Age of Ultron Early Avengers 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[Spiderine]

I think it would have. It played strong being the first of it's kind. The whole concept of bringing superhero movies together was the sell there. This movie wasn't hit hard enough with mixed reviews for it to be affected by that at all, an even if it was these film are so much in a league of their own I don't think it would matter much at all. Way too many strong performers and sequels out there that were received worse.

This one wasn't bringing anything new to the table like the first. That new event status and curiosity from audiences is gone. That's the major difference here. Marvel will need something new to have a fresh event status for future crossovers in order to get to 2 bill, as well as a slew of audience pleasing films for their solos. They can't bank on playing the same hand with the same cast and expect things to go up.

Even if this got fantastic reviews or fan reaction like the first I don't think it would get that much increase. That new car ya bought in 2012 ain't so new anymore in 2015 ya know? If they wanted to hit 2 bil (which is near impossible) I really think they needed to have a new novelity to boost it. Maybe Spidey could work, maybe a better villain or maybe X-Men. I don't know. But something. Good reviews and happy fans is not enough to have that big of an increase when numbers are this high imo. All my pov of course. This is all new territory so it's difficult to say how these crossovers should play.

Everyone I know loves the film, but that's hardly proof of anything. Only time I see negative stuff is fans onlin tbh. While there are def very worthy issues for people to have with the film, the fan psyche nowadyas is so odd from more then a few that it's difficult to tell stuff in a general sense. All I know is that from my perspective it was well received from audiences and made a ****load of cash that almost no other frnachise can hit. It will be interesting in the next few years how the new additions play and how other stuiods expanded universe effects superhero films in general.

I couldn't agree more with every point you made in these posts. Not only was the appeal of the first movie off the charts and brought in different audiences but it had a huge boost from repeat viewership in the following weeks. Incredible legs to carry it to the finish line even with the enormous OW.

What we are about to embark on with 3 potential big comic book film universes over the next five years (WB,Marvel, FOX)along with various spinoffs and new property launches will tell us how much of an appetite the audiences have. Back to back JL and Avengers films in the same years? Can any of them recreate the magic we saw in 2012 with Avengers? It only really takes one to be a major BO disappointment to taint the others. If you think some people screaming about AOU less numbers are bad, wait and see what they say when the next set of films make even less.

 

[Iceman]

Tell me about it! James Cameron's films are unique and totally in a league of their own (as far as box office goes).

Yeah, Titanic at the same point (24 days) was at $197.9m. What a joke! Not even 1/3 of the way through its run.

 

[Iceman]

I couldn't agree more with every point you made in these posts. Not only was the appeal of the first movie off the charts and brought in different audiences but it had a huge boost from repeat viewership in the following weeks. Incredible legs to carry it to the finish line even with the enormous OW.

What we are about to embark on with 3 potential big comic book film universes over the next five years (WB,Marvel, FOX)along with various spinoffs and new property launches will tell us how much of an appetite the audiences have. Back to back JL and Avengers films in the same years? Can any of them recreate the magic we saw in 2012 with Avengers? It only really takes one to be a major BO disappointment to taint the others. If you think some people screaming about AOU less numbers are bad, wait and see what they say when the next set of films make even less.

The expectations won't be so crazy next time. I think $400m US and $800m overseas (supported by natural growth and expansion even if the aniticipation is less) is achievable long term and sustainable on all future Avengers films even if the reception on them all is similar to AoU. The next few years will tell us a lot about how long these properties can last in any case. I think they can end up being a very long term fixture in the release calender opening big and going out quickly, but making enough along the way to get to a total beyond most regular blockbusters.

 

[ironman_rick]

You know what...I am gonna call this first.

CA - CW is gonna outgross this movie. Cap vs Ironman is gonna have lots of "re-watchable" moments.

 

[Wildcard]

I think the fact that AOU has hit 1.2 bil WW and we are talking as if the movie is a disappointment shows just how high the bar has risen for MCU movies, especially ones with Avengers in the title. Meanwhile, Disney's 180 mil movie Tomorrowland only managed 40 mil in its OW. Making movies isn't as easy as it seems.

Or maybe every movie doesn't need to be made for $200 million? Or $150? Or $100? That seems like a better theory.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Seems like my prediction was kind of right, I voted for 1.4B-1.6B and it seems it will land on the lower end of that, kinda wished it made more but the film still did pretty great.

You know what...I am gonna call this first.

CA - CW is gonna outgross this movie. Cap vs Ironman is gonna have lots of "re-watchable" moments.

I think as long as the movie is good you're right, its a different kind of event for the MCU and it can pay off well and I really hope it sets the bar higher both critically and commercially.

 

[Vincanws]

You know what...I am gonna call this first.

CA - CW is gonna outgross this movie. Cap vs Ironman is gonna have lots of "re-watchable" moments.

I don't know, why people are constantly raising box office expectations is beyond me. It doesn't seem to add value to anything. At best, when it doesn't hit these expectations it by then default becomes classed as a disappointment, apparently.

 

[marvellover]

After AOU,no one should overestimate any MCU movie again in terms of box office,especially before the movie even comes out and watch it yourself

I expected the movie grossing more than TA before it came out
Then I watched the movie and totally understood why it didn't meet the expectation
It just isn't very good movie overall and lack the fun I had with the first one
I guess many people have the same opinion on this

I expect CW to be a much better movie than AOU despite having even more characters,but Russo Bros could drop their balls on this one
Not a CBM series has been consistent so far,the best one is still Batman Trilogy

 

[8ulk]

I expect CW to be a much better movie than AOU despite having even more characters,but Russo Bros could drop their balls on this one
Not a CBM series has been consistent so far,the best one is still Batman Trilogy

The best trilogy by far will be the Avengers after IW pt1 & pt2 if Marvel Studios makes at least a decent conclusion to the series. I know its cheating cause its a team movie but hey.

Captain America will also be a strong candidate if Civil War is as good as The Winter Soldier.

And the original Spidey series would be great if it wasnt for the 3rd meh movie. The exact same with the original X-Men trilogy.

As far as TDK trilogy although solid and one of the best its still pretty underwhelming.

The Dark Knight was the only EPIC entry in the franchise.
Batman Begins was good but thats about it. Nothing special.
And the TDK Rises was pretty underwhelming and left fans with a bitter taste at the end.

So for me its far from the best trilogy ever. Although still very good.

 

[Vincanws]

Then I watched the movie and totally understood why it didn't meet the expectation
It just isn't very good movie overall and lack the fun I had with the first one
I guess many people have the same opinion on this

Yeah as you keep telling us. We get you didn't like the movie, good for you.

 

[8ulk]

I expected the movie grossing more than TA before it came out
Then I watched the movie and totally understood why it didn't meet the expectation
It just isn't very good movie overall and lack the fun I had with the first one
I guess many people have the same opinion on this
Trilogy

AoU was darker than the original but that doesnt mean it was worse or a bad movie. Most of the time fun pop corn flicks will be more enjoyable to watch but dark movies have their appeal as well.

Personally i dont think there was a quality issue at all with AoU. It was pretty superb.

 

[Docker2.0]

The movie made over $1.3 B WW! Some people are painting this as doom and gloom and it's far from that! I actually think it came out at the wrong time. We will see what CW does next year. I also think Marvel should stop releasing films overseas first. Release them at the same time. You are giving bootleggers time to increase their profits by ramping up production while consumer demands are higher at lower cost.

 

[Spiderine]

The movie made over $1.3 B WW! Some people are painting this as doom and gloom and it's far from that! I actually think it came out at the wrong time. We will see what CW does next year. I also think Marvel should stop releasing films overseas first. Release them at the same time. You are giving bootleggers time to increase their profits by ramping up production while consumer demands are higher at lower cost.

When somebody predicts 1.6 to 2 bil it is disappointing. They are the ones crying. AOU is making right along the lines of what I predicted over a year ago. Watch how the sky fall if Civil War makes less than AOU. Mark my words, they will say Marvel is finally declining and the golden age is coming to an end.

And then bash the movie for having to many characters and a weak villain. And no after credit scene. Just watch.........

 

[doglee80]

I went and saw AOU again last night for the third time and the theater was PACKED. I couldn't believe it.

 

[Docker2.0]

When somebody predicts 1.6 to 2 bil it is disappointing. They are the ones crying. AOU is making right along the lines of what I predicted over a year ago. Watch how the sky fall if Civil War makes less than AOU. Mark my words, they will say Marvel is finally declining and the golden age is coming to an end.

And then bash the movie for having to many characters and a weak villain. And no after credit scene. Just watch.........

I agree, my original prediction was around $1.3B WW and that it wouldn't outgross the original. I changed it though a week before it's release though because I got caught up in the hype. I think it suffered from 2nd film syndrome. I do think CA:CW will make more than A:AoU due to better script and less women belittling. Some women were really pissed about how Scarlett Witch was treated during the movie! But I do think Infinity Wars is going to challenge Avatar for the number 2 spot for all time gross.

 

[Spiderine]

I agree, my original prediction was around $1.3B WW and that it wouldn't outgross the original. I changed it though a week before it's release though because I got caught up in the hype. I think it suffered from 2nd film syndrome. I do think CA:CW will make more than A:AoU due to better script and less women belittling. Some women were really pissed about how Scarlett Witch was treated during the movie! But I do think Infinity Wars is going to challenge Avatar for the number 2 spot for all time gross.

Yeah...Im kind of on the fence about IW because its split into two parts. If the first one doesn't truly captivate audiences then the second one may suffer a bit. I just got to wait to see who all will be in it and how well characters like the new Spiderman will be received. Most of all is how they portray Thanos going into the first film. I probably have to make a prediction a little closer to production. Two part films kind of scare me.

 

[ironman_rick]

The movie made over $1.3 B WW! Some people are painting this as doom and gloom and it's far from that! I actually think it came out at the wrong time. We will see what CW does next year. I also think Marvel should stop releasing films overseas first. Release them at the same time. You are giving bootleggers time to increase their profits by ramping up production while consumer demands are higher at lower cost.

This I agree.... They are shooting themselves in the foot when they release it O/S first. Unless they are pretty sure that it is an awesome film (like Skyfall & the the first avengers film) whereby the positive word of mouth o/s makes it a must-see movie when it releases a week after..... They should try to release it at the same time in the major markets.

TASM2 was released 2 weeks ahead of USA. And look what happen ? The negative reception and it couldn't even get $100M OW.

This along with bootlegs....

And yes, they gotta try to use other release dates. BVS is gonna gross FF7 type of $$$ next year and they will virtually have no domestic competiton for a whole month too.

 

[8ulk]

I do think CA:CW will make more than A:AoU due to better script and less women belittling. Some women were really pissed about how Scarlett Witch was treated during the movie! But I do think Infinity Wars is going to challenge Avatar for the number 2 spot for all time gross.

Lets hope im wrong but i think Cap 3 CW will not outgross AoU.
1,25-1-35 bil is my guess.

AoU will hit the 1,4 bil when Japan ends its run.

As far as IW i think it will be difficult to challenge Avatar if China continues to treat the Avengers franchise as a "b-level" blockbuster.

 

[Vincanws]

I went and saw AOU again last night for the third time and the theater was PACKED. I couldn't believe it.

Awesome to hear. Some people must like the movie, it is pretty good.

 

[rashad]

BoxOffice ‏@BoxOffice
https://***********/BoxOffice/status/605024906271715328 AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON: $894.2M Overseas Total / $1.3213B Global Total #Avengers #AgeOfUltron

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I predicted 1.8-2 Billion but in hindsight I was just too amped up and not being realistic. But I in no way consider the numbers AoU is pulling down in any way a failure. I also doubt Disney and Marvel feel that way either. But if the phase 3 line-up kills it then I think IW 1&2 will have a good shot at busting that $2B barrier

 

[Lorus]

I agree, my original prediction was around $1.3B WW and that it wouldn't outgross the original. I changed it though a week before it's release though because I got caught up in the hype. I think it suffered from 2nd film syndrome. I do think CA:CW will make more than A:AoU due to better script and less women belittling. Some women were really pissed about how Scarlett Witch was treated during the movie! But I do think Infinity Wars is going to challenge Avatar for the number 2 spot for all time gross.

um, what?

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Shocked that AoU won't even reach Avengers 1 numbers.

 

[def28]

Cause there are so many films to hit above Avengers 1 numbers...

It will just to have to settle being in the top 5 grossing films of all time ww. Poor Age Of Ulton.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Cause there are so many films to hit above Avengers 1 numbers...

It will just to have to settle being in the top 5 grossing films of all time ww. Poor Age Of Ulton.