps etc. and these are the same people out buying ridiculously expensive, completely frivolous things with "their" money because everything else is covered by benefits etc. when i'm scraping by, with 3 jobs and get no kind of help.

little shade of bitter i am tonight haha

Yeah, my older conservative friend likes to complain about those kinds of people too, but I know a bunch of poor young folks and they are too proud to pull that kind of stunt. I think the majority of the working poor are just as hard-working as you and are legitimately trying to get by on their own volition.

It's actually kind of sad that people are perfectly happy staying where they are and mooching instead of as you said, bettering themselves. But the motivation really has to come from within. There are lot of rich folks who mooch too, they're just more clever about it.

 

[Teelie]

So what do you think is keeping all these other non-teenage people in fast food? Clearly they aren't in it for the benefits. What other jobs aren't they moving into that are superior? And why aren't they moving into them?

It's easy to write them off as lazy or unmotivated and moochers who live off food stamps and welfare without actually answering why they would do that.

If you've ever lived on welfare then you'd probably know it's not something most people would be proud of or enjoy doing. Of course you can easily find those exceptions that want to be there but they're not the majority of people who are on some kind of assistance.

 

[E-Man]

i agree it's too much of a jump. it just frustrates me to think that i don't even make 15 an hour and someone who could work fast food would make more than i do. what's the incentive for me to keep my job if i can make more with a job like that.

i guess it just made me mad when i overheard conversations of people saying they weren't even trying to get jobs because they get plenty from food stamps etc. and these are the same people out buying ridiculously expensive, completely frivolous things with "their" money because everything else is covered by benefits etc. when i'm scraping by, with 3 jobs and get no kind of help.

little shade of bitter i am tonight haha

Well if they raised the minimum wage then you would get paid more as well...that is unless your job screws you over. Ideally if these fast food workers get $15 then the rest of us get a bump in pay too because jobs choose their wages based on what the market is paying. That is what I'm hoping if the minimum wage gets bumped up, but we all know that things work different in reality in theory. I have no doubt that everyone will get a pay raise if fast food gets increased to $15, but the real test is how these companies treat things. They get away far too much with acting like they are losing so much money when they're the ones that's really ****ing everyone over.