Game of Thrones - HBO part 2 - Part 6

[Sawyer]

Bran's voice is throwing me...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

By the way, the Stark boys really have all the luck with the women. Ned, Robb, Jon, and now Bran.

Well done.

Bran's voice is throwing me...

The same happened to me tonight on Mad Men with Sally.

 

[Sawyer]

Does Brienne's voice seem different to anyone else? It sounds a bit more feminine than it did last season...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You're thinking of the wrong sansa scene. I'm talking about when sansa is getting dressed. That was not needed. And I didn't get any characterization I didn't already have in the scenes I mentioned. I want this extraneous stuff gone for the very reason you mentioned. Characterization. I don't want micro scenes or snippets scattered over 50 minutes because there are too many characters in one episode. It begins to feel schizophrenic. I want some breathing room. I want some moments to linger. I want proper characterization. Not the foot notes version tucked into 30 second scenes. I want some flow. Basically I want a better scripting than we are getting at times.

That was all one scene. He ask her to leave, and they transition to outside. I think it made the scene flow naturally, while also showing Shae. Keeps characters alive in the mind's eye, and helped not make the scene with Tyrion later feel out of no where.

I usually agree, and I thought season 2 for the most part was horrible at scripting, but I though tonight was wonderful in that regard. There were no 30 second scenes, not really. Even that Sansa scene was apart of a bigger one with the Queen of Thorns. The little moment with Jon is simply going about establishing the Wildings. We haven't seen him around them very much, and it will make the transition into whatever happens with them later if we continue to see him there.

Not every scene can be 8+ mins.

 

[Sawyer]

I, for one, quite liked Catelyn's Jon Snow speech, but the end part about everything bad that's happened since then being because she couldn't love him made me go "huh?" I'm guessing it's some sort of religious superstition, right?

 

[HankTheTurtle]

I, for one, quite liked Catelyn's Jon Snow speech, but the end part about everything bad that's happened since then being because she couldn't love him made me go "huh?" I'm guessing it's some sort of religious superstition, right?

I think it's more about keeping promises. She made a promise to the gods that she would change how she treated Jon, but her heart wouldn't allow her to keep that promise. She seems to think that breaking that promise has brought misfortune to her family.

 

[Superfreak]

I think it's more about keeping promises. She made a promise to the gods that she would change how she treated Jon, but her heart wouldn't allow her to keep that promise. She seems to think that breaking that promise has brought misfortune to her family.

I think it's more about her having a second 'grown and loyal' son. Would have provided the starks with another adult, who could have filled any voids in this part of the family's story. But with Jon up north, there was no one left to defend the homeland.

 

[smashmode]

By the way, the Stark boys really have all the luck with the women. Ned, Robb, Jon, and now Bran.

Well done.

Now all the Bran-Meera shippers can finally have their 'ship' without it being really weird considering Bran has finally hit puberty and Meera doesn't look too old.

 

[smashmode]

I think it's more about her having a second 'grown and loyal' son. Would have provided the starks with another adult, who could have filled any voids in this part of the family's story. But with Jon up north, there was no one left to defend the homeland.

Yeah, if she didn't send away Jon, He could have been lord of winterfell and protected Bran and Rickon while Robb is away fighting wars..although I am guessing Jon would have wanted to ride with Robb.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I liked Thoros' actor a lot more then I thought I would.

 

[danoyse]

That's honestly my favorite thing about this season thus far. It's so refreshing to see someone who stumps both Joffrey AND his mother, lol.

I thought she was great in the premiere, but she was absolutely cracking me up last night. She is playing him like a violin right now.

 

[Drizzle]

By the way, the Stark boys really have all the luck with the women. Ned, Robb, Jon, and now Bran.

Well done.

What do you mean?

 

[DACrowe]

I thought it was a great episode and much better than 3.1.

The introduction of the Queen of Thorns (Diana Rigg) is already one of my favorite moments in the show. The way she and Margaery just shrug after getting Sansa to spill the beans is HILARIOUS. Joffrey, you'd get out of King's Landing for a while.

Also, Arya is back and all is right with the world.

 

[DACrowe]

Bran's voice is throwing me...

That said, his voice really did throw me for a loop. Next year, he will be able to carry Hodor. Yikes.

Also, I now will forever think of Love, Actually when the name Jojen comes up.

 

[DACrowe]

lol at the Queen of Thorns putting Renly's fans in their place.

Great, great episode tonight. It had everything, and a bit Great new characters, witty, fun dialogue and the episode flowed beautifully.

Cat praying for Jon just didn't fit her character though.

Yep. Just as Tyrion did for Stannis in Season 2. And Melisandre has done since she commandeered her puppet last episode.

Just saying.

EDIT: I also have no problem with Cat praying for Jon. It is great character development for her and an intriguing new insight. I actually think the show's writers write Cat, Sansa and Cersei far better than GRRM who painted them in negative broad strokes (well Sansa less so after AGOT, but fans who will forgive Jaime of anything will never look back on that 12-year-old who made a mistake).

 

[DACrowe]

You're thinking of the wrong sansa scene. I'm talking about when sansa is getting dressed. That was not needed. And I didn't get any characterization I didn't already have in the scenes I mentioned. I want this extraneous stuff gone for the very reason you mentioned. Characterization. I don't want micro scenes or snippets scattered over 50 minutes because there are too many characters in one episode. It begins to feel schizophrenic. I want some breathing room. I want some moments to linger. I want proper characterization. Not the foot notes version tucked into 30 second scenes. I want some flow. Basically I want a better scripting than we are getting at times.

Disagree. This episode was far better than the season premiere because it took the time to develop characters. We did not need to see Joffrey getting dressed and talking to Cersei with the mother planting ideas of distrust into his head about Margaery. Marg could have simply walked into Joffrey's bedroom and we could gather that Joffrey, always the fairweather sociopath, was in a foul mood this day.

It could have begun with Loras's escort, but seeing Sansa's day-to-day life with Shae develops both a little and keeps the Littlefinger storyline in play. As they cut Dany, Stannis and (for the most part) Jon from this episode, it was a great time to spend more time on the King's Landing stuff which is usually painted in too many broad strokes. The fact that it took the time to develop the characters and not just the plot made the episode breathe a lot more.

 

[The Demon's Head]

Loved the episode.

BTW, Did anyone else recognize

Spoiler

Ramsay?

I bet he's going to free Theon just to mess with him for the fun of it.

 

[squeekness]

Loved the episode.

BTW, Did anyone else recognize

Spoiler

Ramsay?

I bet he's going to free Theon just to mess with him for the fun of it.

I had no idea who that kid was.

 

[smashmode]

I think someone already mentioned it, but I like how the actor that plays jojen is 7-8 years older than Bran, but Bran looks to be about the same age. Almost looks like same age of meera as well

 

[Christopher Nolan]

was there any nudity in this episode?

 

[chaseter]

Nope

 

[squeekness]

Can't have it every one you know. All you squealy fan boys will get bored with it.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

EDIT: I also have no problem with Cat praying for Jon. It is great character development for her and an intriguing new insight. I actually think the show's writers write Cat, Sansa and Cersei far better than GRRM who painted them in negative broad strokes (well Sansa less so after AGOT, but fans who will forgive Jaime of anything will never look back on that 12-year-old who made a mistake).

I liked this change, too. Cat in the book is a pretty vindictive ***** to Jon for no real reason. She's much kinder in the show and I like it. I can believe that she'd hate Jon so much that she would wish him to die. But I can also believe that she would have a change of heart (probably due to guilt) when she heard him sick and dying. As others have mentioned, she probably wishes that she had been more accepting of Jon because he wouldn't have betrayed the Starks like Theon did, he would have either rode south with Robb or protected Bran and Rickon in Winterfell.

Disagree. This episode was far better than the season premiere because it took the time to develop characters. We did not need to see Joffrey getting dressed and talking to Cersei with the mother planting ideas of distrust into his head about Margaery. Marg could have simply walked into Joffrey's bedroom and we could gather that Joffrey, always the fairweather sociopath, was in a foul mood this day.

I actually liked that scene because it helps to show how much control she's losing over Joffrey and how threatened she is by Margaery. Probably could have been shortened a little.

 

[Sawyer]

I liked this change, too. Cat in the book is a pretty vindictive ***** to Jon for no real reason. She's much kinder in the show and I like it. I can believe that she'd hate Jon so much that she would wish him to die. But I can also believe that she would have a change of heart (probably due to guilt) when she heard him sick and dying. As others have mentioned, she probably wishes that she had been more accepting of Jon because he wouldn't have betrayed the Starks like Theon did, he would have either rode south with Robb or protected Bran and Rickon in Winterfell.

Yep. That's why I love the scene in the second episode with Bran much more than the book counterpart. Instead of saying she wished it could've been him, she tells him to **** off (still not particularly nice, but better than the former, I think), but then when he goes to Bran and kisses him on the forehead, you could see the look in her eyes softens. In spite of her own feelings towards the boy, she knows he loves his siblings, and in times like these, that sort of loyalty can't be just written off.

 

[Kane52630]

Damn that cliffhanger!

Pretty good episode overall.