Duncan Jones' Warcraft - Part 2

[Drz]

I wonder if they retconned Turalyon to be Anduin's son.

 

[OutOfBoose]

https://***********/TSM_Leffen/status/735202889975627776
https://***********/LegoIasQuinn/status/735195642893611008 (applause in France)
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[DarthSkywalker]

What kind of screening was this?

 

[OutOfBoose]

What kind of screening was this?

https://***********/Millenium Probably premiere in France.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

https://***********/Millenium Probably premiere in France.

So critics and general public?

 

[OutOfBoose]

So critics and general public?

I wasn't there. But given the amount of cosplayers, I doubt they're critics. Not all of them, for sure.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I wasn't there. But given the amount of cosplayers, I doubt they're critics. Not all of them, for sure.

Oh I know. But if it was a premiere, usually you have a mix of general audiences/fan and critics. This wasn't a fan screening or a critics screening.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

There are some American reviews up.

The Wrap and Variety's reviews are negative while The Hollywood Reporter's review is positive.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Negative critic reaction is pretty much a given.

 

[Octoberist]

What sorta sucks is that I like the critic from The Wrap.

What he said here really jives on how much I (and Doctor Jones to a degree)) dislike Simon Duggan as a cinematographer:

 

[Marvolo]

Im not expecting this to be a winner with the critics. Even the best material Warcraft has to offer will probably be dismissed as fantasy drivel for pimple faced nerds. I doubt they will give this film an inch of slack no matter how "fun" it is.

While Im definitely curious to see how badly the critics react to the film, they wont be swaying me from seeing the film in theaters.

 

[Logan0327]

the wrap review seems overly hyperbolic and scathing he said he would rather watch super mario brothers movie and compared to to battlefield earth but not as fun lol

the other negative was much more level headed

 

[Kyle]

There are some American reviews up.

The Wrap and Variety's reviews are negative while The Hollywood Reporter's review is positive.

Figured. This keeps up not watching it. Critics was always going to be the deciding factor for me in case there was more here than meets the eye. I go the movies at least once to twice a week or more sometimes and outside of interesting visuals this film looks like it has no hook as a non gamer. Especially them saying it was "boring" to them which outside of the visuals this always struck me as, it seems they went too targeted on Warcraft fans here while forgetting films need to be received by a larger more general audience.

 

[Octoberist]

the wrap review seems overly hyperbolic and scathing he said he would rather watch super mario brothers movie and compared to to battlefield earth but not as fun lol

the other negative was much more level headed

It is hyperbolic though often, I tend to agree with him. Not all the time though.

The problem is..I'm trying to be optimistic about the film but often, when I feel 'meh' about a movie early on, I tend to be right. I'm not bragging or anything.

Maybe it's a sixth sense or my intuition, but usually my gut feeling tends to come true all too often. Just from the trailers, clips, posters, etc.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

the wrap review seems overly hyperbolic and scathing he said he would rather watch super mario brothers movie and compared to to battlefield earth but not as fun lol

the other negative was much more level headed

Variety's review as also full of crap. He complained that he couldn't understand what the Orcs were saying, and yet they sound fine in the trailers. What a liar.

 

[Kyle]

Variety's review as also full of crap. He complained that he couldn't understand what the Orcs were saying, and yet they sound fine in the trailers. What a liar.

I'm a new comer so I don't find that hard to believe at all. Catering to the fans and forgetting general audiences this film reeks as something that would utilize potential words and terms that only the gamers would get. Too new of jargon with no set up or too much at once could very easily make them hard to understand in the film while easier in the trailers.

 

[Logan0327]

It is hyperbolic though often, I tend to agree with him. Not all the time though.

The problem is..I'm trying to be optimistic about the film but often, when I feel 'meh' about a movie early on, I tend to be right. I'm not bragging or anything.

Maybe it's a sixth sense or my intuition, but usually my gut feeling tends to come true all too often. Just from the trailers, clips, posters, etc.

for me i dont listen to critics too much but trusted bloggers like the schmoes and the collider crew i usually agree with what they say

i probably wont see this in theatres due to how many blockbusters this year only so much money and time and i already got to see x men this weekend

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Attacking the critics is stupid and it's especially stupid if one hasn't seen the film yet.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Well, both Variety and The Wrap didn't convince me the film is a dud. Hyperbolic and dismissive. Hollywood Reporter review looks more level-headed. It doesn't praise the **** out of the film, but fairly describes ups and downs of the film and what to expect.

 

[Octoberist]

I must say though, it's worrisome when you have a great cast, from Paula Patton to Dominic Cooper, and they're barely in the trailers. Even the dude from Vikings had what..two lines in the ads so far, and spells trouble.

Ben Foster hasn't even been featured in anything but that clip, and he's legit.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I've always said that this film is going to have to get good reviews to get me into the theater and I'm standing by that comment.

 

[MadVillainy]

screw the critics what do they know

 

[MOVIELORD101]

I will take a video game movie that's TRYING HARD to be good like this than one that took the easy, lazy way out like Angry Birds did. At least Duncan Jones and company are doing everything they can to make this good.

I'm sick to death of video game movies either not understanding the material or just not having any effort put into them or BOTH (ex. all of Uwe Boll's films). If the fans like them (and with Warcraft, there's a TON of fans for that series who will flock to this) and the critics don't, FINE! I don't ****ing CARE anymore! Most of these critics have probably never played any of the games most of these are based off of, let alone any video game at all in their entire lives! They wouldn't KNOW how faithful or not these movies are to their source materials. Therefore, their words mean jack all to me! Speaking as a gamer, if I feel these movies are like the games they're based off at all or are just plain bad, THAT'S what matters to me with these game video game movies. I don't give a damn anymore about some 50-year old snob who wouldn't know Super Mario Bros from Legend of Zelda! Perhaps the rest of us should start feeling the same way and not scream doom and gloom because of 1-2 bad early reviews before WE see the movie for ourselves.

screw the critics what do they know

In short, what Blackman said!

 

[Kyle]

Well, both Variety and The Wrap didn't convince me the film is a dud. Hyperbolic and dismissive. Hollywood Reporter review looks more level-headed. It doesn't praise the **** out of the film, but fairly describes ups and downs of the film and what to expect.

It's because as guessed, the aim for the film was oddly never general audiences. They were too focused on the gamers. My bet is the Hollywood Reporter critic played the game. Here gamers can't take what critics say at heart because most critics aren't gamers.

As Variety even notes....

With little concern for all those already perplexed at the mention of orcs and mages, “Warcraft” plunges headfirst into a fantasy realm teeming with mythical creatures, magical spells and exotically named characters and locations. It’s a take-it-or-leave-it approach likely to have most audience members opting for the latter, though devotees of the immersive role-playing source material may have an entirely different experience. If so, Universal will have to hope they storm the box office early and often. Otherwise the studio could be looking at one of the biggest duds of the summer.

To those saying "screw the critics, what do they know?" This is a big budget summer release movie - not game - thus it is a problem that it would mostly and only excite those who played the game while alienating the rest of the audience. Alienating the general audience DOES as Universal pointed out a year ago make this a "problem" movie. No movie at all should alienate those who haven't played it.

 

[Octoberist]

The one thing that screamed out to me from the trailers that made me go 'geez i hope they fix that' was how..ugly this movie is...I hate saying that because there's talented people behind this. But it's not a pretty movie.