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Chiwetel Ejiofor's parents were Nigerian immigrants.

It's one thing being a skilled actor it's another entirely to grow up around African immigrant parents.

Plus he had a tragic loss of his father (who was a doctor) when he was a pre-teen.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiwetel_Ejiofor

Once you include his martial arts expertise, it's clear the guy was basically born to play T'Challa.
But none of that means anything really. Sad about his father and interesting about his background but that doesnt make him any more qualified to play T'Challa than some others.
If we're talking just pure acting skills it's a matter of opinion and I cant argue that
 
Im gonna put a huge flaw in this logic. My parents are from Ghana, West Africa, I'm the 2nd person ever on both sides of my family to be born in America and I cant even fake an Ghanaian accent well. I've heard the accent all my life and still do and I cant do it. In fact my brothers and none of my cousins can really fake the accent well.
Just because you come from African immigrants doesn't mean that you'd do the accent better. That's really flawed logic.

I mean Forest Whitaker, Morgan Freeman, Derek Luke, Kerry Washington, are not the sons/daughters of African immigrants and they did the African accents well in their respective movies.

By this logic RDJ shouldnt have been Sherlock Holmes because he's not the son of British immigrants, Hugh Jackman shouldnt have been Wolverine because he's not the son of Canadian immigrants, and Christian Bale shouldnt have been Batman/Patrick Bateman/Dickie Eklund because he's not the son of American/Bostonian immigrants, and so on
 
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I have some problems with your logic. The bolded is a generalization. You can't just apply it blindly to individuals as though "Everyone who is African understands Africa better than everyone who isn't African" -not withstanding that every actor with an African surname/parents is not African. And since you can't draw that conclusion, it's entirely possible for a non-African actor to be more authentic and more realistic as an African than someone whose parents are African immigrants. Also, Africa isn't a country, it's an entire continent. It's like wanting someone Candadian to play Captain America, because they'll bring that 'North American authenticity.' Obviously, no one cares about that, so I the picture that it's not about the movie, and how real it is, but about a strange need for real life to be like the fictional story, which is fine, I wish we could just separate it from the idea that all African actors are capable of something all non-African actors are not.

In my view, African actors shouldn't get any preference for being African, or having African parentage, or having an African last name. If they have experience that is relevant, it should show up as a superior performance/audition. If it doesn't show up as a superior performance/audition, it never mattered anyway.

I think he means it in the context of the accent. As i pointed out above, by being British i noticed little inconsistencies with Jolie's British accent in 'Tomb Raider'. To someone non-British they weren't very noticeable. I think he meant that an AA putting on an African accent, the flaws will be more noticeable to someone who is African than someone who is not.
 
It's called acting guys. Just because someone may be closer to a characters origins doesn't mean they're more qualified for the role. Anyway, with this new bit of information, I would make Hodge my second choice after Chiwetel.
 
what does a Wakandan accent sound like?
 
If Chiwetel throws HIS hat into the ring, all bets are off.

I'll take an actual African immigrant, one generation removed, over an American trying a foreign accent any day. Not disrespecting Hodge or Mackie, nor would I ragequit a BP movie if either gets the call, but again: Marvel, let's try African or African immigrant actors first.

You're talking about giving up on someone before they even get a chance to play the part. That's silly as hell. I want Chiwetel Ejiofor above all the other guys, but that doesn't mean that someone else couldn't play the role well.

I thought people would have learned their lesson from the Heath Ledger hate. When he was announced people **** bricks. After he died half the internet had Joker avatars and quotes.:whatever:
 
Hey, half the guys here are trying to cast Americans *before* giving well-known African or African immigrants a chance. So sue me if I would prefer it to be the other way round....I've been through 100 someodd years of Italians, Spaniards, Mexicans and South Bronx thugs trying to play American Indians. Some authenticity in casting would be a refreshing change in Hollywood. But hey, no, let's stick to a short list of L.A.'s finest, just like always, because clearly there are no actors outside of Hollywood USA
 
Hey, half the guys here are trying to cast Americans *before* giving well-known African or African immigrants a chance. So sue me if I would prefer it to be the other way round....I've been through 100 someodd years of Italians, Spaniards, Mexicans and South Bronx thugs trying to play American Indians. Some authenticity in casting would be a refreshing change in Hollywood. But hey, no, let's stick to a short list of L.A.'s finest, just like always, because clearly there are no actors outside of Hollywood USA

Well to be fair we kinda do the opposite when it comes to casting roles in here. It's pretty much Hardy/Fassbender Town up in here.
 
Who's the short list of black actors in Hollywood anyway? Denzel, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, Don Cheadle, Jamie Foxx? None of those apply to BP. Black American or African, they're going to be picking someone off the grid for this role regardless.
 
Hey, half the guys here are trying to cast Americans *before* giving well-known African or African immigrants a chance. So sue me if I would prefer it to be the other way round....I've been through 100 someodd years of Italians, Spaniards, Mexicans and South Bronx thugs trying to play American Indians. Some authenticity in casting would be a refreshing change in Hollywood. But hey, no, let's stick to a short list of L.A.'s finest, just like always, because clearly there are no actors outside of Hollywood USA

Technically... African Americans are descendants from African immigrants. Italians are by definition not native Americans for instance.
 
Hey, half the guys here are trying to cast Americans *before* giving well-known African or African immigrants a chance. So sue me if I would prefer it to be the other way round....I've been through 100 someodd years of Italians, Spaniards, Mexicans and South Bronx thugs trying to play American Indians. Some authenticity in casting would be a refreshing change in Hollywood. But hey, no, let's stick to a short list of L.A.'s finest, just like always, because clearly there are no actors outside of Hollywood USA

By that logic we shouldn't use Ejiofor or Elba either. Sure they're the kids of African immigrants, but that doesn't mean that they'll automatically be the best choice. Just look at what Blackman said about being the son of Ghanan immigrants. If we're playing the authentic card then the only people that should be up for the role are actual people from Africa.

Plus it's a lot different to see a black American playing an African compared to an Italian playing a Native American. Black Americans and black Africans are of the same race. It's no different than a white British guy playing a white American like Christian Bale playing Bruce Wayne. Native Americans and Italians are two different races entirely.

Also, Don Cheadle was absolutely great in Hotel Rwanda. Anika Noni Rose, who should be playing something in a Black Panther movie because she's awesome, played a helluva Botswanan in The Number 1 Ladies Detective Agency. Derek Luke did very well in Catch a Fire. Americans can play the role. It's all up to the individual.
 
Actors screw up accents all the time in movies.

Getting a skilled actor who has a great deal of exposure to the appropriate accent just increases the chances of a flawless accent in the movie.

But there are at least half a dozen other reasons to cast Chiwetel.
 
Yeah Chewy is a good choice for the role but being the son of African immigrants isnt one of them.

I mean it doesnt hurt, but it doesnt automatically help either
 
I'm just waiting for someone to give ONE good reason why Chiwetel *shouldn't* be the Black Panther.

Just one.
 
I'm just waiting for someone to give ONE good reason why Chiwetel *shouldn't* be the Black Panther.

Just one.

He doesn't look like how I would imagine T'Challa to actually look. Also, I want someone who looks younger.
 
^bull,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eb3iupeSoE

^^bull,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0wq1VzKdkY

^^^and bull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83twDFjlCjM&feature=relmfu

Plus, I like Chewy's bit at the end of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWSQZ5POgB8

...that's what I'm talking about when you get an actual African in the role....they bring more than just an authentic accent; they bring mannerisms, proverbs, just an overall knowledge of the culture that an American or a Brit (or any other non-African) wouldn't have a clue about. And that adds to the authenticity.

And I think Chiwetel has more than proven his action movie chops, too, in Serenity and Redbelt.

Several other posters have already said it, but it bears repeating: he was born to play T'challa. He is the gold (and black) standard.
 
Marvel is going to cast the best person for the role. While being from Africa would be great an overall knowledge of the culture means nothing when you are dealing with a fictional culture that is also supposedly keeps to itself. Hemsworth wasn't cast because he is Norse or from a Norse culture.
Also: We don't know what take Marvel is going to take with Black Panther. So while we might feel one actor is good for comic book T'challa...we don't know if that is what MCU T'challa will be like.
 
Chiwetel just doesnt look like T'Challa. Djimon Hounsou wouldve been perect but hes too old...id have him as T'Chaka though.

Hodge looks the closest to who i think would look like T'Challa. as for his acting resume...
 
Actually I'd arguethat Chewy looks a lot like T'Challa.
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Honsou doesnt look like T'Challa to me at all to me

However only supporting Chewy and turning down every other choice and calling other's posts "bull" is not helping the conversation
 
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