The Dark Knight general public....

The Villain seems to be.....The Iron Monger :dry:


What the hell is that?
 
Damn all the people who doubt Batman's power. Those who say Iron Man will rock harder than the bat. We'll see.

Long live those who think Iron Man is just a little pimple in Bruce Wayne's ass.
 
hrrrmm.. i don't think THAT- but i DO know that iron man will not outshine TDK.
 
The Villain seems to be.....The Iron Monger :dry:


What the hell is that?
Obadiah Stane

Early years

Obadiah Stane was a ruthless individual who studied his adversaries to find weaknesses that he could exploit. Ever since he was a child, Stane enjoyed chess, and handled his life with the same kind of methodical logic that he used in the game. In addition, he was a strong believer in using psychological manipulation to his advantage. For instance, in a childhood chess match against another boy whose skill at least equaled his own, he killed the boy's dog so that his mind wasn't on the game. He won easily, and he continued to use similar forms of manipulation through his life. As a child he saw his father, a degenerate gambler who at that time was on a "lucky streak", accidentally shoot himself in the head playing a game of "Russian Roulette." This event shaped Obadiah Stane for years to come.
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Hostile takeover

In adulthood, as a wealthy financier, Obadiah Stane turned his sights on acquiring Stark International, the industrial corporation owned by Tony Stark (Iron Man). Stane had his agents, the Chessmen, attack Stark Industries and assault Stark's confidant, James Rhodes. Stane also set up Indries Moomji as Stark's lover without Stark knowing that Moomji was actually the Chessmen's Queen. While all of this was occurring, Stane and his associates conspired to lock Stark International out of various business deals. Stark eventually learned that Stane was the mastermind behind these attacks, but was unable to confront him. The assaults on Stark, his business, and his friend pushed Stark to the edge, and when Stark was scorned by Stane and then spurned by Moomji, he catastrophically relapsed into alcoholism. With the help of S.H.I.E.L.D., Stane succeeded in buying out Stark International, which he then renamed to Stane International. Stark, having fallen off the wagon, relinquished his armor to Jim Rhodes and disappeared to be a homeless vagrant. Rhodes became the new Iron Man while ignoring Stane's demands to relinquish the armor.
Stane proceeded in manufacturing and supplying munitions and weapons to S.H.I.E.L.D. and others who could pay for them. But, when Tony Stark left, he left behind notes and information on the Iron Man armor. These notes were far from complete and without Stark's mind, they were hard to analyze, but Stane assigned a team of scientists to these notes and working from this, they created the Iron Monger armor which, according to Stane, was "far superior to Stark's Iron Man armor". He even thought of either selling them to the highest bidder or creating an army of them and using them to "take over any country he wanted". He said that this last idea was particularly interesting.

Retaliation

Stark, while a vagrant, befriended a pregnant homeless woman. She died in childbirth, but Stark promised to protect the child. This vow helped pull Stark out of his alcoholic state. When Stark recovered, he built a new suit of Iron Man armor, creating what was then the pinnacle of armor design, the Silver Centurion armor; he also founded a new, successful computer company, Circuits Maximus. Upon learning of his rival's recovery, Stane decided to attack Stark continually again. Stark confronted Stane on the property of Stane International and defeated Stane's agents, including the Chessmen, who had proven a match for his previous armor. Stane donned the Iron Monger armor and confronted Stark personally. The Iron Monger was more powerful than the previous Iron Man armor, but not the Silver Centurion model. Stane tried to defeat Stark by threatening to give his friends a horrible death, but Stark easily defeated the deathtraps. He then confronted Stane again, who was holding his last card: the baby of the woman who Stark had befriended while on skid row. Stane told Stark to remove his helmet or he would crush the homeless woman's baby between his palms. Stark, having detected interfering frequencies in his armor's systems through the battle, deduced that Stane wasn't experienced enough to pilot the armor without some help in the form of an external computer. He used his armor's pulse bolts to destroy the nearby building that contained that computer, causing Stane's Iron Monger armor to seize up and fall to the ground as Stark swooped in to catch the baby. Stane then removed his helmet and confronted Stark. When Stark told Stane that it was all over, Stane said that he had one thing left. He then raised his hand to the side of his head and using the repulsor beam, he fatally shot himself in the head, like his father before him. Stark was later able to obtain complete control over his own company, which reverted back to the name of Stark International.

Other Iron Mongers

After Stane's death, the Iron Monger was obtained by the United States government, who had one of the Guardsmen use it to test the combat skills of the U.S. Agent. Another Iron Monger armor was built by Simon Steele, who used it in battle against Dominic Fortune. A third was built by Stark's former college classmate Joey Cosmatos, who was working from Stane's plans. The Red Skull later had one of his own agents use a suit of Iron Monger armor in an assassination attempt against the Viper, but the suit's wearer was apparently killed by the Viper's men.

Powers and abilities

Since the Iron Monger armor was based on a modified version of Tony Stark's Iron Man design, the armor's abilities are very similar to the original red and gold armor, but with increased power. The repulsors were more powerful and the armor was also larger than the armor of Iron Man. It was presumably proportionally stronger as well. The armor was also partially computer controlled.
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Neat info there, I didn't read it all but while skimming it I noticed that it looks pretty neat.
 
As far as opinions go...my Sig as well as Avy says it all *****es. :woot:
 
Nope, no way in hell. Dark Knight is going to own the summer at either number 1 or 2 depending on Indy and definitely overshadow the other heroes (KNOWN, ICONIC + JOKER)... if that's what u were trying to say???
 
Nope, no way in hell. Dark Knight is going to own the summer at either number 1 or 2 depending on Indy and definitely overshadow the other heroes (KNOWN, ICONIC + JOKER)... if that's what u were trying to say???


If your referring to my previous post I was just saying I could care less about picking sides since I love both character/comics.:woot:

I do agree that TDK will get #1 or #2 next year. I think Iron Man will do fairly good but not huge...and that's coming from a big Iron Man fan. Next trailer they show for it should have some more flying action to get people in the seats. You said it best with the (KNOWN, ICONIC + JOKER).
 
Nope, no way in hell. Dark Knight is going to own the summer at either number 1 or 2 depending on Indy and definitely overshadow the other heroes (KNOWN, ICONIC + JOKER)... if that's what u were trying to say???
Are you freakin' nuts, Batman Begins had its ass handed to him by the unknown "300" film? How is it going to own the summer with even bigger named movies?
 
Movies never pick up with the general audience until a month or two before it's release.

Doesn't that piss you off? Here we fans have been worshiping the movie for about 2 years and people start getting into the movie after two weeks before the movie. Gosh, where have the people been? It'll like SpiderMan 3 all over again, but the movie will actually be awsome.:whatever:
 
And how does that make me a troll for thinking that? Thats my opinion. And why can't Iron Man make more than TDK at the Box Office? It has everything that a summer blockbuster movie has to draw in the masses which is cool vfx, great story(so far), good actors, family friendly character, cool villain as compared to TDK which has cool character (wouldn't call him family friendly), little to no vfx (most likely), well it does have good actors so thats a plus, dark story (murdering and psychopathic clown wreaking havoc with a machine gun). TDK has a smaller audience than Iron Man IMO in terms of these elements described.


Please kids will be drawn in why
The Batman on WB

movie goers will be drawn in cause cristain bale is becoming a big name actor

Now the Name Batman is far far bigger than Iron Man

now too special effects

we already know there are going to be a hell load of explosions car chases fight scenes hell expect a bond movie but instead of a suit its the batsuit

now batman vs iron man
the clear winner is batman for the fact
Bale is a big actor now batman begins was great
and not many people even know who the hell iron man is

Joker vs Iron Mongole??? scratch that ****
Joker vs Iron Man
the actors would pretty much equal each other except Heath is known by alot of people thanks to BBM
then the name Joker alone kicks the **** out of Iron Man
and then again Joker was known as one of the top movie villains
and is the best comic villain

now the only thing iron man has that tdk doesnt is humor

now i know your probably saying iron man's marketing is better but really what are you smoking if you think that for every movie site there is already stated TdK is 2008 most anticipated movie of the year

hell the only movie i see making more is indy 4 and no body even knows that is being made at all

now then TDK story seems like its going to draw in more people its action will draw in more people and if Heath lives up too his hype expect this movie too make a hell load and become a classic

Batman vs Joker thats all the general audience needs too know and they will sell out big ass numbers

hell just look at sm3 with venom
 
if wb would spend money on some superbowl joker vision type stuff, this movie would take off unbelievably with the general public... get them as hyped as us
 
Are you freakin' nuts, Batman Begins had its ass handed to him by the unknown "300" film? How is it going to own the summer with even bigger named movies?

Batman Begins came out in 2005, 300 came out in early 2007. I think you mean Star Wars III
 
if wb would spend money on some superbowl joker vision type stuff, this movie would take off unbelievably with the general public... get them as hyped as us

Superbowl is 5 months before the opening of the movie, they don't need a superbowl spot. It's hilarious, everytime a new comic movie comes out everyone asks where the advertising is 7-8 months before it's released. Every movie has the same plan, teasers and full trailers around 6-12 months before it's released, some bones thrown to hardcore fans, but not much until a month before the release then you start to see stuff on TV, billboards, posters on buses, internet ads, a trickle at first, then a tidal wave 2-3 weeks before the release. Don't worry about advertising, it'll happen, but not till June, May at the earliest.
 
The Dark Knight is going to be number one. Indy will NOT beat it. I've heard dozens of people talking about I Am Legend and someone always brings up TDK trailer, and everyone switches to how good it is going to be. TDK is going to be huge. Huge.
 
This thing seems to be stirring up some good buzz with non-comic fans. Most everyone I know who saw I Am Legend has mentioned the TDK trailer and how cool it looked.
 
I saw TDK mention on the news this morning here in Aus. It was only a brief snippet of the trailer and some thing like "Aussie star Heath Ledger -blah blah blah, his turn at the Joker in the highly anticipated sequel to Batman Begins."

So that was something.
 
yea its on the yahoo.com now too.
 
my friends all liked the trailer when we saw I Am Legend.

Honestly, I haven't heard anything bad from anyone in the 'real world'.
 
Its gonna be big but todays movies are a whole different bag to yesteryaer when B89 was released.
 
My sister is a good example of an average general public type of person. Who does not spend hours looking at spoilers or gives two hoots about seeing the next picture of Bale in a batsuit. So when I visited her yesterday to say hi she asked me first if I had seen the new TDK trailer....lol

I was shocked as she is not that up and up on these things. But she suprised me. But given that her partner may have put her on to it it may not be that much of a suprise. Still to think that little plain public girl can get that much info then I think the public know more than we think they do.
 
like I said before, it was the number one search on yahoo yesterday, which is probably why now they even have a headline about it. It leads you tot he trailer.
 

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