Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - - Part 11

[BH/HHH]

And that's the thing isn't it, THE WHOLE TEAM? The team isn't supposed to be whole until Superman joins them and it looks like he doesn't until the very end. And why do fans like me have to wait longer to see something that should have happened in the first entry?

You seem intent on doing this again and I know why you do it. So go ahead but I'm not discussing it with you.

 

[BH/HHH]

 

[BatSpider]

And that's the thing isn't it, THE WHOLE TEAM? The team isn't supposed to be whole until Superman joins them and it looks like he doesn't until the very end. And why do fans like me have to wait longer to see something that should have happened in the first entry?

His death is a huge plot point and he probably won't show up until the final battle and then subsequent sequels. If that's not good enough then just skip the movie. Stop spamming and get over it.

 

[batman44]

That was perfect. It teased Superman in the best way imo. And I LOVED the fact that they addressed Superman throughout the trailer. It's just what I wanted. Oh and I'm like 99.9% sure Supes ain't gonna be evil in this now, so happy!

 

[matt47]

Yeah, I still can't see anything.

Really? You can't see the red hue coming from the bottom right. Or the fact that Alfred said HOPE!

 

[Herolee10]

That was perfect. It teased Superman in the best way imo. And I LOVED the fact that they addressed Superman throughout the trailer. It's just what I wanted. Oh and I'm like 99.9% sure Supes ain't gonna be evil in this now, so happy!

Well I can honestly say though that I'm happy for you Matt. I know that you were concerned that they may do something stupid like reveal something such as Superman really being mind-controlled or coming back evil.

And I'm glad that you were satisfied with what they showed in the trailer. I really wish I could have that same mentality. It would make it a lot less stressful.

 

[Binker]

Up the saturation and you'll see it.

In other news: honestly, I'm underwhelmed. No Superman scene even though we KNOW since days ago, since last year's SDCC, even the end of BvS, that he's back. And no announcement for MOS2, while everyone else got announced.

 

[lc23]

 

[matt47]

Well I can honestly say though that I'm happy for you Matt. I know that you were concerned that they may do something stupid like reveal something such as Superman really being mind-controlled or coming back evil.

And I'm glad that you were satisfied with what they showed in the trailer. I really wish I could have that same mentality. It would make it a lot less stressful.

Yeah dude, it hurt when I saw you weren't thrilled. At least we didn't get your number 1

 

[BH/HHH]

Really? You can't see the red hue coming from the bottom right. Or the fact that Alfred ****ing said HOPE!

Sometimes people see what they wanna see.

 

[DeadPresident]

Well I can honestly say though that I'm happy for you Matt. I know that you were concerned that they may do something stupid like reveal something such as Superman really being mind-controlled or coming back evil.

And I'm glad that you were satisfied with what they showed in the trailer. I really wish I could have that same mentality. It would make it a lot less stressful.

You can have the same mentality, you just repeatedly choose not to

 

[matt47]

You can have the same mentality, you just repeatedly choose not to

Well, that's not completely true. You can't trick your brain into changing.

 

[DeadPresident]

Well, that's not completely true. You can't trick your brain into changing.

That's a matter of opinion. Me, personally? I try and come to terms with reality and work with it instead of trying to fight it and whining for like, three years.

 

[Herolee10]

Up the saturation and you'll see it.

In other news: honestly, I'm underwhelmed. No Superman scene even though we KNOW since days ago, since last year's SDCC, even the end of BvS, that he's back. And no announcement for MOS2, while everyone else got announced.

Honestly, I think it's a mixture of two things.

1. Warner Bros (for better or for worse) wants to keep everything Superman footage related a secret so that people can go in with fresh eyes.

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2. Henry didn't shoot that many things as Superman, thus his screen time is limited and they can't show much of his role without revealing that his role is really that small.

And yeah, while it sucked that there was no official update regarding his franchise...if there is to be any more films starring Superman, then it'll probably happen after JL is released. If it doesn't, then that's when people can start to really panic.lol

Yeah dude, it hurt when I saw you weren't thrilled. At least we didn't get your number 1

It is what it is. i honestly think I'm in need of some small break (a real one) because I just can't handle this. No matter how hard I try to spin it in some other way (quality over quantity), I just can't get over this. It's just unacceptable. Honestly, for me....coming back evil and having a small amount of screen time is practically the same thing.

Sometimes people see what they wanna see.

Or some of us don't have that great of a vision to see something that small without someone else pointing out.

 

[Herolee10]

That's a matter of opinion. Me, personally? I try and come to terms with reality and work with it instead of trying to fight it and whining for like, three years.

More like 2 since I didn't know that Superman died until like 1 month before BvS was released.

 

[DerekLake]

Just what I wanted to see out of this trailer. Very nice way to tease Superman. I hope that bit about crime rising all over the world suggests they will adapt something of the Reign of the Supermen arc. I especially liked the line: "He didn't just save people, he made them see best parts of themselves." Sure, it might be a retcon, but I love it. It's one MAJOR thing that was missing from BvS, and there's little way Superman could have done that without talking to ordinary people. I hope it indicates that Superman will be much more of a public hero.

I'm disappointed, of course, that there was no MOS 2 announcement, but confirmation of the other true superhero films (Flash, Shazam, GLC, and WW2) gives me hope that a MOS 2 may still happen.

 

[samsnee]

I think the trailer pretty much spoiled that Superman won't be involved with the film until the last act.

Which actually now explains why he's been promoted so little. He really does have a small screen time. Perhaps big by the impact that he makes, but so ****ing small by the actual time that Henry probably spent filming for the thing.

Probably a Hawkeye in Avengers thing. Meaning not much dialogue just action beats.

 

[The Guard]

You know what's great? Most of this trailer was about Superman.

 

[misslane38]

Guys, I wouldn't worry about a MOS2 sequel so much. Gotham City Sirens is happening, and David Ayer was talking about it just the other day, yet it wasn't on the slate. I mean, feel free to worry and to express that. I'm just saying, there could be another way to look at it.

Superman was the catalyst and the beginning of this shared universe, and his first phase is over. In fact, since he seems to be used to launch arcs that lead into team up films, I suspect that MOS2 and JL2 would go hand in hand in some way. It's time to establish everyone else like Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Batman in their first solo films with smaller films like Shazam! and SS2 filling in the gaps.

The director who developed Superman's trilogy is done for personal reasons, and a new creator to helm one and maybe future projects has to be found. If you see how long it's taken Flash to develop, and how much of a director-driven project Matt Reeves' trilogy is likely to be, it makes sense that there will be a pause in news and development for Superman films. Wonder Woman doesn't have similar demands, because it does have a director likely to be attached and a character who is used in more standalone fashion.

That said, I understand the disappointment. As a greedy Superman and Lois fan, I would have been thrilled to get more news. I get why we didn't, though, and I don't see it as some ominous sign. I'm also extremely excited and happy for the other projects coming up. Even the ones I'm not personally that invested in, I'm pleased about, because I know they will make others happy.

In the meantime, the new trailer's Superman content filled me with joy and anticipation. Gadot's comment, too, was encouraging. I'm content.

 

[misslane38]

I especially liked the line: "He didn't just save people, he made them see best parts of themselves." Sure, it might be a retcon, but I love it.

It's not a retcon. Bruce is clearly speaking about himself. Superman had that effect on him. And, frankly, it's not a retcon when one also considers Clark's impact on people like Pete Ross and Colonel Hardy. He saved them and made them better. Clark changed Lois, too. When he died, Superman not only saved people, he also made them see the heroes inside themselves. There's no other way of interpreting the "If you seek his monument..." message in the denouement of BvS.

 

[Herolee10]

Probably a Hawkeye in Avengers thing. Meaning not much dialogue just action beats.

You know what's great? Most of this trailer was about Superman.

Yeah, not the biggest fan of the off-screen character/plot point approach to his character.

Granted, I get and completely agree that he does have to miss a portion of the film to make his absence resonate with the story and the audiences.

But how is having him coming back at the last minute to help the team a good thing for him in the long run?

I mean in a ideal world, after he's resurrected, he would have regrouped with the rest of the team, get debriefed with everything that's been going on, and then join them for the final battle at the very beginning.

But it seems like he just gets revived, perhaps needs time to gather his strength, and meets with Alfred after the team have already departed to take on the final threat....showing up near the climax of the finale.

 

[DeadPresident]

You know what's great? Most of this trailer was about Superman.

Superman has always been the lynchpin of this universe.

 

[lc23]

I wonder if Superman is going to have more lines and be able to respond to people rather than standing there being talked at. Unlike, in the past films.

 

[BH/HHH]

I have a feeling in the trailer when Aquaman says "ALRIGHT" that's when Superman comes into the main fight.

 

[vantheman77]

I also have concerns that Superman won't show up until the third act and this trailer seems to be heading in that direction.

How much Superman is in the film is what concerns me.

I also hope that scene with Alfred is not a post-credit scene and I don't Superman reduced to that.