Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - Part 37

[Perfect Cell]

Some people take personal offense at criticism for things they enjoy. Sports teams, movies, TV shows, etc. They become offended as if you insulted them directly. Then there are some people who just like everything. Every movie is a 10/10, every TV show is must-see viewing, everything is awesome. Then there are the people who fit in the cross section where the two above venn diagrams meet. People are free to enjoy what they want, and believe what they want, but that last group can get... exhausting.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Relying solely on reviews to determine the quality of a film is pointless, and any site that tracks reviews and uses them to determine a film's quality is also pointless and therefore meaningless.

The quality of a film is not determined by whether or not it's reviewed well and never should be.

The entire question here is critical consensus. But come on, tell me what determines the consensus view on a film? Do you want to go with box office?

The answer cannot be personal preference here, as we are talking consensus.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Lets get this thing back on track, shall we?

Who else is excited for Blogtor Doom? I'm a big Toby Kebbell fan!

 

[Kanon]

Relying solely on reviews to determine the quality of a film is pointless, and any site that tracks reviews and uses them to determine a film's quality is also pointless and therefore meaningless.

The quality of a film is not determined by whether or not it's reviewed well and never should be.

Reviews, if correct and objective (and there is no ground to doubt the quality of the reviews) are a perfect, and dare say the only, way to determine a film quality.

What other factor would you take into account? Box office take? your personal opinion? subjective view from a fan? Some formula factoring lenght, budget, awards?

 

[Perfect Cell]

Lets get this thing back on track, shall we?

Who else is excited for Blogtor Doom? I'm a big Toby Kebbell fan!

I liked the voice he used in the trailer. That seemed appropriately threatening. Where the rest of it goes, I don't know, but.... cool voice?

 

[Kanon]

Lets get this thing back on track, shall we?

Who else is excited for Blogtor Doom? I'm a big Toby Kebbell fan!

I wanna now what happened to Mole Man!

 

[DigificWriter]

I don't personally believe that the idea of "critical consensus" means anything. I also don't believe that critical reviews in and of themselves mean anything.

Note: The reason that I hold these viewpoints is that I've been burned by basing my decision-making on reviews in the past.... a case in point being the video game Odin Sphere, which received a 9.5 review score on IGN but which turned out to be pointless, repetitive, and frustratingly stupid when I actually played it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So, how do we determine if a films has reviewed well or not DigificWriter? Do we use magic?

Where did I put my broomstick?

Is that the one with Daddario? If so, I dig it. Horrible movie, but I need my fix.

Even Daddario's hotness couldn't save that film.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Reviews, if correct and objective (and there is no ground to doubt the quality of the reviews) are a perfect, and dare say the only, way to determine a film quality.

What other factor would you take into account? Box office take? your personal opinion? subjective view from a fan? Some formula factoring lenght, budget, awards?

Lack of Razzies nominations.

 

[RAE072]

I wanna now what happened to Mole Man!

He was a mole for a foreign government.

Then he gets exposed and has to go "underground."

Grounded! Gritty! Realistic!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

^ I don't personally believe that the idea of "critical consensus" means anything. I also don't believe that critical reviews in and of themselves mean anything.

Then what is your methodology?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Where did I put my broomstick?

Next to my flying motorcycle.

Even Daddario's hotness couldn't save that film.

I'm weak.

 

[Kanon]

Lack of Razzies nominations.

OMG, I just realize that this is going to be a big Razzie contender... Pixels will probably take the spotlight, but FF is gonna be right up there too.

 

[Snow Queen]

Where did I put my broomstick?

Even Daddario's hotness couldn't save that film.

Excuse me, it can save anything.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Then what is your methodology?

Whatever suits his argument at that given moment.

Seriously people, please stop giving that guy attention. He's proven himself obtuse at best and intellectually dishonest at worst. Don't engage him and he'll fade back into obscurity soon enough.

 

[DigificWriter]

Then what is your methodology?

1) Looking up information about the film (such as a synopsis, trailer, etc) and determining whether or not I'm interested in what I see/read

2) Seeing the film myself (if I'm interested in it)

3) Judging the film based on its content

 

[Son of Coul]

I pose the question, again, why you believe that studio execs would set this embargo if they were confident in the product? I'm genuinely fascinated to know.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

1) Looking up information about the film (such as a synopsis, trailer, etc) and determining whether or not I'm interested in what I see/read

2) Seeing the film myself (if I'm interested in it)

3) Judging the film based on its content

So pre-released material has a determination of the quality of a film? Does this not show an obvious inherent bias towards a film?

Also, no one was talking about your personal evaluation of a film. We were all talking about a consensus view.

 

[Kanon]

1) Looking up information about the film (such as a synopsis, trailer, etc) and determining whether or not I'm interested in what I see/read

2) Seeing the film myself (if I'm interested in it)

3) Judging the film based on its content

Judging a film based on its content is a review. By your standards, that's no measure of quality

 

[Man in the Suit]

I pose the question, again, why you believe that studio execs would set this embargo if they were confident in the product? I'm genuinely fascinated to know.

Probably the same exec that had to go down to Baton Rouge and personally clean up Tranq's mess. CONFIDENCE!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I see that you two have dug in your heels. Daddario's beautiful eyes and boobs make everything watchable.

Welcome to the club. t:

 

[DigificWriter]

Judging a film based on its content is a review. By your standards, that's no measure of quality

I don't read reviews of something in order to determine its quality. I form my own judgments of something based on the thing itself, not on what someone thought about it.

 

[Darkraid]

Welcome to the club. t:

I'm guilty of watching San Andreas for Alexandra.

Sorry The Rock.

 

[Man in the Suit]

I hope The Hollywood Reporter has a followup to their Trank/Star Wars article exposing everything about this crazy production.

 

[Best]

If this film turned out bad, I'd expect Teller & Mara to do most of the talking. Maybe Kinberg, but then he'd be backtracking.