BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - Part 1

[slumcat]

New photos from Italy from UNCLE shoot!
Every ****ing photo Cavill takes has a spit curl. EXCEPT, EXCEPT the movie where he plays Superman. EVERY. EXCEPT.

 

[MrsKent26]

No even I got the feeling that Clark was slightly depressed or atleast muted and very withdrawn within himself.

He was appropriate to the situation. He was sad when something sad happened and happy when he could be. See my previous post for examples.


And I agree about the spit curl. While I thought it was extremely silly to force a curl on Routh, who had straight hair, Henry could easily have a spit curl since his hair is curly. So why not include the curl when it could be done so easily.

 

[Boy Scout]

Am I the only person who doesn't care about the curl?

 

[John-An]

 

[Krumm]

Am I the only person who doesn't care about the curl?

Nope.

 

[John-An]

Am I the only person who doesn't care about the curl?

No. I´m with you...

 

[MrsKent26]

I don't care that much either. I wasn't offended by the lack of it in MOS. I just think they might as well have it since Cavill has it most of the time anyways.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

Really? So he was brooding when he was telling Ma Kent how he found out about his family? And at the end when Lois welcomed him to the planet? And when he was telling her to "move back a little bit" and "it's not an S?" And he sure was broody when he told the general he was here to help, but they won't find out where he hangs his cape. Also when he smiled at the waitress in the bar...so much doom and gloom. And the gloomiest moment of all....when he was smiling like a madman as he flew and that whole "Kal is my name" thing we Jor-el. No joy there at all. And that look on his face when the fisherman pushed him out of the way and "saved" him on the boat. And that scene where he heals Lois's wound after that robot attacks her...so much moping....And it's not like his lack of friends is related to the fact that he travels around and saves people and stuff. How awful.

You didn't negate my point everything you stated doesn't change the tone and atmosphere the movie presented. Batman said nice coat to the homeless man he wasn't brooding, Batman said now I know what that feels like he wasn't brooding etc... Also the fact he smiles a few times doesn't change anything. Loner Clark Kent is not Clark Kent period, why introduce Pete and Lana if you won't use them.

 

[MrsKent26]

You're talking about tone of the movie, not the personality of clark. You said clark was always brooding and moping and that is not true. And what does Batman have to do with this? And the fact that he smiling and wasn't brooding/moping does change everything because you said he was, which is false. The movie showed a clark who went through hard times, but he was still able to smile and be happy when the situation called for it. You're confusing a serious, heavy tone in the movie with clark's personality. I gave examples for my point of view, you didn't. When was he ever just sitting and moping?

 

[the last son]

Why not just put the curl in there?

 

[John-An]

Can't wait to see new cast updates!!!

 

[LordofhouseEl]

You're talking about tone of the movie, not the personality of clark. You said clark was always brooding and moping and that is not true. And what does Batman have to do with this? And the fact that he smiling and wasn't brooding/moping does change everything because you said he was, which is false. The movie showed a clark who went through hard times, but he was still able to smile and be happy when the situation called for. You're confusing a serious, heavy tone in the movie with clark's personality.

Thats a lot of hard times then because he never seemed happy, you have stated instances in the film where he smiled but that doesn't give the overall impression that this guy is a happy guy. It's ridiculous for you to even try and insinuate that based on instances where he smiled or attempted humour. And I included Batman to highlight how flawed your example was because there is a brooding character in light hearted moments but yet still broody. Also I see you didn't refute the loner aspect because there is no refuting it. You can say that circumstances didn't allow for us to see a happy Clark and you would be right but that's the situation Goyer and Snyder out him in.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

which movie did you see man? broody in those moments? give me a break.. when he was flying I've seen joy, when he smiled to the waitress, with martha and finally the welcome to the planet smile was so great I've seen happiness on him.. He was confused in some moments how not be? he didn't knwo where he came from, those powers, being bullyied and not can't do anything, and even Superman chose the humans and always gives hope and smiles when the moment required them... so your point is

I think you quoted the wrong person.

 

[WoodyROM]

This should have been used in marketing

 

[Tra-El]

Am I the only person who doesn't care about the curl?

I have actually grown accustomed to the non-curl. I just think HC makes such a badass Superman that not all the classic elements are needed for him to pull it off. His look is downright perfect for the modern age.

 

[MrsKent26]

Thats a lot of hard times then because he never seemed happy, you have stated instances in the film where he smiled but that doesn't give the overall impression that this guy is a happy guy. It's ridiculous for you to even try and insinuate that based on instances where he smiled or attempted humour. And I included Batman to highlight how flawed your example was because there is a brooding character in light hearted moments but yet still broody. Also I see you didn't refute the loner aspect because there is no refuting it. You can say that circumstances didn't allow for us to see a happy Clark and you would be right but that's the situation Goyer and Snyder out him in.

What are these times he never seemed happy? During battle? When people died? Should he not be sad during these? You seem to have no reason to think what you think. I think maybe some people label him as a brooder because he's not a cheesy guy winking at the camera a saving cats. People aren't used to him being taken seriously at all.

And I agree he's a loner. However, I don't get the impression that he's a loner by choice. Whenever he got the chance to interact with anyone, he was friendly (or flirty, in Lois's case). I think he spent most of his life being excluded and having to hide many aspects of himself. So he was alone because he had to be. But as soon as someone accepted him, he was willing to interact with them.

 

[The Shield]

I wanna jump in and say I don't care about the curl either. And to me it just never looks right when they try. It looks forced. Henry is a walking talking Superman from the comics as is.

 

[MrsKent26]

which movie did you see man? broody in those moments? give me a break.. when he was flying I've seen joy, when he smiled to the waitress, with martha and finally the welcome to the planet smile was so great I've seen happiness on him.. He was confused in some moments how not be? he didn't knwo where he came from, those powers, being bullyied and not can't do anything, and even Superman chose the humans and always gives hope and smiles when the moment required them... so your point is

Either you quoted the wrong person or you misunderstood me. I was being sarcastic in that post (which was sorta rude, so sorry about that Houseofel). I was using those examples to show the many situations in which he was doing something other than brooding. We actually agree on this subject.

 

[John-An]

Either you quoted the wrong person or you misunderstood me. I was being sarcastic in that post (which was sorta rude, so sorry about that Houseofel). I was using those examples to show the many situations in which he was doing something other than brooding. We actually agree on this subject.

So sorry man I didn't notice, we're cool then t:

 

[John-An]

I think you quoted the wrong person.

So sorry, I fixed the post t:

 

[John-An]

What are these times he never seemed happy? During battle? When people died? Should he not be sad during these? You seem to have no reason to think what you think. I think maybe some people label him as a brooder because he's not a cheesy guy winking at the camera a saving cats. People aren't used to him being taken seriously at all.

And I agree he's a loner. However, I don't get the impression that he's a loner by choice. Whenever he got the chance to interact with anyone, he was friendly (or flirty, in Lois's case). I think he spent most of his life being excluded and having to hide many aspects of himself. So he was alone because he had to be. But as soon as someone accepted him, he was willing to interact with them.

completely agree with you t:

 

[Man.of.Tomorrow]

New photos from Italy from UNCLE shoot!
Every ****ing photo Cavill takes has a spit curl. EXCEPT, EXCEPT the movie where he plays Superman. EVERY. EXCEPT.

Haha, it is funny. I don't mind him not having a spit curl in the movie, but it is ironic that he does seem to have a natural one ALL THE TIME in real life - because seriously, who the hell has a spit curl in 2013??

Wading in on the brooding debate, I never thought he seemed especially brooding in the movie. More serious and reflective than other versions for sure, but he smiled plenty around people he liked and there were enough glimpses of that and his relaxed, friendly personality throughout to stop him seeming like another Batman type. I think maybe it seems more like that if you're comparing it to the Reeves boy scout Superman. Cos let's face it, ANYONE would seem brooding in comparison to that...

Although thinking about it, I think all the times Superman was smiley/happy/flirty/relaxed in MoS were when he was in the company of women?? Man, how prejudiced of him...

 

[Krumm]

Haha, it is funny. I don't mind him not having a spit curl in the movie, but it is ironic that he does seem to have a natural one ALL THE TIME in real life - because seriously, who the hell has a spit curl in 2013??

I do actually. It can't be helped.

 

[gohei_]

I do actually. It can't be helped.

It happens to me quite often as well actually. Once I let my hair get long enough.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Haha, it is funny. I don't mind him not having a spit curl in the movie, but it is ironic that he does seem to have a natural one ALL THE TIME in real life - because seriously, who the hell has a spit curl in 2013??

Wading in on the brooding debate, I never thought he seemed especially brooding in the movie. More serious and reflective than other versions for sure, but he smiled plenty around people he liked and there were enough glimpses of that and his relaxed, friendly personality throughout to stop him seeming like another Batman type. I think maybe it seems more like that if you're comparing it to the Reeves boy scout Superman. Cos let's face it, ANYONE would seem brooding in comparison to that...

Although thinking about it, I think all the times Superman was smiley/happy/flirty/relaxed in MoS were when he was in the company of women?? Man, how prejudiced of him...

I kind of think that a modern GR style Superman would be panned now. THEY PUT SUPERMAN IN A GRITTY CRIME DRAMA WHERE HE ENJOYS BEATING UP CRIMINALS!!!! WAAA! t:t:

But yeah, the argument that MOS's Superman is an angry, brooding character I think is one of the weaker complaints. I personally believe the people who think that Superman should be smiley all the time would look down on ANY more serious approaches to the character, including those in STAS and the comics.

Now what I think is a legit complaint is that Clark is placed in circumstances where it was difficult to be happy. The world in danger-it would be WRONG for Superman to be all cheerful. Clark friendless and alone-that doesn't seem optimized for happiness.

The military threatening him and the world mistrusting him-not optimized for happiness, though this allows him to respond with authority and assertiveness-and some genuine cheer.

The sequel should give him more time with other characters in a non-tense manner. The character bits with Ma Kent/Lois/Swanwick are good. I hope we see more of that.

I hope the sequel isn't as serious as MOS. It doesn't have to be jokey like a lot of Marvel's films (though I wouldn't mind a bit of that). It just has to have a bit of fun behind it.