Duncan Jones' Warcraft - Part 1

[psylockolussus]

That's not a good thing though. It's nice to be in the dark and still have enough to be hyped.

Star Wars trailer = Beautiful looking mystery

Warcraft trailer = generic hollywood trailer #130

I'm not even into Star Wars but its trailers (even the first trailer that was kinda meh) are better than the first trailer of this one.

 

[titansupes]

I'm sure most people would say Star Wars is closer to fantasy than science fiction.

Not most. It's a toss up depending on the mood.

Science-fantasy/space opera I believe are the most used terms. So you're both right.

 

[Octoberist]

Honestly when you call Star Wars sci-fi or fantasy, it's both. And many other things.

Like if Terminator and Back to the Future is sci-fi so is Star Wars.

 

[Silvermoon]

Am I the only one already pondering potential sequels?

Would love to see the second installment centered around Tides of Darkness/Beyond the Dark Portal. Gotta see that Polymorph magic and Troll Berserkers.

And there's plenty of content in Reign of Chaos/Frozen Throne for a third.

It'd be cool to see a trilogy of Warcraft films that barely even touches WoW. Then after that they can do whatever they want.

No, you're not the only one. I would LOVE to see sequels happen. I know a lot of people want to see the Arthas storyline. But for me, I really want to see the Night Elves eventually brought in along with Illidan (and see (at least some of) that arc)

 

[Drz]

It's pretty well known that a trailer's job, beyond making people want to see a movie, is to spotlight and reveal some of the story of the film. That's been a trailer's function since...forever.

While this trailer does that, it does so in a generic way, so a lot of people aren't real engaged so far.

STAR WARS trailers are indeed running on brand recognition/nostalgia. They're not particularly well conceived trailers. They just look cool, and they hit the right notes of nostalgia.

Contentwise, though...someone is on a quest for...something. Everyone looks very concerned about things. There are apparently some sort of space wars going on, with some sort of rebels fighting some kind of dark empire...that could be interesting. There's something called Jedi. Luke Skywalker may or may not be in this, and Darth Vader has a fanboy...there's not much really new there beyond the gender and race of lead characters.

See, this guy gets it!

 

[Abudefduf]

Personally I liked the trailer. The effects are not as bad as I was fearing, and the story... well it doesn't sound particularly interesting but I'm willing to give it a chance.

My biggest problem with what I'm seeing are the humans. They look very out of place next to the obviously animated... everything else.

Am I the only one already pondering potential sequels?

Can't wait for the Mist of Pandaria adaptation. A race of Asian-inspired panda warriors sound like an incredible concept for a movie, I'm sure nobody's ever done that before.

 

[Rocketman]

So this is gonna tank, right?

 

[Sithborg]

It's a little early to judge that.

 

[Drz]

So this is gonna tank, right?

Blizzard will find a way.

 

[Abudefduf]

This might sound like spitting in the face of meritocracy but I'd rather it not tank even if it's barely ok.

The fantasy genre has so much potential (I mean LotR was great and all but after the 50th time you watch it, it starts getting old. Maybe) and if this one tanks despite the recognizable name, what are the odds of studios highlighting more in the future?

And yep, I'm that pathetic and desperate.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

The trailer was ok, it made me remember WoW back in 2001 2004, nostalgia did the trick.

Ahh, 2001 WoW, prior to the game's existence? I see what you did there.

There was no jab at the movie in my post, just a bad memory of mine

 

[Rowsdower!]

This might sound like spitting in the face of meritocracy but I'd rather it not tank even if it's barely ok.

The fantasy genre has so much potential (I mean LotR was great and all but after the 50th time you watch it, it starts getting old. Maybe) and if this one tanks despite the recognizable name, what are the odds of studios highlighting more in the future?

And yep, I'm that pathetic and desperate.

Hey, we've got Seventh Son!

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Dances with orcs will probably do aight. Just not great

 

[Zantera]

I love it how people have already decided this is gonna be worse than Terminator Genisys. If anything, haven't people learned by now that trailers aren't something you should go on? Just in recent memory, a few surprising movies like The Gift and Edge of Tomorrow had terrible trailers. On the other side of that, a film like Prometheus had a magnificent trailer and ended up being mediocre at best.

People over-analyze the CGI. If Warcraft is a good movie and has a compelling story and good characters, the CGI won't ruin that. I think the main reason people bashed on The Hobbit because it was really underwhelming and especially compared to LOTR, those three films were very average. The fact that they had more CGI and less practical stuff just became the focus of the disappointment. The Hobbit films didn't disappoint because of the CGI, they disappointed because they were disappointing films.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

The gift did have a terrible trailer. So did Fant4stic though

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I love it how people have already decided this is gonna be worse than Terminator Genisys.

Get used to it. As soon as people decided dumping on this film would be their new favorite hobby any potential use of this thread by actual fans was compromised. Whatever discussion might have been had will now be buried under endless theory-wank by our resident cgi and marketing "experts".

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Personally I liked the trailer. The effects are not as bad as I was fearing, and the story... well it doesn't sound particularly interesting but I'm willing to give it a chance.

My biggest problem with what I'm seeing are the humans. They look very out of place next to the obviously animated... everything else.

Can't wait for the Mist of Pandaria adaptation. A race of Asian-inspired panda warriors sound like an incredible concept for a movie, I'm sure nobody's ever done that before.

ugh. see this is why i hope the whole trilogy is based on the RTS games. If they want to do a second trilogy afterwards, good on them. But keep "Warcraft" Warcraft.

I hope they never do pandas though. The entire (imo absurd) aesthetic of intelligent anthropomorphic pandas aside, they just already have so many different rich and fun different species in these games.

Besides even if they did upwards of 6 movies they wouldnt need to call on Pandaria for any content.

1 - Orcs & Humans
2 - Tides of Darkness/Beyond the Dark Portal
3 - Reign of Chaos/Frozen Throne
4 - Vanilla WoW/Burning Crusade
5 - Wrath of the Lich King
6 - Cataclysm

or something to that effect.

 

[Drz]

It's almost like we're back on Fantastic Four forum, right?!

 

[Whiskey Tango]

1 - Orcs & Humans
2 - Tides of Darkness/Beyond the Dark Portal
3 - Reign of Chaos/Frozen Throne

I'd hope to at least get a run like this.

It's almost like we're back on Fantastic Four forum, right?!

It's nothing like that at all, unless this is a low-budget affair being birthed at the behest of lawyers and accountants in order to prevent the rights from being lost.

This project at least seems to be a good faith effort that respects its source material and the desires of it's fanbase, everything that Fant4stic did not.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I guess if Marvel had been involved in F4, and if any of the source material had been respected, and if they had spent any significant amount of time on the pre/post production of F4, let alone the marketing... yeah its just like that.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

But seriously did you guys look at that IGN vid I posted a few pages back? There's tons of easter eggs packed in this thing.

 

[TheVileOne]

I love it how people have already decided this is gonna be worse than Terminator Genisys. If anything, haven't people learned by now that trailers aren't something you should go on? Just in recent memory, a few surprising movies like The Gift and Edge of Tomorrow had terrible trailers. On the other side of that, a film like Prometheus had a magnificent trailer and ended up being mediocre at best.

People over-analyze the CGI. If Warcraft is a good movie and has a compelling story and good characters, the CGI won't ruin that. I think the main reason people bashed on The Hobbit because it was really underwhelming and especially compared to LOTR, those three films were very average. The fact that they had more CGI and less practical stuff just became the focus of the disappointment. The Hobbit films didn't disappoint because of the CGI, they disappointed because they were disappointing films.

The trailers for Edge of Tomorrow were not that bad. Also the film only made $100 million domestic and $269 million overseas. Not like it did over half a billion or anything.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

A point about CGI, how much did the CG in AoU change from trailer to trailer?

Most of the time films avoid those scenes entirely for the initial marketing so they have time to clean them up. But this movie is largely focused on the CGI. It'd be like a Dawn of the Planet of the Apes trailer without any apes in it.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Besides that, we are 8 months out and the CGI already looks better than James Cameron's Avatar.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Eh, I wouldn't go that far.

However, when did people here become such "graphics ****es"? So maybe the CGI isn't the best ever. If the movie's good, that won't matter. A lot of my favorite movies have effects that have aged horribly, and yes, that includes Star Wars.