Episode 05 - "Hiros" - Discussion Thread

[dabadguy5937]

It's probably just a case of his powers originally manifesting while he was high, so he has it in his head that he has to be high to use them.

i think the same, coming from some1 who used to be addicted to extacy in high school at times i could only be happy when i was on it and it seems like sylar will get to him eventually and take out his brains

 

[dabadguy5937]

Great episode. Hiro and Petrelli together was hilarious. When Nathan flew and did the Superman Returns circle of dust when he broke the sound barrier - priceless.

Cruised around on the net and found some stuff.

The song Matt played for his wife is the old standard I'm Confessin' (that I love you), I couldn't tell whose version it was. The song used for the 2 minute promo was Together by Krystal Meyers from the album Dying for a Heart. It's on itunes.

Executive producer / director Allan Arkush is the only director to have directed Frank Sinatra AND Joey Ramone.



Wikipedia has a good breakdown of the symbol

A frequently appearing symbol linked to the new heroes strongly resembles a stylized RNA molecule. This symbol has appeared numerous times and is frequently in some way related to a hero:

• In the swimming pool at a double homicide crime scene in which Matt Parkman was involved.
• As a recurring shape shown scrolling across a laptop screen in a genetic profiling program created by Chandra Suresh.
• On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli.
• Frequently painted by Isaac Mendez.
• On a post-it note on the map in Mohinder Suresh's apartment.
• Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet.
• Written on pictures in Sylar's apartment.
• As a tattoo on the shoulder of Niki Sanders' alternate personality.
• Engraved on the hilt of Future Hiro's katana.
• Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book.
• Printed on the upper left corner of the 14th issue of '9th Wonders comic book, written by Isaac Mendez (The 13th issue that Micah was reading did not have the symbol).
• A necklace around Mr. Bennet's special assistant's neck.

Wikipedia also has the best super power description I have ever read - Heroin-induced precognition.

i wanna watch all the episodes again i've seen like 2 or 3 times i thought it just had something to do with clairs fathers people like nikki was involved with the black guy but if its all those places its probably has some crazy significance

 

[Knives122]

No, peter is not like rogue. rogue steals powers. there is no evidence to suggest Peter does anything of the sort

Sylar may be like Rogue though(taking peoples brains and having what seems to be a lot of powers). And from what peter finished in the picture, Sylar will be killing Claire, taking her powers then blowing up NY.

 

[AtrophyG4]

It's probably just a case of his powers originally manifesting while he was high, so he has it in his head that he has to be high to use them.

I agree. He is relating the preminitions to his being high, but now that he has seen Peter do it without being high, I think he will seek help. Also, in the two minute preview posted in another thread, HRG comes to see him in some sort of hospital enviroment, which could be a rehab center.

 

[terarist]

Sylar may be like Rogue though(taking peoples brains and having what seems to be a lot of powers). And from what peter finished in the picture, Sylar will be killing Claire, taking her powers then blowing up NY.

Isn't it interesting, that of all the characters we've been introduced to, only Sylar has exhibited multiple abilities, both explicitly, and implied.
He's shown us:
Flight (could also be telekenesis)
Telepathy (with the gun and the agent)
Telekenesis, or super strength (person posted to railing in house)
Mutant detection? (akin to Callisto, of the morlocks)
And some form of invulnerability (bullets falling to floor?)
It's strange that he's the only character with multiple powers. It's strange that he has a predilection for removing the skull cap, and taking the brain. His references to "hunger" are also strange. I would wager that Sylar is something akin to Nathan's brother's power. Though less of a Mimic, and more of a Rogue in the Ms Marvel way. What if Sylar is simply amassing power, by stealing the powers of other mutants? His hunger simply for power.
In that light, saving the cheerleader could actually save the world. If he were able to acquire her regenerative abilities, along with the abilities he's already acquired, he could be nigh on impossible to stop. A virtual superman.

 

[AnimeJune]

Nathan's flight looked pretty damn good, just the way he took off and had that little "poof" gave me tingles .

Also, Claire's dad was pretty badass. I thought for sure he was going to put a bullet in the kid, but what he did was way better.

That made the episode for me - Nathan is HAWT. That whole scene where he manipulates the woman into giving him $4 million dollars, followed by that wicked grin of his, was fantastic.

And I must say, I have not found a reason to dislike Daddy Glasses. Opening a can of psychic-amnesia-whoopass on Brody was classic.

Plus, I like Claire again! She admitted what she did was wrong, she even apologized for it (although I think this was a little much, it went a long way to redeeming her in my eyes), but she told her dad the truth. AWESOME!

I'm actually beginning to think that Claire might be a weapon to be specifically used against Sylar, and maybe that's why Daddy Glasses adopted her in the first place.

 

[PLAS]

That made the episode for me - Nathan is HAWT. That whole scene where he manipulates the woman into giving him $4 million dollars, followed by that wicked grin of his, was fantastic.

And I must say, I have not found a reason to dislike Daddy Glasses. Opening a can of psychic-amnesia-whoopass on Brody was classic.

Plus, I like Claire again! She admitted what she did was wrong, she even apologized for it (although I think this was a little much, it went a long way to redeeming her in my eyes), but she told her dad the truth. AWESOME!

I'm actually beginning to think that Claire might be a weapon to be specifically used against Sylar, and maybe that's why Daddy Glasses adopted her in the first place.

it seems I'm not the only one who thinks there's much more to Claire's dad than just being "evil" and whatnot

his scene with Brody was one of the best in the episode, even better than the Future Hiro scene

 

[Wolfwood]

it seems I'm not the only one who thinks there's much more to Claire's dad than just being "evil" and whatnot

his scene with Brody was one of the best in the episode, even better than the Future Hiro scene

I think there's more to him too, and really what has he done to earn the title of being evil? No one has been hurt, he's only really been gathering information.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

He'll probably end up being a sort of the means justify the ends type of character. Good intention but evil methods.

 

[Hiro]

Great episode. The Peter/Isaac scenes gave me goosebumps. Terrific music and a real feeling of dread.

Nathan calmly asserting he's gonna kill bad dad and sidekick then zooming off - the badass congressman of all time.

Glad Hiro and Ando are back together. Now it looks like there going to be meeting Peter and Isaac.

Peter's mimic power seems to have some staying power. He drew the future stick drawing quite a while after being in contact with Isaac.

No Simone or short haired neighbour in this one.

 

[Amazing Afroman]

...No Simone or short haired neighbour in this one.

Good. That short haired neighbor is annoying. The preview showed her with Mr. Bennet later in the season. Hopefully she'll become more interesting.

 

[Logan Creed]

Isn't it interesting, that of all the characters we've been introduced to, only Sylar has exhibited multiple abilities, both explicitly, and implied.
He's shown us:
Flight (could also be telekenesis)
Telepathy (with the gun and the agent)
Telekenesis, or super strength (person posted to railing in house)
Mutant detection? (akin to Callisto, of the morlocks)
And some form of invulnerability (bullets falling to floor?)
It's strange that he's the only character with multiple powers. It's strange that he has a predilection for removing the skull cap, and taking the brain. His references to "hunger" are also strange. I would wager that Sylar is something akin to Nathan's brother's power. Though less of a Mimic, and more of a Rogue in the Ms Marvel way. What if Sylar is simply amassing power, by stealing the powers of other mutants? His hunger simply for power.
In that light, saving the cheerleader could actually save the world. If he were able to acquire her regenerative abilities, along with the abilities he's already acquired, he could be nigh on impossible to stop. A virtual superman.

All of these could be a form of telekenesis. The mutant detection thing was done by Mohinder's father as well, who most likely doesn't have powers at all.

 

[PLAS]

All of these could be a form of telekenesis. The mutant detection thing was done by Mohinder's father as well, who most likely doesn't have powers at all.

maybe he's also familiar with Chandra Suresh's work

 

[Fanticon]

I just wanna say 2 things...
1. I knew Hiro itentionally didn't stop time to get himself and Ando out of trouble from last weeks ep because he wanted to show Ando the consequences of their actions for exploiting his power to cheat at the poker tables. I had mentioned this last week somewhere just to put all that to rest.
2. Nathan flying....that sh** gave me goosebumps...especially since before he flew away...he said "i've seen your faces, I'll come back for you" sounds like a threat! Speaking of his take-off...how bout that landing?! Great special effects...and a great moment between Hiro and Nathan.

 

[Logan Creed]

maybe he's also familiar with Chandra Suresh's work

He is. Remember the phone message Mohinder found on his father's answering machine from Sylar in the first or second episode? His father apparently was working with him, or trying to figure out his powers.

If I remember correctly, Sylar blames Mohinder's father for making him the way he is in the message.

I'm pretty sure Mohinder found one of his father's books in Sylar's apartment, too.

 

[Fanticon]

anyone have a smally video clip of Nathans flight or landing?

 

[Gold Samurai]

ratings just keep getting better and better

Mediaweek Comparisons:
First Week: 9.9/14 in the overnights (#1 overall), 14.29 million viewers (#1) and a 5.9/14 among adults 18-49 (#1)

Second Week: 9.4/14 in the overnights (#2), 12.57 million viewers (#2) and a first-place 5.3/13 among adults 18-49

Third Week: 9.2/13 in the overnights (#2), 13.31 million viewers (#2) and a first-place 5.9/14 among adults 18-49.

Fourth Week: (9.1/13) and total viewers (13.07 million), and a solid No. 1 among adults 18-49 (5.7/13)

Fifth Weekvernights: #2, 9.5/14; Viewers: #1 overall, 14.27 million; A18-49: #1, 6.2/15

 

[PLAS]

ratings just keep getting better and better

not to mention those of us who watch it abroad on premiere night

 

[Sebastos]

^ Soooo cool!

And here's what SHH! reported.

Heroes Delivers Best Ratings to Date
Source: Variety October 24, 2006

Variety reports that NBC's Heroes delivered its best ratings to date on Monday night:

According to preliminary nationals from Nielsen, "Heroes" (6.2 rating/15 share in adults 18-49, 14.3 million viewers overall) was up nearly 10% week to week to log the highest regular-slot 18-49 score for a first-year drama in the past two seasons. It was up a big 55% over NBC's non-sports average in the timeslot last season.

In related news, the Hollywood trade paper says that Jack Coleman, who plays the hit drama's mysterious Mr. Bennet, has been made a series regular. He'll join the series full time in its 11th episode.

Coleman plays the father of Claire Bennet (Hayden Panettiere), the cheerleader at the center of the show's current "Save the Cheerleader" story arc.

The actor's character is also known as "H.R.G." - short for "Horn Rimmed Glasses," a strange figure who is seen kidnapping people (including Greg Grunberg's character, Matt Parkman) and experimenting on them.

So Mr. Bennet will play more than his part.

 

[The Squirrel]

Great episode!

Loved Hiro watching Nathan fly.

Loved Nathan breaking the sound barrier.

 

[Rong]

anyone have a smally video clip of Nathans flight or landing?

You can find the whole episode here

http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/?show=heroes

His flight is in part 1, landing at the end of part 2. The landing was my favorite part, kept the flight (if you'll forgive the pun) grounded. Skiiiiiid ow!

 

[Sebastos]

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[Sebastos]

Nathan was all kinds of awesomeness.

 

[Hiruu]

Not exactly,peter is like the mutant from generation x named (sync),who was badass by the way

ahh the power of ...waffles

nathan reminded me of "cannonball"...just me...ok

I really dont give a crap about matt and his "so hot sexy wife/marriage problems". I just dont

Uh, I'd be a little more unerved, if a total stranger just knew where i lived and showed up at my backdoor ..niki

D.L is a "Kitty Pryde" type...crap, i hate kitty pride,but what can you do?

There's acutally a Marvel character call Mimic - "He can copy the powers of other mutants around him. This ability is limited to five powers at a time, and at only half the potency of the original possessor of that power. Mimic is currently using the powers of Cyclops, Colossus, Northstar, Wolverine, and the Beast. He also has some residual telepathy from when he mimicked the abilities of Jean Grey."

 

[blksuperman2]

Awesome episode. I like how everything is coming together. I really could care less about the cop who can read minds. He's the only character that seems removed from the others.