Game of Thrones - HBO part 2 - Part 6

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Ok, well the mods have already said in the past to stop it. If you want to talk about the books they want you to use the thread about the books.

I was only talking about the books in relation to how the show will translate them.

Others got into a discussion about events, character motivations, etc. that can really only apply only to the books at this point. I understand why that kind of thing should be moved to the book thread.

Mods, please correct me if I'm mistaken. (I'm not trying to be argumentative, or anything. I just think it makes sense to be able to discuss how the show has or will address things that happen in the books.)
 
I was only talking about the books in relation to how the show will translate them.

Others got into a discussion about events, character motivations, etc. that can really only apply only to the books at this point. I understand why that kind of thing should be moved to the book thread.

Mods, please correct me if I'm mistaken. (I'm not trying to be argumentative, or anything. I just think it makes sense to be able to discuss how the show has or will address things that happen in the books.)

I don't think that's fine to discuss here at all especially wanting to discuss how things that have happened in the book will eventually happen on the show. To me that's the definition of spoiler territory.

Honestly if you want to take up that debate just bring it to the book thread. Which imo should serve as the de-facto book-show spoiler thread.
 
Some have asked us quite nicely to stop discussing book spoilers. Is it really that hard?

I'm sorry about that, but I did put them in spoiler tags for that reason. Because they were spoilers. Also, I was discussing certain book spoilers and speculating on how they would be presented given the way the show has chosen to represent certain characters and aspects. So it was really just a way of opening up speculation about the show, which is why I wasn't talking about it in the book forum.
 
I don't think that's fine to discuss here at all especially wanting to discuss how things that have happened in the book will eventually happen on the show. To me that's the definition of spoiler territory.

Honestly if you want to take up that debate just bring it to the book thread. Which imo should serve as the de-facto book-show spoiler thread.

I don't really think it makes much sense to speculate on how the show will handle the portrayal of certain events in the book thread...since it's about the books.

I'm not trying to be snippy, but we put spoiler tags around the information for a reason.
 
Has anyone actually read the books the show is based on? If so how accurate have they been at adapting the novels?

So far, it's been very close. The first season, especially, is incredibly accurate.

The main differences are mainly due to the show having to simplify things. The books can afford to take the time to go really deep into the history and characters' backgrounds.

On the other hand, the books follow a pretty strict narrative point of view. If something doesn't happen around one of the POV characters, you only hear about it from other characters. The show is able to expand on or add some things that end up being pretty cool. The scene between Bronn and The Hound before Blackwater was one such instance.
 
So far, it's been very close. The first season, especially, is incredibly accurate.

The main differences are mainly due to the show having to simplify things. The books can afford to take the time to go really deep into the history and characters' backgrounds.

On the other hand, the books follow a pretty strict narrative point of view. If something doesn't happen around one of the POV characters, you only hear about it from other characters. The show is able to expand on or add some things that end up being pretty cool. The scene between Bronn and The Hound before Blackwater was one such instance.

Yep. This show is honestly one of the best adaptations I've ever seen. And to be completely honest, this is one of the few times I really hope they streamline some things. Once you get into books 4 and 5, I think a lot of material can be cut.

The surprising thing about this show is that often when they make changes, I like them even more then the original material. Not always, but that's happened a good number of times. There was an article released about a year ago on that subject, something like 10 changes that were better then the books kind of thing. It's a good read, though if you find it, it does contain some mild spoilers.
 
I don't really think it makes much sense to speculate on how the show will handle the portrayal of certain events in the book thread...since it's about the books.

I'm not trying to be snippy, but we put spoiler tags around the information for a reason.

Yes and that often kills debate for anyone else in this thread. Where you have two people debating the books and all you see are walls of blacked out posts.

Which is how it was for a lot of the last couple seasons. The thread was damn near un-readable at certain times. It makes it very hard for people who haven't read the books to engage in debate about the show.

I don't see the reason why the books even need to be brought up that much at this point? The walking dead thread doesn't seem to have this problem with respect to the comics. Not to mention the show like the WD show is very much it's own entity now and not a 1:1 with the books.

The separate book-tv discussions/non-book discussion threads have worked in other forums.
 
I don't think that's fine to discuss here at all especially wanting to discuss how things that have happened in the book will eventually happen on the show. To me that's the definition of spoiler territory.

I don't think I've mentioned anything that hasn't yet happened in the show without using spoiler tags. What's the point of having spoiler tags if not to use them to talk about spoilers in an otherwise relatively spoiler-free thread?

Honestly if you want to take up that debate just bring it to the book thread. Which imo should serve as the de-facto book-show spoiler thread.

The book thread is meant for discussing the books. Discussion about how the show will treat events from the book doesn't belong there.

Maybe there should be a different thread for people who have read the books to discuss the show, but there are also people who haven't read the books that don't mind spoilers. Here, they are able to be involved with the discussion, and are free to open the spoiler tags. In a thread just for readers, they won't necessarily be as able to jump into the conversation.
 
Yep. This show is honestly one of the best adaptations I've ever seen. And to be completely honest, this is one of the few times I really hope they streamline some things. Once you get into books 4 and 5, I think a lot of material can be cut.

The surprising thing about this show is that often when they make changes, I like them even more then the original material. Not always, but that's happened a good number of times. There was an article released about a year ago on that subject, something like 10 changes that were better then the books kind of thing. It's a good read, though if you find it, it does contain some mild spoilers.

I read the books after seeing the first two seasons. I was bummed when the book didn't have one of my favorite lines (Which was when Bronn wins his fight for Tyrion when he's at the Vale. Lysa say's something like, "You fight without honor." Bronn says, "No." and looks down at the knight he just killed and says, "He did.").
 
Yes and that often kills debate for anyone else in this thread. Where you have two people debating the books and all you see are walls of blacked out posts.

Which is how it was for a lot of the last couple seasons. The thread was damn near un-readable at certain times. It makes it very hard for people who haven't read the books to engage in debate about the show.

I don't see the reason why the books even need to be brought up that much at this point? The walking dead thread doesn't seem to have this problem with respect to the comics. Not to mention the show like the WD show is very much it's own entity now and not a 1:1 with the books.

The separate book-tv discussions/non-book discussion threads have worked in other forums.

How does it kill debate for anyone else? It's like it often is in the forums, a few people are debating/discussing a certain point or idea and others ignore it and respond to other posters about other subjects they're talking about. Again, I was discussing aspects of the book and how that will directly effect the show, because the show has made a subtle, yet important change in one respect and I wanted to talk about it.

And as someone who has read both TWD and A Song of Fire and Ice and who watches the respective TV shows, the comparison is not even remotely close. The Walking Dead has changed events and characters so much that you could only call it a loose adaptation. Characters are completely different or non existent, and plot points have been changed, completely erased, and entirely new plot points added.

Game of Thrones is honestly one of the most faithful adaptations I've ever seen. At times characters have conversations that are nearly verbatim. The biggest changes (which really aren't that big) have only occurred because it's obvious that the TV show just doesn't have the time to cover all the material the books have.

So while bringing up plot points from the books of TWD has become completely moot (since the show has completely veered off track from the comics storlyline), talking about major plot points in the Song of Fire and Ice series and speculating on how they will be handled is perfectly logical, because the show has shown to be nothing more then incredibly faithful to its source material.
 
I read the books after seeing the first two seasons. I was bummed when the book didn't have one of my favorite lines (Which was when Bronn wins his fight for Tyrion when he's at the Vale. Lysa say's something like, "You fight without honor." Bronn says, "No." and looks down at the knight he just killed and says, "He did.").

That's one of my favorite Bronn lines too. I also liked the show's treatment of Arya's imprisonment much better, because the scenes with her and Tywin were gold.
 
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Love that cover
 
Richard Madden would be an interesting Bond canidate in a few years :hehe:


Also....THE NEXT WALLANDER? :wow:
 
My mind can't understand how is this show's score so underrated? I mean the first season had some Oscar quality music, but yet not Emmy worthy? I listened to the nominated scores last year, and they were not in the same level as this series.

Why is it so underrated? ''When the Sun Rises In the West'' is a masterpiece.
 
Yeah the score has always been solid, 'Mother Of Dragons' always stuck with me besides the opening theme.

 
It seems Queen Cersei aka Lena Heady is broke.
Game Of Thrones star Lena Headey is flat broke.

The 39-year old star shared her financial situation with a court as part of her divorce proceedings with her estranged husband Peter Loughran.

Claiming that she has 'less than $5 in her bank account', Lena said that she is so poor, she and her two-year old son are relying on credit cards to pay for their daily living.
 
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Kinda find that hard to believe. She is also going to be in the upcoming Mortal Instruments movie which will likely be a trilogy.
 
Game of Thrones’ Dragon Creators Explain the Beasts’ Teenage Evolution

As seen in Sunday’s season-three premiere of Game of Thrones, Daenerys’s dragons aren’t so little or cute anymore — they’re more like a cross between a Komodo dragon and a Gremlin. And they’re growing fast. They’ll be prone to mood swings like most teenagers soon enough, according to Pixomondo’s VFX supervisor Sven Martin, who designed Dany’s fire-breathing babies for the show. Short of giving the three dragons acne, adolescence means big changes to the look of last season’s parrot-size creatures, and aging them up was largely a matter of capturing that mercurial teen angst. “The main idea for them this season was capturing the difference between how they look when they’re demure and when they’re threatening.” As babies, the dragons were able to dispose of the warlocks by setting them ablaze, but Martin said that was nothing compared to the terror they can now inspire. “We haven’t seen them really angry yet.”

The personalities of each of the three dragons will emerge more fully later in the season, but for now, Martin said to consider the black dragon, Drogon, the leader. “The other two are his wingmen.” Here’s a preview: A few episodes from now, Drogon will get a bit aggravated, and for that, Martin added features inspired by the well-documented reactions of “angry swans” and a famous movie beast. “One of the things that we played with that’s also new is frill and what it would look like when they’re mad. There are real lizards that have it. Or you may have seen it before in the first Jurassic Park, where the dinosaur is screaming at the guy in the car.”

Dany’s dragons were in happy and content mode in Sunday’s return, seen for the first time flying alongside her ship on its way to Astapor (and barbecuing their own mid-flight fish meal). They even look to Dany for some coddling, a behavior modeled after dogs. In fact, Martin said much of what makes up the dragons is inspired by real animals. Making them believable fliers, for example, was paramount to producers, and after more than a dozen different designs, the dragons were given a bat’s wingspan and the posture of an eagle mid-flight. “We wanted to keep it looking realistic, and of a realistic environment, which I think is the idea in Game of Thrones. It doesn’t look like a fantasy series, but of course it is one.”
http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/game-of-thrones-dragons-special-effects.html
 
Can anybody who read the book tell me what thing that attempted to assassinate dany at the end of Sundays episode was? Spoiler wrapped of course.
 
Reading over the article about how much dany's dragons have grown since last season what exactly is the time frame between last season and this?

For Jon it seems like a day or two but how long has it been for dany?
 
I meant the little girl who gave it to her, it that link answered the question so thank you.
 
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