Duncan Jones' Warcraft - Part 2

[DKDetective]

Except it does cheap and cosplay like. People think they wanted it to look like plastic? Of course not.

Bingo. You can do grand, over the top armor, but the materials and craftsmanship needs to sell the authenticity. A great example is the plate armour from Excalibur. It's big and shiny and you don't doubt that it is real metal even when there are people with fantasy wolf head and sculpted face helmets.

 

[Rowsdower!]

The Durotan/Ogrim clip is pretty good. Others are okay, but WTF accent is Fimmel doing here? He's supposed to be thus ultimate badass but he sounds like Pepe Le Pew.

I think the problem though, at least when it comes to the CGI on the orcs, is how weirdly proportioned they are. Their heads look too small for their bodies, while their hands are GIGANTIC. Yeah, I know that's how they look in the games. Big deal. It's just... unpleasant to look at in a movie.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I kinda begin falling into hype. The film is two weeks away...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Duncan Jones made an appearance on the debut episode of the Star Wars show. Talked a bit about Warcraft:

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[DarthSkywalker]

The Durotan/Ogrim clip is pretty good. Others are okay, but WTF accent is Fimmel doing here? He's supposed to be thus ultimate badass but he sounds like Pepe Le Pew.

I think the problem though, at least when it comes to the CGI on the orcs, is how weirdly proportioned they are. Their heads look too small for their bodies, while their hands are GIGANTIC. Yeah, I know that's how they look in the games. Big deal. It's just... unpleasant to look at in a movie.

I have no problem with their shape or proportions. I don't like how they stick out clearly in shot after shot.

 

[Drz]

Fimmel is doing the same accent he does with Ragnar.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I've only seen a couple episodes of Vikings but I don't remember him sounding like that. I could be wrong though.

 

[TheVileOne]

Is it just me or can you not hear his accent in the original trailers?

 

[2kt09]

Just you. That's definitely Ragnar Lothbrok.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Someone recreated the Warcraft trailer in game:

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[Zantera]

And some people still claim the movie looks like the game for some reason

 

[Marvolo]

I've only seen a couple episodes of Vikings but I don't remember him sounding like that. I could be wrong though.

That is how he sounds.

 

[2kt09]

And some people still claim the movie looks like the game for some reason

Haven't even realized how dated modern WoW looks compared to newer made-in-the-East mmorpg's

 

[redhawk23]

The only way one can describe this film's costumes as "cosplay like" is because the internet curates and promotes photos of the highest tier of cosplayers at the largest cons that are pretty much doing Hollywood level work. This is particularly true when it comes to a lot of videogame fandoms. Any eventual adaptation of Mass Effect would be hard pressed to compete with certain cosplay groups.

 

[Zantera]

Haven't even realized how dated modern WoW looks compared to newer made-in-the-East mmorpg's

Some of the newer MMORPGs look amazing. I think the graphic question with WoW has always been there, and I understand their dilemma. They have been going strong for so long, they want to hang onto their players by keeping GFX-requirements fairly low so that everyone can play. Plus that, apart from updating and slightly improving, they don't want to change their GFX-style too much since the game wouldn't be the same anymore.

So yeah, newer MMORPGs definitely have that advantage, they can go all out in that department.

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah at this point they should create a sequel, but the world they've built is so big win the expansions is that it's going to hurt them a bit. Also MMORGs aren't as big as they were anymore so I don't know if it's worth it.

 

[Octoberist]

The only way one can describe this film's costumes as "cosplay like" is because the internet curates and promotes photos of the highest tier of cosplayers at the largest cons that are pretty much doing Hollywood level work. This is particularly true when it comes to a lot of videogame fandoms. Any eventual adaptation of Mass Effect would be hard pressed to compete with certain cosplay groups.

Dude some of the Power Rangers cosplay look better than the actual versions they're using for the new movie.

 

[Octoberist]

Bingo. You can do grand, over the top armor, but the materials and craftsmanship needs to sell the authenticity. A great example is the plate armour from Excalibur. It's big and shiny and you don't doubt that it is real metal even when there are people with fantasy wolf head and sculpted face helmets.

I think they show or used the designs, but wear them out a bit. Even the most shiny armor in Lord of the Rings or Excalibur had a worn look.

 

[DKDetective]

I think they show or used the designs, but wear them out a bit. Even the most shiny armor in Lord of the Rings or Excalibur had a worn look.

Exactly. I have no issue with over the top armors and weapons, but there is just something so off about a lot of the armour and weapons for this film. Like King Llane's armor, the lion head's pauldron looks cast out of plastic. The texture and finish is off. It doesn't look like something made using preindustrial manufacturing techniques. It should like the Tiger Mask from Gladiator.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Convinced my dad to go and watch the film in a theater. He was such a Warcraft 1-2 fan in 90s.

 

[redhawk23]

Dude some of the Power Rangers cosplay look better than the actual versions they're using for the new movie.

Imagine if instead of try ing to make them Iron Man theyed had made costumes more similar to Black Panther in civil war. Damn shame.

 

[redhawk23]

Overall it's just a different aesthetic than LotR which it desperately needs to have. Gladiator and Lord of the Rings aimed for a realism this film simply isn't.

 

[DKDetective]

Overall it's just a different aesthetic than LotR which it desperately needs to have. Gladiator and Lord of the Rings aimed for a realism this film simply isn't.

Then they should have made it a full mo-cap animated film. They is no point in make a live-action film with real actors and sets if the costumes and props are going to be unconvincing. They whole point of a live action film is to bring something to "life". There needs to be some realism. Yes, it is good that they are going for a different aesthetic than LoTR, but they need to pull it off, which they aren't with the Alliance side of things. The example from Gladiator is not distinguishable. The particular set of armor I referenced was the highly theatrical armor of a champion Gladiator. It was not the practical armor of Maximus's legionaries. It is an example of over the top, theatrical armor effectively brought to life on film. It's like the old Batsuit argument. Some claimed that that a comics accurate Batsuit would look like the spandex of the Dead End suit. Well, the Batfleck suit was comics accurate while still looking believable on film.

 

[Octoberist]

The problem with a full mo-cap film would be the humans themselves.

 

[redhawk23]

Then they should have made it a full mo-cap animated film. They is no point in make a live-action film with real actors and sets if the costumes and props are going to be unconvincing. They whole point of a live action film is to bring something to "life". There needs to be some realism. Yes, it is good that they are going for a different aesthetic than LoTR, but they need to pull it off, which they aren't with the Alliance side of things. The example from Gladiator is not distinguishable. The particular set of armor I referenced was the highly theatrical armor of a champion Gladiator. It was not the practical armor of Maximus's legionaries. It is an example of over the top, theatrical armor effectively brought to life on film. It's like the old Batsuit argument. Some claimed that that a comics accurate Batsuit would look like the spandex of the Dead End suit. Well, the Batfleck suit was comics accurate while still looking believable on film.[/QUOTE

Making something live action does not necessitate the kind of aesthetic you're wishing for. It's fine that you're not into it but it's simply not what they're doing. It's not as if they tried something g and failed.

This movie is more akin to something like Speed Racer or Burton's Alice In Wonderland films. This actually brings to mind film aesthetics like Never ending Story or Labyrinth. Honestly, what do you think of films like Terry Gilliam's?